Visual C++ .Net
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Yes, it's VC++ 7, and I dunno, but that sounds like a hell of a good price. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
Is there any improvements in VC++ 7 that would make the purchase worthwhile? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
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Matt Newman wrote: Visual C++ .NET Standard for $89.99 USD If it was any lesser. I'd bet that it was a pirated copy. Nish :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Just re-checked it and it is $99.99 USD but 10.00 off right now. -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
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Is there any improvements in VC++ 7 that would make the purchase worthwhile? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
Yes, much better STL, much better general standards support by mid year ( VC internally at M$ compiles Loki now ). Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Matt Newman wrote: Visual C++ .NET Standard for $89.99 USD If it was any lesser. I'd bet that it was a pirated copy. Nish :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
That was my thought too, but I dunno what the Standard Edition would cost, because I would not consider buying it. I've only looked at the incredible prices on the higher editions. I'll buy my copy when I get my next magazine article cheque, I can't afford to buy it from my regular pay. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff.
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Matt Newman wrote: Visual C++ .NET Standard for $89.99 USD If it was any lesser. I'd bet that it was a pirated copy. Nish :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I'd bet that it was a pirated copy. All the standard edition compilers are selling for $99.99 USD retail price. In the case of VC++ the standard edition usually lacks profiling and optimizations (as was the case with VC++ 5 and 6). Something in the back of my head is telling me that VB.NET standard was cheaper than the other two, but I rarely trust what the back of my head tells me it lies too much :laugh: James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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Just re-checked it and it is $99.99 USD but 10.00 off right now. -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
If you can afford it I'd advise you to go and buy it Matt. Here I am trying to get my company to take an MSDN universal subscrib so that I get a free copy of VS.NET [I get one right?] Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Is there any improvements in VC++ 7 that would make the purchase worthwhile? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
Matt Newman wrote: Is there any improvements in VC++ 7 that would make the purchase worthwhile? Dunno how much this will change things, but now ATL and MFC use the same CString class. Nish :-) Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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If you can afford it I'd advise you to go and buy it Matt. Here I am trying to get my company to take an MSDN universal subscrib so that I get a free copy of VS.NET [I get one right?] Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
If you get the cheaper MSDN Professional version you get VS.NET too :) Its only VS.NET pro, but I don't need the other garbage from the Enterprise versions. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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I think I might. One more question, could I use MFC 7 with VC++ 6 Standard? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
Actually, since you're a student you might want to look into academic pricing for VS.NET. The MS website is suggesting a price of $71 for VS.NET Pro. Of course this doesn't help you legally if you want to release something to the masses. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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If you can afford it I'd advise you to go and buy it Matt. Here I am trying to get my company to take an MSDN universal subscrib so that I get a free copy of VS.NET [I get one right?] Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
I think I might. One more question, could I use MFC 7 with VC++ 6 Standard? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
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James T. Johnson wrote: cheaper MSDN Professional version Like how cheap? Gimme the numerics man! Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Like how cheap? It cost us $1000, then there is a rebate if you get the DVD version instead of CD. IIRC MSDN universal is $2500. Esentially if you're going to pay retail for VS.NET you should get MSDN Pro instead, so you get the year of library updates and the operating systems, essentially free. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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If you get the cheaper MSDN Professional version you get VS.NET too :) Its only VS.NET pro, but I don't need the other garbage from the Enterprise versions. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
James T. Johnson wrote: cheaper MSDN Professional version Like how cheap? Gimme the numerics man! Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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I think I might. One more question, could I use MFC 7 with VC++ 6 Standard? -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman Frankly AOL should stick to what it does best: Fooling millions of americans into believing that it, AOL, is the web. -Paul Watson
Matt Newman wrote: One more question, could I use MFC 7 with VC++ 6 Standard? How? :confused: Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Like how cheap? It cost us $1000, then there is a rebate if you get the DVD version instead of CD. IIRC MSDN universal is $2500. Esentially if you're going to pay retail for VS.NET you should get MSDN Pro instead, so you get the year of library updates and the operating systems, essentially free. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
James T. Johnson wrote: It cost us $1000 Hmmm. That sounds good. For $1000 I get :- MSDN VS.NET XP Prof Right? Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
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James T. Johnson wrote: It cost us $1000 Hmmm. That sounds good. For $1000 I get :- MSDN VS.NET XP Prof Right? Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: For $1000 I get :- MSDN VS.NET XP Prof Right? Correct :) Tomorrow I'm picking up the DVDs so I can get MSDN and VS.NET installed here. James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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Matt Newman wrote: One more question, could I use MFC 7 with VC++ 6 Standard? How? :confused: Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: How? One could try to copy the header and libraries over the VC6 ones. I think that VC7 uses a different binary format for the link libraries shutting that idea out. Worth a try though; just make sure you have backups :) James Sonork ID: 100.11138 - Hasaki "My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think." - Thick as a Brick, Jethro Tull 1972
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James T. Johnson wrote: It cost us $1000 Hmmm. That sounds good. For $1000 I get :- MSDN VS.NET XP Prof Right? Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
That's about right. In fact, if I read the ad they sent me correctly, all the Server products, too! I can't afford it, either, but I wish I could... I keep hoping somebody will send me a free copy. Last week I got a set from Oracle - JDeveloper, and Oracle8i Enterprise Edition. - I don't know why. But there's a copy of "Oracle8 The Complete Reference" on my shelf that I haven't read yet. Maybe I should!
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If you can afford it I'd advise you to go and buy it Matt. Here I am trying to get my company to take an MSDN universal subscrib so that I get a free copy of VS.NET [I get one right?] Nish Nish was here, now Nish has gone; He left his soul, to turn you on; Those who knew Nish, knew him well; Those who didn't, can go to hell. I like to :jig: on the Code Project Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Here I am trying to get my company to take an MSDN universal subscrib so that I get a free copy of VS.NET [I get one right?] Actually, It depends on how many licenses of MSDN universal your company is getting. Initially I was the opinion that once you have your subscription you can install whatever that comes along with the subscription and any number of people in the company can use them. I was wrong, the license says that Universal subscription is for a person, and this person can install software on the machines which are under his control and only one person can work on these machines at any point of time. So if your company is getting universal subscription, make the subscription licensed under your name, ie. theoritically its ur comp. that pays the subscription but is licensed for you, thatway u can install all of the msdn universal goodies. p.s these restrictions does not apply for the MSDN as such, it can be used by any no of people of a comp. regards Kannan
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That's about right. In fact, if I read the ad they sent me correctly, all the Server products, too! I can't afford it, either, but I wish I could... I keep hoping somebody will send me a free copy. Last week I got a set from Oracle - JDeveloper, and Oracle8i Enterprise Edition. - I don't know why. But there's a copy of "Oracle8 The Complete Reference" on my shelf that I haven't read yet. Maybe I should!
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True. But it's a lot more than you get with a VS.NET purchase, for only a few years' gross pay more! What a deal!!!