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    so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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      so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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      Just remember how long it took to put it on. The exercise is great. What about your diet? Get a scale. It's a great way to measure progress. Marc My website
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        so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        Jim Crafton wrote: I'd like to drop down to 165 Ok, i'm no doctor, but that sounds a bit light for 6ft... I weigh that, and i'm 5'9"! I'd think more about replacing fat with muscle, if i were you - and that may actually increase your overall weight! :)

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          Just remember how long it took to put it on. The exercise is great. What about your diet? Get a scale. It's a great way to measure progress. Marc My website
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          Marc Clifton wrote: Just remember how long it took to put it on Insanely fast. It only started after I started working a CSC in 1997 as a consultant and began eating out all the time, and stopped exercising for the most part. We have a digital scale, so I am getting (hopefully) accurate measurements there. Diet is pretty good, though I have since found that I have high cholesterol, no matter what I eat and it would appear to be hereditary. So I have to take lipitor, which is really annoying since I've never taken any medication, with the exception of the occaisional tylenol for a headache (maybe once or twice a year). Luckily I don't seem to be having any adverse reactions to it and it's dropped my cholesterol to 160 (from ~230). Haven't eaten red meat in almost 3-4 years. Once in a while we eat pork, but mostly chicken or turkey if we eat meat, and fish reasonably often. I used to have maybe 2 eggs a week, but have cut that back to maybe 2 a month, which also SUCKS because I love a bacon egg and cheese sandwich!!! Big salads for dinner. Smaller lunch portions, usually a sandwich my wife makes or some left over. Try to eat more whole wheat bread vs white (we don't touch wonder bread style at all) but the fresh baked ciabatta, and other baguette like bread is soooo good. Cut back on milk - about all I have now is in a bowl of cereal. My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, especially in the winter (I hate it, it's so boring tasting...). If I eat lunch out, I only get subway, and only allow myself a 6 inch turkey breast on wheat (that sounds unbeleivably kinky to type out...) with all the veggies. Sugar is mostly gone, I try avoid potato chips as much as possible, sometimes I get cashews instead. I rarely get coffee, but if I do I use honey instead of sugar. I do use half-and-half though. Fast food is gone (pulling of hair), pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth), ice cream is almost completely gone (arghhh!), though we did splurge and bought a pint for the first time in about 6 months. I drink a fair amount or either water or orange juice at work. I try and eat fruit, but probably not enough - I have a really poor sense of smell and I suspect part of the reason I don't like fruit is because it really doesn't taste like anything to me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User

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            so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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            Fat loss is 90% diet and 10% exercise. I have always been an avid fan of the Men’s Health magazine, and recently the editor came out with a book called "The Abs Diet" that I would recommend. It's full of meal ideas and exercise programs to help people cut fat. Weight training is important to ensure that your body is burning fat for a fuel source instead of muscle. Every pound of muscle you gain equates to about 50 more calories burned per day in a resting state, so hit the gym and build some muscle. Make sure you drink plenty of water. I try to drink about a gallon of water per day, especially on days that I go to the gym. If you hydrate your body then it does not have a tendency to retain water. So drinking more water can actually allow your body to get rid of excess water that most people carry around. The same is true for fats. I've read that you should make sure that calories from fat make up approximately 20%-30% of your daily calorie intake. They should be good fats though, not grease from potato chips. Feeding your body enough fat every day will allow it to release some of its stored fat. Finally make sure that you get enough protein. If you are lifting or running then you should eat a gram of protein per pound of body weight every day. Protein is the basis for muscle synthesis. It is also difficult for the body to break down so your body will have to use more energy to break down protein thus burning more calories. I started working out a couple of months ago and although my weight hasn't changed much at all (about 175lbs give or take a pound) my body fat percentage has gone from 22% when I started to 12% as of this morning). I was very fit in high school, but all the beer I drank in college wreaked havoc on my midsection. I still have a ways to go before I get back to the shape I was in before college, but the results have been motivation enough to keep going. I really haven't changed that much about my daily routine. I eat 5-6 times a day instead of 1-2. I usually pass on french fries and get vegetables instead. I work out 5 days a week. I run 2-3 times a week. I've been very pleasantly surprised with how fast the results started to show. I hope that you have a similar experience.

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              so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                Jim Crafton wrote: I'd like to drop down to 165 Ok, i'm no doctor, but that sounds a bit light for 6ft... I weigh that, and i'm 5'9"! I'd think more about replacing fat with muscle, if i were you - and that may actually increase your overall weight! :)

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                That's the ideal goal. I'd like to get back into as good a running condition as I can - I am hopeful that I can get back to my old condition of being able to hop out the door and run 6 minute miles at will. I have a runners/cyclists build, and I do NOT bulk up no matter what I do - I've tried weight lifting, etc, and it simply makes no difference. So, for my frame, I'd rather be lean than carry the spare tire around (it looks ridiculous on me because I don't have the bulk to kind of offset it elsewhere). My first 3-4 years of college were spent hovering around 140. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  Marc Clifton wrote: Just remember how long it took to put it on Insanely fast. It only started after I started working a CSC in 1997 as a consultant and began eating out all the time, and stopped exercising for the most part. We have a digital scale, so I am getting (hopefully) accurate measurements there. Diet is pretty good, though I have since found that I have high cholesterol, no matter what I eat and it would appear to be hereditary. So I have to take lipitor, which is really annoying since I've never taken any medication, with the exception of the occaisional tylenol for a headache (maybe once or twice a year). Luckily I don't seem to be having any adverse reactions to it and it's dropped my cholesterol to 160 (from ~230). Haven't eaten red meat in almost 3-4 years. Once in a while we eat pork, but mostly chicken or turkey if we eat meat, and fish reasonably often. I used to have maybe 2 eggs a week, but have cut that back to maybe 2 a month, which also SUCKS because I love a bacon egg and cheese sandwich!!! Big salads for dinner. Smaller lunch portions, usually a sandwich my wife makes or some left over. Try to eat more whole wheat bread vs white (we don't touch wonder bread style at all) but the fresh baked ciabatta, and other baguette like bread is soooo good. Cut back on milk - about all I have now is in a bowl of cereal. My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, especially in the winter (I hate it, it's so boring tasting...). If I eat lunch out, I only get subway, and only allow myself a 6 inch turkey breast on wheat (that sounds unbeleivably kinky to type out...) with all the veggies. Sugar is mostly gone, I try avoid potato chips as much as possible, sometimes I get cashews instead. I rarely get coffee, but if I do I use honey instead of sugar. I do use half-and-half though. Fast food is gone (pulling of hair), pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth), ice cream is almost completely gone (arghhh!), though we did splurge and bought a pint for the first time in about 6 months. I drink a fair amount or either water or orange juice at work. I try and eat fruit, but probably not enough - I have a really poor sense of smell and I suspect part of the reason I don't like fruit is because it really doesn't taste like anything to me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User

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                  Try counting the calories you are eating for a few days. It sounds like you may not be eating enough. You should never try to cut more than 500 or so calories off of what your bodies maintenance calorie requirement is. Cutting too many calories will almost ensure that our body burns healthy muscle instead of fat for an energy source. Our bodies were built with preservation as the number one goal, so if it notices that you have severely limited the number of calories you are feeding it your body will do everything it can to ensure that your fat stores are the last to go. This leads to a decrease in lean muscle mass which in turn leads to a lower metabolism which has the nasty habit of causing you to actually gain weight once you start eating normally again.

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                    That's the ideal goal. I'd like to get back into as good a running condition as I can - I am hopeful that I can get back to my old condition of being able to hop out the door and run 6 minute miles at will. I have a runners/cyclists build, and I do NOT bulk up no matter what I do - I've tried weight lifting, etc, and it simply makes no difference. So, for my frame, I'd rather be lean than carry the spare tire around (it looks ridiculous on me because I don't have the bulk to kind of offset it elsewhere). My first 3-4 years of college were spent hovering around 140. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                    Ah, yeah... i can understand that. Could probably stand to lose 5-10lbs myself... but after years of being the scrawny kid who couldn't put on an ounce, it'd be a shame not to enjoy it now. :)

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                      Marc Clifton wrote: Just remember how long it took to put it on Insanely fast. It only started after I started working a CSC in 1997 as a consultant and began eating out all the time, and stopped exercising for the most part. We have a digital scale, so I am getting (hopefully) accurate measurements there. Diet is pretty good, though I have since found that I have high cholesterol, no matter what I eat and it would appear to be hereditary. So I have to take lipitor, which is really annoying since I've never taken any medication, with the exception of the occaisional tylenol for a headache (maybe once or twice a year). Luckily I don't seem to be having any adverse reactions to it and it's dropped my cholesterol to 160 (from ~230). Haven't eaten red meat in almost 3-4 years. Once in a while we eat pork, but mostly chicken or turkey if we eat meat, and fish reasonably often. I used to have maybe 2 eggs a week, but have cut that back to maybe 2 a month, which also SUCKS because I love a bacon egg and cheese sandwich!!! Big salads for dinner. Smaller lunch portions, usually a sandwich my wife makes or some left over. Try to eat more whole wheat bread vs white (we don't touch wonder bread style at all) but the fresh baked ciabatta, and other baguette like bread is soooo good. Cut back on milk - about all I have now is in a bowl of cereal. My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, especially in the winter (I hate it, it's so boring tasting...). If I eat lunch out, I only get subway, and only allow myself a 6 inch turkey breast on wheat (that sounds unbeleivably kinky to type out...) with all the veggies. Sugar is mostly gone, I try avoid potato chips as much as possible, sometimes I get cashews instead. I rarely get coffee, but if I do I use honey instead of sugar. I do use half-and-half though. Fast food is gone (pulling of hair), pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth), ice cream is almost completely gone (arghhh!), though we did splurge and bought a pint for the first time in about 6 months. I drink a fair amount or either water or orange juice at work. I try and eat fruit, but probably not enough - I have a really poor sense of smell and I suspect part of the reason I don't like fruit is because it really doesn't taste like anything to me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User

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                      Jim Crafton wrote: My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, I don't know if you've tried it, but I found adding nuts helps it out alot. Pecans are my favorite right now. Jim Crafton wrote: pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth) Oh, man after spending a couple of years experimenting with homemade pizza I can't go back, and it is so easy to mix some flour, water, salt, yeast and oil together, sprinkle on some parmasan (sp) cheese and some fresh black pepper. I'm about 6' as well. I made it up to 205 and started changing my diet and excercise levels about a year ago. I'm down to 189 right now, my goal is somewhere around 175-180. I've been eating more fresh food, less processed and making sure I rarely eat until I'm completely full. I bike at least twice a week, and rotate tennis, swimming and hiking in the mix to keep from getting bored. My biggest change was moving to a neighborhood where I can start a ride easily from my house. Having to drive somewhere to excercise made it too much of a hassle. Good luck, it sounds like you've made a lot of progress already.


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                        Try counting the calories you are eating for a few days. It sounds like you may not be eating enough. You should never try to cut more than 500 or so calories off of what your bodies maintenance calorie requirement is. Cutting too many calories will almost ensure that our body burns healthy muscle instead of fat for an energy source. Our bodies were built with preservation as the number one goal, so if it notices that you have severely limited the number of calories you are feeding it your body will do everything it can to ensure that your fat stores are the last to go. This leads to a decrease in lean muscle mass which in turn leads to a lower metabolism which has the nasty habit of causing you to actually gain weight once you start eating normally again.

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                        is there a particular way to guess at this? What's the right calorie count? Is it ~2500? ~2000? ~1500? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                          is there a particular way to guess at this? What's the right calorie count? Is it ~2500? ~2000? ~1500? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                          There are calculators all over the place on the web. Most of them only take into account your height/weight/age, but this one seems to look at your daily activities as well. I just found it with a google search, I'm sure there are better ones out there. http://www.diyglobalsolutions.com/bmr\_bmi.htm

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                            Jim Crafton wrote: My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, I don't know if you've tried it, but I found adding nuts helps it out alot. Pecans are my favorite right now. Jim Crafton wrote: pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth) Oh, man after spending a couple of years experimenting with homemade pizza I can't go back, and it is so easy to mix some flour, water, salt, yeast and oil together, sprinkle on some parmasan (sp) cheese and some fresh black pepper. I'm about 6' as well. I made it up to 205 and started changing my diet and excercise levels about a year ago. I'm down to 189 right now, my goal is somewhere around 175-180. I've been eating more fresh food, less processed and making sure I rarely eat until I'm completely full. I bike at least twice a week, and rotate tennis, swimming and hiking in the mix to keep from getting bored. My biggest change was moving to a neighborhood where I can start a ride easily from my house. Having to drive somewhere to excercise made it too much of a hassle. Good luck, it sounds like you've made a lot of progress already.


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                            andy brummer wrote: Good luck, it sounds like you've made a lot of progress already. Sigh, actually it seems as if I've hardly made any - at least any that would be noticeable to an outsider. Maybe in another 4-5 weeks it will be better. One thing I do notice is that I do feel a bit more limber. But I still want the damn spare tire off! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                              There are calculators all over the place on the web. Most of them only take into account your height/weight/age, but this one seems to look at your daily activities as well. I just found it with a google search, I'm sure there are better ones out there. http://www.diyglobalsolutions.com/bmr\_bmi.htm

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                              Weird! I tried your link and for the age/weight/height I got 1902 calories a day. For the one where you estimate your activity I listed about 12 hours a day of light activity (Reading, Watching TV, Driving, Sitting) due to all the programming I do, and 40 minutes of walking (it takes me about 12-15 each way to get to the subway by our apartment, and then another 5-10 each way from subway to work). This resulted in 3010 calories. Add in about 30 minutes of calisthenics and running and you get 3256 calories! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                There are calculators all over the place on the web. Most of them only take into account your height/weight/age, but this one seems to look at your daily activities as well. I just found it with a google search, I'm sure there are better ones out there. http://www.diyglobalsolutions.com/bmr\_bmi.htm

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                                One other thing: the Body Mass Index calculator says at 5'11" and 185 I have a BMI or 26 which is "prone to health risks"* At 6'0" I have a BMI of 25 which is "desireable"* My actual height is something like 5' 11 3/4" so which is it? A difference of a single inch switches you from "prone to health risks" to "desireable"? Sounds nutty. *According to the Panel on Energy, Obesity, and Body Weight Standards published by American Journal of Clinical Nutrition. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                  so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                  I'm not an expert on the subject, but a couple of summers ago I realized my 180lb high-school physique had turned into a 'I've been married for 8 years' 235lb disaster. I did exactly what you're doing. Started running again (did a lot of that in my younger years) and doing the situps / pushups / etc. I started this in February. Without changing hardly anything in my diet, I dropped 45 pounds by June 16th. The reason I remember the day, is that I had set a goal to get to 185 by the middle of the summer. I missed my goal by 5 lbs, but I cannot complain. The great thing about running, is that (at least for me, anyway) it does 2 things: 1. It gets very addictive, as you start to get the 'runners high.' This is good, because when you run and it feels good, you'll run more. 2. Running has a built-in diet control. As you get more and more in shape, your body will complain if you don't give it healthy food. In summary -- it's possible to drop the weight quickly. I speak from experience. Interestingly enough, in the past 2 years I've put on an addition 10 pounds. For some reason, that just won't come off!

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                                    andy brummer wrote: Good luck, it sounds like you've made a lot of progress already. Sigh, actually it seems as if I've hardly made any - at least any that would be noticeable to an outsider. Maybe in another 4-5 weeks it will be better. One thing I do notice is that I do feel a bit more limber. But I still want the damn spare tire off! :) ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                    Jim Crafton wrote: One thing I do notice is that I do feel a bit more limber. I'm sure I'm not doing things optimally as far as weight loss and fat ratios goes, but I feel better then I ever have. I said that just after I started, and I feel better even still. Jim Crafton wrote: But I still want the damn spare tire off! I still have mine, but I can tell that it is shrinking.


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                                      Marc Clifton wrote: Just remember how long it took to put it on Insanely fast. It only started after I started working a CSC in 1997 as a consultant and began eating out all the time, and stopped exercising for the most part. We have a digital scale, so I am getting (hopefully) accurate measurements there. Diet is pretty good, though I have since found that I have high cholesterol, no matter what I eat and it would appear to be hereditary. So I have to take lipitor, which is really annoying since I've never taken any medication, with the exception of the occaisional tylenol for a headache (maybe once or twice a year). Luckily I don't seem to be having any adverse reactions to it and it's dropped my cholesterol to 160 (from ~230). Haven't eaten red meat in almost 3-4 years. Once in a while we eat pork, but mostly chicken or turkey if we eat meat, and fish reasonably often. I used to have maybe 2 eggs a week, but have cut that back to maybe 2 a month, which also SUCKS because I love a bacon egg and cheese sandwich!!! Big salads for dinner. Smaller lunch portions, usually a sandwich my wife makes or some left over. Try to eat more whole wheat bread vs white (we don't touch wonder bread style at all) but the fresh baked ciabatta, and other baguette like bread is soooo good. Cut back on milk - about all I have now is in a bowl of cereal. My wife makes me eat oatmeal a lot in the morning, especially in the winter (I hate it, it's so boring tasting...). If I eat lunch out, I only get subway, and only allow myself a 6 inch turkey breast on wheat (that sounds unbeleivably kinky to type out...) with all the veggies. Sugar is mostly gone, I try avoid potato chips as much as possible, sometimes I get cashews instead. I rarely get coffee, but if I do I use honey instead of sugar. I do use half-and-half though. Fast food is gone (pulling of hair), pizza (unless it's homemade) is gone (weeping, gnashing of teeth), ice cream is almost completely gone (arghhh!), though we did splurge and bought a pint for the first time in about 6 months. I drink a fair amount or either water or orange juice at work. I try and eat fruit, but probably not enough - I have a really poor sense of smell and I suspect part of the reason I don't like fruit is because it really doesn't taste like anything to me. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User

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                                      If you replace your fat with muscle, you will see that your clothes don't fit as well, but your weight might not decrease entirely - dont depend upon weight alone as a measure of your progress. Be sure to go somewhere and get a fat analysis, since you might not see drastic weight loss, but you should be seeing an overall improvement in physique. If you replace fat with muscle, I think it was one pound of muscle will burn 50 calories per hour (maybe it was per day :~ ) in a quiescent state. So you can lose even more calories as you gain muscle mass. I had high triglycerides, cholesterol, and blood clucose - because of transaturated fats in my diet. I countered with multi-vitamin, niacin (not niacinamide - got to read the label), B-Complex, flax seed oil pills, and occasional doses of cinnamon on various food items. Cholesterol also converts to Vitamin D if you get some sunshine and testosterone if you are exercising. Walking will take off the tummy fat. Situps will mostly burn calories and give you a fine set of abdomen muscles you probably won't see for awhile :(( This is working for me. It has been almost 9 months now, and I am still a work in progress :rolleyes:

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                                        If you replace your fat with muscle, you will see that your clothes don't fit as well, but your weight might not decrease entirely - dont depend upon weight alone as a measure of your progress. Be sure to go somewhere and get a fat analysis, since you might not see drastic weight loss, but you should be seeing an overall improvement in physique. If you replace fat with muscle, I think it was one pound of muscle will burn 50 calories per hour (maybe it was per day :~ ) in a quiescent state. So you can lose even more calories as you gain muscle mass. I had high triglycerides, cholesterol, and blood clucose - because of transaturated fats in my diet. I countered with multi-vitamin, niacin (not niacinamide - got to read the label), B-Complex, flax seed oil pills, and occasional doses of cinnamon on various food items. Cholesterol also converts to Vitamin D if you get some sunshine and testosterone if you are exercising. Walking will take off the tummy fat. Situps will mostly burn calories and give you a fine set of abdomen muscles you probably won't see for awhile :(( This is working for me. It has been almost 9 months now, and I am still a work in progress :rolleyes:

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                                        Blake Miller wrote: testosterone if you are exercising. God that's the last thing I need more of. I'm basically a walking hormone as it is. :rolleyes: If that happens I'll have to start wearing blinders on the subway, especially in the summer.:(( ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                          so this spring I finally got fed up seeing the 20 lb tire around my gut and decided to do something about it. I started running 2-3 times a week, and walking an addition 3 miles on the off days. Our spring was pretty cold this year in NYC so this was always that effective. Recently (the last 3 weeks) I have switched to running 4-5 times a week. This plus doing 15 X 8 sets of situps, plus an assortment of stretches and other situp like exercises for about 20 minutes after which I run. I am up to ~2 miles of running. So my question is: How long till I see some results? The running is slowing getting easier, though it's still a PITA. At best I'd say I've lost 6-7 lbs. I currently weigh in at 185 and I'm 6 feet tall. I'd like to drop down to 165. I'd like to get rid of the old gut too. Is there a better way to do this than running and situps? I am guessing it's going to take me at least all summer to accomplish this and take a fair amount of discipline to keep it off during the winter. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                                          1. Absolutely adjust your diet, as the others said. (e.g. carbohydrates after exercise reduce fat after-burn, zero-fat intake is bad because your body changes strategy and clings on to all the fat it still has, and many more funny stuff that is more or less true) 2. when exercising, it might happen that you put on some muscles, which - for the same size - are usually heavier than fat. 3. The human body is, basically, a water pump with a few-pound reservoir. Without a very regular day, weighting yourself at the same time (recommended early morning), and some averaging over the last few days you are just in for self-frustration. Keep us updated! Don't give up!


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