Perm. Residence - USA v/s Canada
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
I can tell you from my personal experience - Canada is not the best place for a programmer especially if you settle in Toronto. Do not expect to find a job here, and if you are lucky to find one you will be paid only a third of what you would be making in US. Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable. Moving to Canada should be the last resort. Again I'm talking from my own experience (I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since).
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Jeffry J. Brickley wrote: I've never heard a big call for these[^].... What's this a picture of?
"Ideas are a dime a dozen. People who put them into action are priceless." - Unknown
DavidCrow wrote: What's this a picture of? Big rattlesnakes that need collaring..... They are QF4 target drone aircraft. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Real-time rattlesnake monitoring and control systems... ;) I've never heard a big call for these[^].... _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Heck, then we need you in Kamloops[^]. See all that brown area? Full of rattlesnakes and black widows. Heck, we even have tumbleweeds that roll across the road. Basically take Arizona, subtract 5 or 10 degrees in the summer (it regularly gets up to mid 30's celcius) and you've got the climate here. We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. Cheers, Drew.
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Maple syrup process controller software? :~ :-D Good music: In my rosary[^]
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Maple syrup process controller software? At first I was wondering what has Maple (from Maplesoft) to do with sirup... then I finaly got it right :-O David
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Heck, then we need you in Kamloops[^]. See all that brown area? Full of rattlesnakes and black widows. Heck, we even have tumbleweeds that roll across the road. Basically take Arizona, subtract 5 or 10 degrees in the summer (it regularly gets up to mid 30's celcius) and you've got the climate here. We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. Cheers, Drew.
Drew Stainton wrote: We used to use a lawnmower to remove the rattlesnakes from my friends lawn. We hit them with something bigger[^]. (P.S. that was not the control system fault, faulty maintenance) _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Consider Montreal or Quebec. Great thing for IT are coming in those city. My Blog
I agree, Montreal is the best city in Canada (and therefore the world, I may be slightly biased ;)). It also helps to speak some French, but there are English speaking positions available, since many companies are writing software for US based companies. 60% of statistics are made up on the spot
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I can tell you from my personal experience - Canada is not the best place for a programmer especially if you settle in Toronto. Do not expect to find a job here, and if you are lucky to find one you will be paid only a third of what you would be making in US. Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable. Moving to Canada should be the last resort. Again I'm talking from my own experience (I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since).
I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
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I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com
From a personal perspective, I much prefer Canada. Generally speaking I've found it a more open and relaxed culture. Bowling for Columbine showed extremes in differences but there is a basis for what you saw when Michael Moore compared them. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
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Pete Madden wrote: What kind of specialized applications do you write that Canada won't use? Maple syrup process controller software? :~ :-D Good music: In my rosary[^]
HEY! That's supposed to be TOP SECRET! SPY! SPY! Everyone knows maple syrup is still hand-made by traditional Quebecois methods based on 19th century technology... :suss: The genius of the true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan.
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From a personal perspective, I much prefer Canada. Generally speaking I've found it a more open and relaxed culture. Bowling for Columbine showed extremes in differences but there is a basis for what you saw when Michael Moore compared them. Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D
Trollslayer wrote: Bowling for Columbine showed extremes in differences Bowling for Columbine was a misrepresentation. Life in Canada, as portrayed by Michael Moore, is not accurately represented in that film. I found it rather stereotypical. While some percentage of the population does leave their door unlocked, not everyone does. Furthermore, the purchase of the ammunition was also not accurately portrayed. I suspect there was some rigging there. The genius of the true fool is that he can mess up a foolproof plan.
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I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
then leave and go back were you came from I intend to , eventually.. have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Same type of respect that you have for some opinions different then yours? A Better (!!!) life ? i think your skills aren't up to par Using personal insults, doesn't really add to your response. I don't think that you could conclude about my skills from a forum posting.
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You are comparing Apples and Oranges. Canada : 1. Good Govt. sponsored programs but come with high taxes 2. Getting job in IT is really tough. Most immigrants who move to Canada will try to look for a job in Toronto only. So to get any IT job they work for less, that eliminates people with better experience (even with US experience). The companies there look for 'Canadian experience' ( I have no clue why they ask for that). Almost 50%(?) IT companies in Canada are from USA only, so usually any job it has to be approved from USA. In lot of instances the companies bring their US counterparts to work in Canada. 3. Weather sucks except Vancouver, but there are very few IT jobs available. 4. Some folks who dare to work in any weather, move to Alberta (where major oil companies exist) and work there. USA: 1. Jobs are there, but you have to move to the places where they are available. Nowadays companies are taking the resumes only if the person is in that local area and available to attend the interview personally.
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> Weather sucks You have to learn to appreciate variety. Where else does temperature range from -40C to +40C?
Daniel Desormeaux wrote: You have to learn to appreciate variety. ;) Couple of years back I met an Indian family in Toronto (who emigrated Canada), they didn't complain about the weather. I was surprised about it. When I asked them about it, they said 'we moved here for better lifestyle and we can certainly withstand the extreme weather here.'.
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I came to Toronto 2.5 years ago and suffering since :mad::mad: then leave and go back were you came from :mad::mad:, have respect for other countries that take you in and give you a better life. Do not expect to find a job here... i think your skills aren't up to par Prices in Toronto are very high so most probably, if you had a good lifestyle in US it is going to go down to the toilet if you are moving to Canada as compared to where in the USA, are you comparing Toronto to some backwoods city ? or New York, LA, Chicago. To conclude: money-wise ,weather-wise, career-wise US is preferable so what are you still doing here, i'd be more that happy to drive u to the border.
Canadians! lol - worthless and expendable ~Alexander Kent
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... seriously ... being a software developer ... which one is a better option? http://www.boreddude.com