Google Toolbar - updated without approval!
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Hi, But have you read EULA, it "may" mention that upgrades would happen automatically. And while installing if you checked "I Aggree", then better stop calling names at Google. :) Anyways, I love Microsoft as well as Google, as well as Apple, .. any good company for that matter who has made our life a little simpler. So definitely I don;t see it as evil, I just think that they have saved you an extra click & question "Do you want to update?"
So definitely I don;t see it as evil, I just think that they have saved you an extra click & question "Do you want to update?" Some notification that an update was going to be performed would have been welcomed. It isn't a problem at the moment because I'm not using IE but the google toolbar will be uninstalled the next chance I get. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Can you find a reasonable replacement? this is the question. At least with Google I'm pretty sure I don't get any spyware. Why? I don't really know, I just have this feeling... N Noam Ben Haim Project Leader MobilEye noam.benhaim@mobileye.com
Noam Ben Haim wrote: Can you find a reasonable replacement? this is the question. I don't think that being a monopoly confers Google any additonal rights over their end-users.
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Hi, But have you read EULA, it "may" mention that upgrades would happen automatically. And while installing if you checked "I Aggree", then better stop calling names at Google. :) Anyways, I love Microsoft as well as Google, as well as Apple, .. any good company for that matter who has made our life a little simpler. So definitely I don;t see it as evil, I just think that they have saved you an extra click & question "Do you want to update?"
Anyways, I love Microsoft as well as Google, as well as Apple, .. any good company for that matter who has made our life a little simpler. Good for you. I think differently though :-)
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My Google Toolbar for IE auto-updated without prompting me. Since I primarily use FF now, I just noticed this – the icons look better and there are new features/options. While I appreciate the fact that I now have a newer version, I am a little piqued that it did not prompt me first. Not sure if the error was on the Google side or the IE side – my money is on the former.
In the privacy policy of Google Toolbar[^] it mentions "Periodically, the Google Toolbar contacts our servers to see if you are running the most current version. If necessary, we will automatically provide you with the latest update to the Google Toolbar." The link to the Privacy Policy is on the Choose Your Configuration window of the install which talks about the advanced features. It lets you enable or disable them. It does not specifically mention if this enabling/disabling pertains to the auto-update but it may as that above paragraph is in the Privacy Policy which is what that window is all about. Di you enable advanced features? Anyway, it is mentioned if you are one of the 0.000001% of people who read terms and privacy policies. I agree though, Google should make it an option or at least ask you before updating. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.
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Michael P Butler wrote: If they have updated it without permission There's no "If" about it, they updated it without permission. This is the first time they are doing it! :mad: Michael P Butler wrote: 'Do no evil' - my arse. Exactly! If MSN Messenger had done this, Slashdot and similar sites would have been fuming now. Luckily for Google, they are still the nice-little-girl in the web-space, so everyone refrains from talking bad of them!
Exactly! If MSN Messenger had done this, Slashdot and similar sites would have been fuming now. Luckily for Google, they are still the nice-little-girl in the web-space, so everyone refrains from talking bad of them! Yeah - double standards are always nice. :) --------------------------- 127.0.0.1 - Sweet 127.0.0.1
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My Google Toolbar for IE auto-updated without prompting me. Since I primarily use FF now, I just noticed this – the icons look better and there are new features/options. While I appreciate the fact that I now have a newer version, I am a little piqued that it did not prompt me first. Not sure if the error was on the Google side or the IE side – my money is on the former.
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In the privacy policy of Google Toolbar[^] it mentions "Periodically, the Google Toolbar contacts our servers to see if you are running the most current version. If necessary, we will automatically provide you with the latest update to the Google Toolbar." The link to the Privacy Policy is on the Choose Your Configuration window of the install which talks about the advanced features. It lets you enable or disable them. It does not specifically mention if this enabling/disabling pertains to the auto-update but it may as that above paragraph is in the Privacy Policy which is what that window is all about. Di you enable advanced features? Anyway, it is mentioned if you are one of the 0.000001% of people who read terms and privacy policies. I agree though, Google should make it an option or at least ask you before updating. regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Kirkham wrote: The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the cliché...Star Trek had it in spades.
Paul Watson wrote: In the privacy policy of Google Toolbar[^] it mentions "Periodically, the Google Toolbar contacts our servers to see if you are running the most current version. If necessary, we will automatically provide you with the latest update to the Google Toolbar." I guess thats the price I pay for not paying attention. It's gone now. By the time I move back to IE, IE7 should do everything I need. I only had the Google toolbar installed out of curiosity. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I accidently launched IE yesterday (yes I'm still using the piece of crap called FireFox) and noticed that the Google toolbar looked different. I assumed it was just my poor memory. If they have updated it without permission, then it is going to be removed off my system very fast. 'Do no evil' - my arse. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote: I'm still using the piece of crap called FireFox Why do you consider FF being crap? :confused:
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My Google Toolbar for IE auto-updated without prompting me. Since I primarily use FF now, I just noticed this – the icons look better and there are new features/options. While I appreciate the fact that I now have a newer version, I am a little piqued that it did not prompt me first. Not sure if the error was on the Google side or the IE side – my money is on the former.
I noticed this first at work and thought someone must have done it for some reason, then I come home and find it I was a little ticked off. I may just send it down stream, I have IE 7 which has a search bar (with google on it) and a popup blocker. Thats all I was using google for. Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots
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My Google Toolbar for IE auto-updated without prompting me. Since I primarily use FF now, I just noticed this – the icons look better and there are new features/options. While I appreciate the fact that I now have a newer version, I am a little piqued that it did not prompt me first. Not sure if the error was on the Google side or the IE side – my money is on the former.
I just found that I have yet another update, a button with a new! mark saying "Enable Google Desktop Search". Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Hi, But have you read EULA, it "may" mention that upgrades would happen automatically. And while installing if you checked "I Aggree", then better stop calling names at Google. :) Anyways, I love Microsoft as well as Google, as well as Apple, .. any good company for that matter who has made our life a little simpler. So definitely I don;t see it as evil, I just think that they have saved you an extra click & question "Do you want to update?"
So definitely I don;t see it as evil, I just think that they have saved you an extra click Actually, there is more than one problem with it. Of course there is the idea that someone is loading software into your computer without your knowledge, but then there is the fact that you really do not have a clue if their update will function or just crash your browser or cause other problems on your system. There is always the other problem though, if Google has the code built in to automatically load sofware without your approval, it may be able to be hijacked and used to hack your machine. IIRC, there was a problem with the Netscape download manager a few years ago that opened your system to exploits. Personally, I do not think that anyone should be allowed to automatically update anything on your machine until you have clearly given them the approval to do so. If it is in the EULA, then most people will not know it as most people do not bother reading them. Rocky <>< My Blog[^]
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Michael P Butler wrote: I'm still using the piece of crap called FireFox Why do you consider FF being crap? :confused:
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K(arl) wrote: Why do you consider FF being crap? I feel it needs another couple of months in the quality assurance department. There are two main issues. Auto-updates refuses to work on my machine. Secondly, it has major stability issues when using multi-media such as WMA or Real. I get a least a couple of lock-ups a week. Overall it does the job but it lacks the polish of most commercial software. The competition with Microsoft will guarantee us that both FF and IE will become better products. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I just found that I have yet another update, a button with a new! mark saying "Enable Google Desktop Search". Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote: just found that I have yet another update, a button with a new! mark saying "Enable Google Desktop Search". That's the update I noticed yesterday. Not a problem anymore. The google toolbar is gone and won't be coming back on any of my machines again. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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I just found that I have yet another update, a button with a new! mark saying "Enable Google Desktop Search". Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
If you click the button, and then click on "No Thanks" on the resulting Web page, the button will disappear. Jon Sagara As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks. Sagara.org | Blog | My Articles
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My Google Toolbar for IE auto-updated without prompting me. Since I primarily use FF now, I just noticed this – the icons look better and there are new features/options. While I appreciate the fact that I now have a newer version, I am a little piqued that it did not prompt me first. Not sure if the error was on the Google side or the IE side – my money is on the former.
This is a feature and no, I'm not being sarcastic. The Google bar updates automatically. This is "clearly" stated in the EULA (clearly being a very relative term.) All my virus scanners do the same and not just for virus files. I've instructed Windows XP to do the same with critical updates, though I usually do it manually when I find out about updates. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Paul Selormey wrote: just found that I have yet another update, a button with a new! mark saying "Enable Google Desktop Search". That's the update I noticed yesterday. Not a problem anymore. The google toolbar is gone and won't be coming back on any of my machines again. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
Michael P Butler wrote: That's the update I noticed yesterday. Not a problem anymore. The google toolbar is gone and won't be coming back on any of my machines again. I personally do not have any other problem with the Google toolbar. If they make mistake, they need to be told - we all do most of the times in an attempt to survive. I see fellow programmers out there trying to survive, I will support them with my feedback to help them polish their games. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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If you click the button, and then click on "No Thanks" on the resulting Web page, the button will disappear. Jon Sagara As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks. Sagara.org | Blog | My Articles
I will not click it then, until I learn more on what it does. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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I will not click it then, until I learn more on what it does. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
It just takes you to a Web page that asks you if you want to install Google Desktop Search. If you click "No Thanks", the button on the toolbar will go away. Jon Sagara As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks. Sagara.org | Blog | My Articles
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It just takes you to a Web page that asks you if you want to install Google Desktop Search. If you click "No Thanks", the button on the toolbar will go away. Jon Sagara As you may presently yourself be fully made aware of, my grammar sucks. Sagara.org | Blog | My Articles
Thanks for the information. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Noam Ben Haim wrote: Can you find a reasonable replacement? this is the question. I don't think that being a monopoly confers Google any additonal rights over their end-users.
Nishant Sivakumar wrote: I don't think that being a monopoly confers Google any additonal rights over their end-users. First, they are not a monopoly. Second, they state in a number of places that it is auto-updating From the features[^]page: Auto Update There's no need to check for new versions of Google Toolbar; updates are installed automatically, so you'll always have the latest and greatest version. Your Privacy Google respects and protects our users' privacy. Periodically, the Google Toolbar’s auto-update feature will contact our servers to see if you’re running the most current version. In addition, Google may collect information about web pages that you view when you use advanced features such as PageRank, SpellCheck, AutoLink, and WordTranslator. However, these advanced features can be easily disabled or re-enabled at any time by selecting "Privacy Information" under "Help" in the Toolbar's "Google" menu. To learn more, please read the Toolbar privacy policy. From the Version Information page[^] The Google Toolbar updates itself automatically, so you never need to install a newer version as long as you use the Toolbar. You can check the version history of the Google Toolbar here. Tip: You can determine which version of the Toolbar you have by clicking the "Google" menu on the Toolbar and selecting "Help" > "About Google Toolbar" And I would be suprised if the EULA did not mention it. Shawn