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    ekynox
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    g'day folks, I have stumbled into thinking of obtaining .net certification. My background has been in embedded software development for about 3.5yrs and i made a switch to .NET about 6months ago. I have been looking on seek lately and seeing .NET positions requiring 1-2yrs .NET experience. Once my one year in .NET is up i want to look for other .NET opportunities and i thought that a mcsd certification ought to help in bridging the 2yrs experience gap with my 3.5yr experience in embedded. Now I was wondering what would other ppl think of this ? My perception is that i don't think recruiters(in melbourne,australia) would even consider my initial 3.5yrs in software as relevant experience in software development in .net even though the methodology is all the same but different language. Therefore I was more inclined in obtaining mcsd. I have heard that there are different ways of getting certified in .net. The other day i got a call from seek-learning(http://www.seeklearning.com.au)telling me that they are having a special on mcsd certification. Originally it was costing about A$8.5K now its about A$5k. I am a little hesitant with departing A$5k if there are better ways of learning. Albeit the aforementioned statement it would not worry me as much if in the future i get better .net career opportunities. I have heard of brain dumps but i don't know how effective will it be in actually learning the vastness of the .NET framework. As currently at work we are not even maximising what .net framework has to offer. So far my knowledge in .Net has all been self taught, on the job learning and through codeproject.com. I would appreciate any feedback from fellow .net developers have to offer. thanks ekynox ps. i am based in melbourne,australia tri-nations 05 go the All Blacks :-D

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      g'day folks, I have stumbled into thinking of obtaining .net certification. My background has been in embedded software development for about 3.5yrs and i made a switch to .NET about 6months ago. I have been looking on seek lately and seeing .NET positions requiring 1-2yrs .NET experience. Once my one year in .NET is up i want to look for other .NET opportunities and i thought that a mcsd certification ought to help in bridging the 2yrs experience gap with my 3.5yr experience in embedded. Now I was wondering what would other ppl think of this ? My perception is that i don't think recruiters(in melbourne,australia) would even consider my initial 3.5yrs in software as relevant experience in software development in .net even though the methodology is all the same but different language. Therefore I was more inclined in obtaining mcsd. I have heard that there are different ways of getting certified in .net. The other day i got a call from seek-learning(http://www.seeklearning.com.au)telling me that they are having a special on mcsd certification. Originally it was costing about A$8.5K now its about A$5k. I am a little hesitant with departing A$5k if there are better ways of learning. Albeit the aforementioned statement it would not worry me as much if in the future i get better .net career opportunities. I have heard of brain dumps but i don't know how effective will it be in actually learning the vastness of the .NET framework. As currently at work we are not even maximising what .net framework has to offer. So far my knowledge in .Net has all been self taught, on the job learning and through codeproject.com. I would appreciate any feedback from fellow .net developers have to offer. thanks ekynox ps. i am based in melbourne,australia tri-nations 05 go the All Blacks :-D

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      I took the 70-316 exam. Personaly I don't think that the MCSD title has much worth. But of course it is better than nothing :-) I used the ".NET CoreRequirements Self Paced training Kit" It contains books on the testtopics and some trainigsoftware that simulates the questions from the test. DON'T buy the prety expensive "training kits" and "simulators" from third partys. I used one and I don't think it was worth the money. I don't know how much the "SelfPaced" kit cost. It was supplyed by my epmployer. The BrainDumps are pretty helpfull. And a lot of them are free. So, read the books from the microsoft kit, use the trainigssoftware from the CD and look at a lot of braindumps. :-) I don't remember correctly but I got more than 90% of the questions right.

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        g'day folks, I have stumbled into thinking of obtaining .net certification. My background has been in embedded software development for about 3.5yrs and i made a switch to .NET about 6months ago. I have been looking on seek lately and seeing .NET positions requiring 1-2yrs .NET experience. Once my one year in .NET is up i want to look for other .NET opportunities and i thought that a mcsd certification ought to help in bridging the 2yrs experience gap with my 3.5yr experience in embedded. Now I was wondering what would other ppl think of this ? My perception is that i don't think recruiters(in melbourne,australia) would even consider my initial 3.5yrs in software as relevant experience in software development in .net even though the methodology is all the same but different language. Therefore I was more inclined in obtaining mcsd. I have heard that there are different ways of getting certified in .net. The other day i got a call from seek-learning(http://www.seeklearning.com.au)telling me that they are having a special on mcsd certification. Originally it was costing about A$8.5K now its about A$5k. I am a little hesitant with departing A$5k if there are better ways of learning. Albeit the aforementioned statement it would not worry me as much if in the future i get better .net career opportunities. I have heard of brain dumps but i don't know how effective will it be in actually learning the vastness of the .NET framework. As currently at work we are not even maximising what .net framework has to offer. So far my knowledge in .Net has all been self taught, on the job learning and through codeproject.com. I would appreciate any feedback from fellow .net developers have to offer. thanks ekynox ps. i am based in melbourne,australia tri-nations 05 go the All Blacks :-D

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        Giles
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        Maybe I'm biased because I've never bothered, but I can't see them being worth that much. It seems these days there are 6 year olds who have taken these exams and passed which says it all to me. Nothing quite like a good CV to get you in the door, then its up to you to convince them your the man for the job. Remember, if you can be bothered its a good idea to tweak your CV for each poistion highlighting anything in particular they may be interested in.


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          g'day folks, I have stumbled into thinking of obtaining .net certification. My background has been in embedded software development for about 3.5yrs and i made a switch to .NET about 6months ago. I have been looking on seek lately and seeing .NET positions requiring 1-2yrs .NET experience. Once my one year in .NET is up i want to look for other .NET opportunities and i thought that a mcsd certification ought to help in bridging the 2yrs experience gap with my 3.5yr experience in embedded. Now I was wondering what would other ppl think of this ? My perception is that i don't think recruiters(in melbourne,australia) would even consider my initial 3.5yrs in software as relevant experience in software development in .net even though the methodology is all the same but different language. Therefore I was more inclined in obtaining mcsd. I have heard that there are different ways of getting certified in .net. The other day i got a call from seek-learning(http://www.seeklearning.com.au)telling me that they are having a special on mcsd certification. Originally it was costing about A$8.5K now its about A$5k. I am a little hesitant with departing A$5k if there are better ways of learning. Albeit the aforementioned statement it would not worry me as much if in the future i get better .net career opportunities. I have heard of brain dumps but i don't know how effective will it be in actually learning the vastness of the .NET framework. As currently at work we are not even maximising what .net framework has to offer. So far my knowledge in .Net has all been self taught, on the job learning and through codeproject.com. I would appreciate any feedback from fellow .net developers have to offer. thanks ekynox ps. i am based in melbourne,australia tri-nations 05 go the All Blacks :-D

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          In my 10+ years in the biz, I've never heard a certification come up in the context of an interview, or even on a job. I know no one who has a cert (at least, no one who thinks a cert is important enough to mention). For developers, real programming experience, and having successfully shipped products, is pretty much the #1 thing hiring managers want. --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | NEW~! CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ #include "witty-quote.h"

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            In my 10+ years in the biz, I've never heard a certification come up in the context of an interview, or even on a job. I know no one who has a cert (at least, no one who thinks a cert is important enough to mention). For developers, real programming experience, and having successfully shipped products, is pretty much the #1 thing hiring managers want. --Mike-- Visual C++ MVP :cool: LINKS~! Ericahist | 1ClickPicGrabber | NEW~! CP SearchBar v3.0 | C++ Forum FAQ #include "witty-quote.h"

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            ekynox
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            thanks for the feedback.

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              g'day folks, I have stumbled into thinking of obtaining .net certification. My background has been in embedded software development for about 3.5yrs and i made a switch to .NET about 6months ago. I have been looking on seek lately and seeing .NET positions requiring 1-2yrs .NET experience. Once my one year in .NET is up i want to look for other .NET opportunities and i thought that a mcsd certification ought to help in bridging the 2yrs experience gap with my 3.5yr experience in embedded. Now I was wondering what would other ppl think of this ? My perception is that i don't think recruiters(in melbourne,australia) would even consider my initial 3.5yrs in software as relevant experience in software development in .net even though the methodology is all the same but different language. Therefore I was more inclined in obtaining mcsd. I have heard that there are different ways of getting certified in .net. The other day i got a call from seek-learning(http://www.seeklearning.com.au)telling me that they are having a special on mcsd certification. Originally it was costing about A$8.5K now its about A$5k. I am a little hesitant with departing A$5k if there are better ways of learning. Albeit the aforementioned statement it would not worry me as much if in the future i get better .net career opportunities. I have heard of brain dumps but i don't know how effective will it be in actually learning the vastness of the .NET framework. As currently at work we are not even maximising what .net framework has to offer. So far my knowledge in .Net has all been self taught, on the job learning and through codeproject.com. I would appreciate any feedback from fellow .net developers have to offer. thanks ekynox ps. i am based in melbourne,australia tri-nations 05 go the All Blacks :-D

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              Certs dont seems to mean much to most employers but they can mean a lot to potential clients (if you ever go out on your own). They also give you points for competancies in the Microsoft Partner program which again is a big bonus if you try to get private work. At least with average non tech smaller companies. JJ

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                Certs dont seems to mean much to most employers but they can mean a lot to potential clients (if you ever go out on your own). They also give you points for competancies in the Microsoft Partner program which again is a big bonus if you try to get private work. At least with average non tech smaller companies. JJ

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                ekynox
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                thanks for the tip. I have decided to ditch paying $5k for the course i was offered. Now I am simply opting to buy one of the MS mcsd training kits and study that. After completing one module I can then guage the effectivness of mcsd. I have read a few posts whereby people have said certs dont mean much to employers. However, it does show that a person is proative enough to learn things off their own bat. i do appreciate the feedback. thanks

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