Grocery Bill Survey
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
I spend around $200 for my wife and I. I buy mostly organic products and shop around the edge of the store, only by fresh products rarely anything in a box except for a few essentials. Cutting out meat helps, but buying good cheese and a bottle of wine or two a week doesn't. There aren't many cupons for eggs and fresh vegetables, so that doesn't impact the bill much. Even if we tried, I've heard the average clipper saves $8 an hour using them. I'd rather go code for an hour.
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
When I eat healthy, I can easily spend $150-$200 a week for my girlfriend and I. When I'm eating for cost, I can spend $50 or less for the two of us. Jeremy Falcon
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
Ouch... I spend about that in a month, for my wife and i. Less now that i can hit the farmers markets and get fresh harvest. Marc Clifton wrote: I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Uh, yeah. That shit's expensive!
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~$100 week for a family of four in my household. I also don't understand the point of buying organic...
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Steve McLenithan wrote: I also don't understand the point of buying organic... One advert (can't remember for who) put it well If food is covered in chemicals designed to repel everything that wants to eat it, why should you want to eat it? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
My fiancee and myself spend about £30/week on shopping ($55ish) including stuff for sandwiches for me during the week (except today when I used the free sub-club voucher that's been sat in my wallet for months!) We try and get as much as possible from local markets which keeps the costs down (and the quality up) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
I spend about $70 per week on food. That's groceries plus a couple of meals out. I could probably shave off $10-15 per week without missing it too much. BW
Meanwhile, behind the facade of this innocent looking bookstore...
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~$100 week for a family of four in my household. I also don't understand the point of buying organic...
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Steve McLenithan wrote: I also don't understand the point of buying organic... In order of priority: 1) Because my girlfriend's doctor strongly recommended it 2) Because it supports local farmers and community where I live 3) Because it doesn't pollute the environment with fertilizers and pesticides 4) Because it tastes better 5) Because it's healthier Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
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Steve McLenithan wrote: I also don't understand the point of buying organic... One advert (can't remember for who) put it well If food is covered in chemicals designed to repel everything that wants to eat it, why should you want to eat it? -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Buzzwords!
I personally don't care. I'm still alive and have no problems. Buying organic is a waste of money IMHO.
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
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~$100 week for a family of four in my household. I also don't understand the point of buying organic...
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
My only reason is Marc's #4. It tastes better. Even if you don't buy organic vegetables, compare organic milk and eggs to the more processed versions and the taste difference just stands out. I consider it a bargin to get something that tastes that much better for just a little more.
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~$100 week for a family of four in my household. I also don't understand the point of buying organic...
Found on Bash.org [erno] hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
the taste !!! the difference between an "industrial" tomato and an organic tomato from a farm in the neighborhood is incredible ! Keep in mind that the majority of the industrial vegetables/fruits are not mature. They ripe (not sure of this word) in trucks. Have you ever seen the color of bananas when they take them out of the tree ? They are dark green and become mature in boat with the help of a certain gas (I don't remember which one). Stephane
Stephane
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the taste !!! the difference between an "industrial" tomato and an organic tomato from a farm in the neighborhood is incredible ! Keep in mind that the majority of the industrial vegetables/fruits are not mature. They ripe (not sure of this word) in trucks. Have you ever seen the color of bananas when they take them out of the tree ? They are dark green and become mature in boat with the help of a certain gas (I don't remember which one). Stephane
Stephane
Yeah, that's the reason i try to buy from farmers' markets when possible - better chance of getting food that's actually picked ripe. But organic... i have a hard time seeing it as more than a panacea. No guarantee that organic growers care more about the quality of what they produce than anyone else. Heh... I remember selling apples at a farmers' market. Good apples, picked ripe the day before, and sorted for quality. Produced using just enough pesticides to prevent damage - hybrids, bred to reduce susceptibility to disease and fungus. And i remember walking down the row, and seeing the stall selling organic apples for a couple $ more per peck. Green, wormy, organic apples. I really hate marketing sometimes.
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Yeah, that's the reason i try to buy from farmers' markets when possible - better chance of getting food that's actually picked ripe. But organic... i have a hard time seeing it as more than a panacea. No guarantee that organic growers care more about the quality of what they produce than anyone else. Heh... I remember selling apples at a farmers' market. Good apples, picked ripe the day before, and sorted for quality. Produced using just enough pesticides to prevent damage - hybrids, bred to reduce susceptibility to disease and fungus. And i remember walking down the row, and seeing the stall selling organic apples for a couple $ more per peck. Green, wormy, organic apples. I really hate marketing sometimes.
well, I heard the other day on radio that ~10% of the population in north america suffer from allergies. It has to come from somewhere (ok, perhaps not from food). I don't have kids, but I would prefer spend more money to have healty food and have an healty family than sparing money. But I am not an expert, and perhaps it makes no difference eating food which was not swimming in pesticides and other chemical stuff and eating organic. BTW, this is the same for Genetically modified food. Yes, a lot of experts are saying that it is safe to eat GMO. But who knows what will happend in 20 years.... Organic products don't contain GMO. I'm not ready to play with the life of the people I love. (and BTW, worms are full of proteins, and worms living in organic apples can be considered as organic food themself ! yummy ! :-D )
Stephane
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Yeah, that's the reason i try to buy from farmers' markets when possible - better chance of getting food that's actually picked ripe. But organic... i have a hard time seeing it as more than a panacea. No guarantee that organic growers care more about the quality of what they produce than anyone else. Heh... I remember selling apples at a farmers' market. Good apples, picked ripe the day before, and sorted for quality. Produced using just enough pesticides to prevent damage - hybrids, bred to reduce susceptibility to disease and fungus. And i remember walking down the row, and seeing the stall selling organic apples for a couple $ more per peck. Green, wormy, organic apples. I really hate marketing sometimes.
When I buy at a farmer's market, I don't go out of my way to get organic products since they are all going to be better then what they have at a regular supermarket. When I'm at the supermarket I'll go organic almost all the time because the other option is so styrofoamy.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Steve McLenithan wrote: I also don't understand the point of buying organic... In order of priority: 1) Because my girlfriend's doctor strongly recommended it 2) Because it supports local farmers and community where I live 3) Because it doesn't pollute the environment with fertilizers and pesticides 4) Because it tastes better 5) Because it's healthier Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
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the taste !!! the difference between an "industrial" tomato and an organic tomato from a farm in the neighborhood is incredible ! Keep in mind that the majority of the industrial vegetables/fruits are not mature. They ripe (not sure of this word) in trucks. Have you ever seen the color of bananas when they take them out of the tree ? They are dark green and become mature in boat with the help of a certain gas (I don't remember which one). Stephane
Stephane
The difference, from my understanding, isn't so much that it was grown 'organically' (which has a very specific set of rules which cannot be broken). It's that the mass-produced stuff is grown from strains selected for their ability to be grown, picked, and shipped in mass quantities by largely automated processes. For instance, strains of tomatos with tough skins that resist bruising and can ripen well after picking without losing to much to rot are probably selected for growing in large scale operations. Strains of tomatos grown because they taste great tend to taste better than the strains selected for other reasons. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being grown 'organically', although the two can coincide quite easily. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
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well, I heard the other day on radio that ~10% of the population in north america suffer from allergies. It has to come from somewhere (ok, perhaps not from food). I don't have kids, but I would prefer spend more money to have healty food and have an healty family than sparing money. But I am not an expert, and perhaps it makes no difference eating food which was not swimming in pesticides and other chemical stuff and eating organic. BTW, this is the same for Genetically modified food. Yes, a lot of experts are saying that it is safe to eat GMO. But who knows what will happend in 20 years.... Organic products don't contain GMO. I'm not ready to play with the life of the people I love. (and BTW, worms are full of proteins, and worms living in organic apples can be considered as organic food themself ! yummy ! :-D )
Stephane
Stephane Routelous wrote: well, I heard the other day on radio that ~10% of the population in north america suffer from allergies. It has to come from somewhere (ok, perhaps not from food). One of my favorite "causes" for this is simply that many people alive today are exposed to fewer allergens as children, and so never develop a tolerance for them. But yeah, who really knows? Stephane Routelous wrote: But I am not an expert, and perhaps it makes no difference eating food which was not swimming in pesticides and other chemical stuff and eating organic. FWIW - know your grower. There's no guarantee that what you buy in a supermarket labeled "organic" was grown without pesticides. The pesticides used have to be derived from organic sources (no synthetics). In the hands of a right-thinking grower, these are used sparingly and carefully (as they often effect a far broader range of insects than synthetics), but obviously there's no way to know this without knowing the grower. Stephane Routelous wrote: BTW, this is the same for Genetically modified food. :shrug: I'm pretty skeptical of GM foods at present, but this has more to do with the motivations behind them (allow the use of more herbicides, lock-in for growers) than any fears as to their safety. Let's face it - most of the food we eat is a long, long way from anything that would survive left to natural selection - GM is just the next step. Going back to what i'm familiar with, apples designed to resist certain pests would go a long way towards reducing the pesticides used during production. Stephane Routelous wrote: and BTW, worms are full of proteins, and worms living in organic apples can be considered as organic food themself ! ;) Yeah, but the scarring left behind them kinda ruins the fruit (hard, tasteless). Trust me, i've eaten apples from skin to stem, and the stem is pretty much flavorless compared to a good, ripe, fruit. :)
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The difference, from my understanding, isn't so much that it was grown 'organically' (which has a very specific set of rules which cannot be broken). It's that the mass-produced stuff is grown from strains selected for their ability to be grown, picked, and shipped in mass quantities by largely automated processes. For instance, strains of tomatos with tough skins that resist bruising and can ripen well after picking without losing to much to rot are probably selected for growing in large scale operations. Strains of tomatos grown because they taste great tend to taste better than the strains selected for other reasons. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being grown 'organically', although the two can coincide quite easily. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
Yes, this is very true. If you've eaten any of the "heritage" tomatoes (often grown and sold organic), then you'll nearly weep upon tasting a supermarket tomato. But there's no doubt - the ones in the store are red and smooth and flawless, while the heritage varieties often are lumpy, misshapen, oddly-colored, scarred... and will easily break if not handled very, very carefully. And of course, those beautiful Red Delicious apples are as flavorless as sawdust. The growers destroyed their own market by trying to beat each other to be the first to market each fall, and now... who really eats apples anymore? :sigh:
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The difference, from my understanding, isn't so much that it was grown 'organically' (which has a very specific set of rules which cannot be broken). It's that the mass-produced stuff is grown from strains selected for their ability to be grown, picked, and shipped in mass quantities by largely automated processes. For instance, strains of tomatos with tough skins that resist bruising and can ripen well after picking without losing to much to rot are probably selected for growing in large scale operations. Strains of tomatos grown because they taste great tend to taste better than the strains selected for other reasons. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being grown 'organically', although the two can coincide quite easily. -- Russell Morris "So, broccoli, mother says you're good for me... but I'm afraid I'm no good for you!" - Stewy
Too true, but when it comes to tomatoes nothing beats home grown.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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So what's your weekly average grocery bill? Mine always comes in between $200 - $300, and usually closer to the $300 mark. This is for a family of three, including myself. That comes out to $4.76 per meal ($300 / (3 people * 3 meals a day * 7 days a week)) on the high end. Seems a bit high to me, but I guess that's the cost of all these organic products we buy. Marc My website Traceract Understanding Simple Data Binding Diary Of A CEO - Preface
My wife and I usually spend around $100 a week plus some for the bits we forget to buy/run out of. We don't eat much meat except for fish, lots of vegetables, fresh produce, all organic. It always strikes me as funny that organic/natural stuff costs more even though theres no chemical cost involved. If we have time we buy produce from the local farmers, which makes the cost a lot less :) Phil Harding.
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