Perm. Residence - USA v/s Canada
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
Pete Madden wrote: seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? Seriously what is your specialty and needs? I write very specialized applications, there's no place for me in Canada. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I imigrated to Canada 4 years ago. I am very happy with my decision and am applying to canadian citizenship, but I think your question is very hard to answer. Both countries are very diverse in culture, weather (only US, in this case), economic oportunities, etc. Naturally, for anyone emigrating, the first priority is finding a job. In such case I would say that some promising areas are Texas (US) and the Calgary-Edmonton corridor in Alberta (Canada). In general Canada offers better suport from the government for things like education and health care. Crime and violence is also smaller in Canada, in average. It would help a lot if you could state what your priorities are. For instance, if you're looking for nice weather, your only choice in Canada would probably be BC. Rui A. Rebelo De perto, ninguém é normal. (At a close look, no one is normal) C. Veloso
Rui, Thanks for sharing the info. I have been in US for quite some time and I love it here. The only problem comes when I think of the future. Staying and living on work visa's is becoming tough and the Perm. Residency rules aren't getting any smoother out here. On the other hand I have heard some good things about Canada which are similar to the one's in USA (people's attitude, jobs, economy etc.). So I looked onto their immigration site, took the eligibility test for a skilled worker immigration and passed. I'd appreciate it if you could share some more of your experiences like lifestyles, career etc. http://www.boreddude.com
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Pete Madden wrote: seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? Seriously what is your specialty and needs? I write very specialized applications, there's no place for me in Canada. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I have built (web-based and windows-based) applications for online travel booking engines, educational institutions and the entertainment industry using ASP.NET, C# and SQL Server. What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use?
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I have built (web-based and windows-based) applications for online travel booking engines, educational institutions and the entertainment industry using ASP.NET, C# and SQL Server. What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use?
Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Maple syrup process controller software? :~ :-D Good music: In my rosary[^]
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I have built (web-based and windows-based) applications for online travel booking engines, educational institutions and the entertainment industry using ASP.NET, C# and SQL Server. What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use?
Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Real-time rattlesnake monitoring and control systems... ;) I've never heard a big call for these[^].... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Rui, Thanks for sharing the info. I have been in US for quite some time and I love it here. The only problem comes when I think of the future. Staying and living on work visa's is becoming tough and the Perm. Residency rules aren't getting any smoother out here. On the other hand I have heard some good things about Canada which are similar to the one's in USA (people's attitude, jobs, economy etc.). So I looked onto their immigration site, took the eligibility test for a skilled worker immigration and passed. I'd appreciate it if you could share some more of your experiences like lifestyles, career etc. http://www.boreddude.com
I like a lot the lifestyle here (Edmonton). People are very cordial and friendly and there is a strong sense of community. If you enjoy outodoors activities and nature I can't think of many better places than Canada. It takes a while to learn how to get used to the winter but you can even learn how to like it (hint: don't stay inside). The most difficult thing about career is the start. Most employers prefer people with "canadian experience" and it is a strong barrier. It is an excuse to "you must speak and understand english very well". I guess it might be easier if english is your first language. Also, some few technologies which are very popular in other places (like Delphi in Europe) are almost unknown here. To research technologies and it's demand, check: www.workopolis.ca and www.monster.ca. Canada is very receptive to immigrants, even more than US, I guess. 25% of Canadian population was born outside Canada. In Toronto I guess 60% are non-Canadians. You're right to expect Canada to be very similar to US. The greatest source of imigrants to Canada has been US. What is your native country or nationality? Rui A. Rebelo De perto, ninguém é normal. (At a close look, no one is normal) C. Veloso
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
You are comparing Apples and Oranges. Canada : 1. Good Govt. sponsored programs but come with high taxes 2. Getting job in IT is really tough. Most immigrants who move to Canada will try to look for a job in Toronto only. So to get any IT job they work for less, that eliminates people with better experience (even with US experience). The companies there look for 'Canadian experience' ( I have no clue why they ask for that). Almost 50%(?) IT companies in Canada are from USA only, so usually any job it has to be approved from USA. In lot of instances the companies bring their US counterparts to work in Canada. 3. Weather sucks except Vancouver, but there are very few IT jobs available. 4. Some folks who dare to work in any weather, move to Alberta (where major oil companies exist) and work there. USA: 1. Jobs are there, but you have to move to the places where they are available. Nowadays companies are taking the resumes only if the person is in that local area and available to attend the interview personally.
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
Consider Montreal or Quebec. Great thing for IT are coming in those city. My Blog
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Rui, Thanks for sharing the info. I have been in US for quite some time and I love it here. The only problem comes when I think of the future. Staying and living on work visa's is becoming tough and the Perm. Residency rules aren't getting any smoother out here. On the other hand I have heard some good things about Canada which are similar to the one's in USA (people's attitude, jobs, economy etc.). So I looked onto their immigration site, took the eligibility test for a skilled worker immigration and passed. I'd appreciate it if you could share some more of your experiences like lifestyles, career etc. http://www.boreddude.com
Hi I have been living in Canada (Montreal) for 6 years, I am really happy and the people are very very nice and helpful, the city in the Summer is full of activities and festivals and even in the winter you can find a lot of activities, I can say that it is really hard for me to leave Montreal.
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Real-time rattlesnake monitoring and control systems... ;) I've never heard a big call for these[^].... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: I've never heard a big call for these[^].... What's this a picture of?
"Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action are priceless." - Unknown
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
I can tell you from my personal experience - Canada is not the best place for a programmer especially if you settle in Toronto. Do not expect to find a job here, and if you are lucky to find one you will be paid only a third of what you would be making in US. Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable. Moving to Canada should be the last resort. Again I'm talking from my own experience (I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since).
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: I've never heard a big call for these[^].... What's this a picture of?
"Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action are priceless." - Unknown
DavidCrow wrote: What's this a picture of? Big rattlesnakes that need collaring..... They are QF4 target drone aircraft. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Real-time rattlesnake monitoring and control systems... ;) I've never heard a big call for these[^].... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Heck, then we need you in Kamloops[^]. See all that brown area? Full of rattlesnakes and black widows. Heck, we even have tumbleweeds that roll across the road. Basically take Arizona, subtract 5 or 10 degrees in the summer (it regularly gets up to mid 30's celcius) and you've got the climate here. We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. Cheers, Drew.
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Maple syrup process controller software? :~ :-D Good music: In my rosary[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Maple syrup process controller software? At first I was wondering what has Maple (from Maplesoft) to do with sirup... then I finaly got it right :-O David
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Heck, then we need you in Kamloops[^]. See all that brown area? Full of rattlesnakes and black widows. Heck, we even have tumbleweeds that roll across the road. Basically take Arizona, subtract 5 or 10 degrees in the summer (it regularly gets up to mid 30's celcius) and you've got the climate here. We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. Cheers, Drew.
Drew Stainton wrote: We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. We hit them with something bigger[^]. (P.S. that was not the control system fault, faulty maintenance) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Consider Montreal or Quebec. Great thing for IT are coming in those city. My Blog
I agree, Montreal is the best city in Canada (and therefore the world, I may be slightly biased ;)). It also helps to speak some French, but there are English speaking positions available, since many companies are writing software for US based companies. 60% of statistics are made up on the spot
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I can tell you from my personal experience - Canada is not the best place for a programmer especially if you settle in Toronto. Do not expect to find a job here, and if you are lucky to find one you will be paid only a third of what you would be making in US. Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable. Moving to Canada should be the last resort. Again I'm talking from my own experience (I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since).
I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
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I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
From a personal perspective, I much prefer Canada. Generally speaking I've found it a more open and relaxed culture. Bowling for Columbine showed extremes in differences but there is a basis for what you saw when Michael Moore compared them. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Maple syrup process controller software? :~ :-D Good music: In my rosary[^]
HEY! That's supposed to be TOP SECRET! SPY! SPY! Everyone knows maple syrup is still hand-made by traditional Quebecois methods based on 19th century technology... :suss: The genius of the true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan.
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