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  • R Roger Wright

    Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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    Guess you need (state sponsored) Canadian healthcare, eh?:laugh: But I wish you a good night, anyway. Rui A. Rebelo Caminante no hay camino. El camino se hace nel caminar. Frederico Garcia-Lorca

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    • R Roger Wright

      Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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      Luis Alonso Ramos
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      Roger Wright wrote: I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home Where are you located? I live in Chihuahua, which is about 200 miles directly south of El Paso, TX. BTW, here in Mexico there are many antibiotics that also require a doctor to order them to you. -- LuisR


      Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

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        Guess you need (state sponsored) Canadian healthcare, eh?:laugh: But I wish you a good night, anyway. Rui A. Rebelo Caminante no hay camino. El camino se hace nel caminar. Frederico Garcia-Lorca

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        Roger Wright
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        Thanks for the good thoughts, Rui.:-D I'm thinking that, if I can get enough beer in me before I pass out I may make it through the night without waking the neighbors with my screaming... I'm working on it now.:) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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          Guess you need (state sponsored) Canadian healthcare, eh?:laugh: But I wish you a good night, anyway. Rui A. Rebelo Caminante no hay camino. El camino se hace nel caminar. Frederico Garcia-Lorca

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          Tim Smith
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          Yeah, in Canada you wait for the doctor who tells you that it could be this, but you need to go get a lab work that takes 5 days and then you have to go back to the doctor. Yeah... Canadian health care. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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            Roger Wright wrote: I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home Where are you located? I live in Chihuahua, which is about 200 miles directly south of El Paso, TX. BTW, here in Mexico there are many antibiotics that also require a doctor to order them to you. -- LuisR


            Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

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            Roger Wright
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            I'm about two days drive away, in northern Arizona. I've heard that Chihuahua is a beautiful place, and I'm looking forward to visiting it one day. But I won't do so in pain - I want to spend some quality time getting to know the people and the town. And meeting you, of course.:-D Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: there are many antibiotics that also require a doctor to order them to you. Do you know where I can find a list? It would be dreadful to drive all the way down there with a shopping list only to find that they're not allowed to sell my selections to me. I think it's criminal for a government to block a citizen from making a purchase because there might be some risk involved. Life is full of risks - where does the government get the right to decide which risks I'm allowed to take? For that matter, in our Constitution, all matters pertaining to health are specifically reserved to the States, and the federal government is forbidden to interfere. Where did we go wrong? Thanks for the info, Luis!:-D "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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            • R Roger Wright

              I'm about two days drive away, in northern Arizona. I've heard that Chihuahua is a beautiful place, and I'm looking forward to visiting it one day. But I won't do so in pain - I want to spend some quality time getting to know the people and the town. And meeting you, of course.:-D Luis Alonso Ramos wrote: there are many antibiotics that also require a doctor to order them to you. Do you know where I can find a list? It would be dreadful to drive all the way down there with a shopping list only to find that they're not allowed to sell my selections to me. I think it's criminal for a government to block a citizen from making a purchase because there might be some risk involved. Life is full of risks - where does the government get the right to decide which risks I'm allowed to take? For that matter, in our Constitution, all matters pertaining to health are specifically reserved to the States, and the federal government is forbidden to interfere. Where did we go wrong? Thanks for the info, Luis!:-D "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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              Luis Alonso Ramos
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              Roger Wright wrote: I've heard that Chihuahua is a beautiful place Chihuahua, the city, is a nice place, but there's not much really (I mean, it's a big city, almost a million people, but not much to see here - maybe because I live here). The really nice part of Chihuauha, the state, is in the Sierra Tarahumara (sierra means mmm a big forest with mountains maybe??) There we have the Copper Canyon, some big waterfalls, Divisadero and many nice things to see. And let's just add that the last time I was there I was about 7! Roger Wright wrote: meeting you, of course. Sure, when you come down here, give me a call, and I'll be glad to go drink a :beer: with you (I believe you kind of like them :)) -- LuisR


              Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

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                Roger Wright wrote: I've heard that Chihuahua is a beautiful place Chihuahua, the city, is a nice place, but there's not much really (I mean, it's a big city, almost a million people, but not much to see here - maybe because I live here). The really nice part of Chihuauha, the state, is in the Sierra Tarahumara (sierra means mmm a big forest with mountains maybe??) There we have the Copper Canyon, some big waterfalls, Divisadero and many nice things to see. And let's just add that the last time I was there I was about 7! Roger Wright wrote: meeting you, of course. Sure, when you come down here, give me a call, and I'll be glad to go drink a :beer: with you (I believe you kind of like them :)) -- LuisR


                Luis Alonso Ramos Intelectix - Chihuahua, Mexico Not much here: My CP Blog!

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                Roger Wright
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                I'm looking forward to it, Luis, though given my current financial state, it may be a couple of years. The Tarahumara sounds wonderful to me - I came here to this godforsaken desert hellhole from the mountains of the Peoples' Republic of California. I miss tall pines, bears in the trash cans, racoons on the porch, and various critters that make every day a challenge. Most of all, I miss seasons. We only have two here - Christmas and Summer. It sucks. I'll see you as soon as I can arrange it - thanks for the invitation!:-D "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                • R Roger Wright

                  Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                  hmmm, everywhere else in the west? and pretty much everywhere else period, just that in some countries people don't care so much about rules. back home I was able to go to the pharmacy and get the right antibiotics for my ear (punctured eardrum, very prone to infections) when I needed them, but that was only because the pharmacists were nice and understanding people, and there wasn't much in place to control them. from what I hear it is not as easy as that now, after the "revolution". and there it is still possible to go and see a specialist without the need for a referral. here in Australia I have to go to my GP first, and if I'm not bold enough (as in tell him what a low opinion I have about idiots and cheats, with just a few anatomically incorrect suggestions) he'll give me an useless prescription and call me back in a week or two. Only then he'll give me the referral. which only puts me in the queue to see a real specialist, usually more than 3 weeks later. don't give up hope and try to go top sleep OGR

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                  • R Roger Wright

                    Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                    ogrig
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                    3 guys voted for an average of 1.7 just because somebody is clearly in pain and distress ? it looks like the famous "the world population increases exponentially, but the level of inteligence remains constant" law is right after all OGR

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                    • R Roger Wright

                      Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                      force their doctors to participate in an 24hr emergency service.


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                      • R Roger Wright

                        Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                        Roger Wright wrote: the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats Uh, they ain't the only ones forcing it down your throat buddy. The republicans have been in power for plenty long to set things "straight", yet, you don't see any change do you? In fact, many see things getting worse (not just democrats). The whole "small government, fiscal responsibility, moral values, state's rights" thing is a sham. If you can't see that, then you're blind. Once you realize that *nobody* in a position of power in the government gives one tiny shit about you unless you're worth a few million dollars, you'll be better off. Don't blame democrats, blame all the fucking politicians. Remember, it's their goal to stay in power, and if they solved all the problems they promised to solve, there'd no longer be a reason for any of them. I still haven't found what I'm lookin' for - U2

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          I'm looking forward to it, Luis, though given my current financial state, it may be a couple of years. The Tarahumara sounds wonderful to me - I came here to this godforsaken desert hellhole from the mountains of the Peoples' Republic of California. I miss tall pines, bears in the trash cans, racoons on the porch, and various critters that make every day a challenge. Most of all, I miss seasons. We only have two here - Christmas and Summer. It sucks. I'll see you as soon as I can arrange it - thanks for the invitation!:-D "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                          You could always move back here to the PRC...where the new state motto is "Our governor could beat up yours." ;P

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                            Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? I can drive to Mexico, buy the needed meds, return home and have the cure already at work on the problem, hours before I can see a doctor. This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. For all their well-meant efforts, no government managed program has ever failed to make a problem worse than it would have been, left unattended. The FDA is no exception. It's going to be a long, painful night...:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                            Roger Wright wrote: Where else can you think of where a man can be forced to sit at home in the early evening in screaming pain from an ear infection because his government refuses to permit him to purchase an antibiotic that would attack the infection in hours without paying a bribe to a doctor for an official permission slip? The official word is, the Doctors are there to protect you from misuse of the medicine. Yeah, I hate that, too. I think the medical profession is like MAFIA in many ways. Roger Wright wrote: This is just one reason I oppose any form of the Nanny State that Liberal Democrats are trying to force down our throats. Some republicans, I don't mean you, try to blame every problem on liberals/socialists. Nanny State may exist on this planet, but it is definitely not America. By the way, have you tried the emergency room, where you can double the "bribe" and get faster relief?

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                            • R Roger Wright

                              Thanks for the good thoughts, Rui.:-D I'm thinking that, if I can get enough beer in me before I pass out I may make it through the night without waking the neighbors with my screaming... I'm working on it now.:) "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              Can you get cocodamol without a prescription in the US (as you can here in the UK)? If so, it's a pretty effective painkiller, and may help a little (especially if you combine it with a nightcap). Tramadol is pretty effective too, but that's prescription only here. Beyond that the painkillers are not only effective but much more dangerous (coproximol springs to mind). Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                You could always move back here to the PRC...where the new state motto is "Our governor could beat up yours." ;P

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                                Roger Wright
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                                :laugh::laugh::laugh: "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                  Can you get cocodamol without a prescription in the US (as you can here in the UK)? If so, it's a pretty effective painkiller, and may help a little (especially if you combine it with a nightcap). Tramadol is pretty effective too, but that's prescription only here. Beyond that the painkillers are not only effective but much more dangerous (coproximol springs to mind). Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                  Roger Wright
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                                  Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Can you get cocodamol without a prescription Nope. Nothing more effective than aspirin is available.:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: Can you get cocodamol without a prescription Nope. Nothing more effective than aspirin is available.:( "...putting all your eggs in one basket along with your bowling ball and gym clothes only gets you scrambled eggs and an extra laundry day... " - Jeffry J. Brickley

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                                    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                    Your joking! :wtf: You mean you can't even get common painkillers over the counter? That's just madness. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                      Your joking! :wtf: You mean you can't even get common painkillers over the counter? That's just madness. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                      Sebastian Schneider
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                                      Darn. So, a good idea in the US would be to fake pain once a year so you get a prescription for a common pain-killer which you could then store for times of need? For my (still-hurt-a-lot) teeth I am currently using "Tispol Ibu-DD", which is a Lysin-salt (Ibuprofen). I can get this over the counter without a prescription. Also, I have Paracetamol at home once I am out of Tispol, but I will have to bear the pain for 16 hours before I may take the first Para, so I will probably buy another pack of Tispol tomorrow. Cheers, Sebastian -- Contra vim mortem non est medicamen in hortem.

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                                        force their doctors to participate in an 24hr emergency service.


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                                        aber.. "Wie gesagt, der Scheiss is' Therapie"
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                                        Just like all the fat pigs in Washington DC should be forced to live on Welfare (Social Security benefits). If all the lawmakers were required to BETA TEST any law they made for two years first, we would all probably have better laws.

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