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I Think I'm Done With CodeProject

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  • B Blake Miller

    I think this is a real solution. You can not vote unless you also cast a comment along with the vote. That comment should be publicly viewable.

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    J Dunlap
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    asdf That's what most of the comments would be like, sadly. :sigh:

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      asdf That's what most of the comments would be like, sadly. :sigh:

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      Blake Miller
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      Correct- I would have to sadly agree, but then at least the vote can be 'uncounted' because the comment was BS. Currently, we have a voting scheme with no traceability or context. I can vote an article a 1 or a 5 without ever explaining why. If I give it a 5, someone else might want to know why. If I gave it a 1, same thing. Now, perhaps an admin could discount votes that have silly comments, assuming they were inclined to do so. Now, in the case of 'what article wins an award' this might make sense - to review the votes. In the case of someone voting a response to a post, who would really care? I think I have posted very astute and accurate responses to problems in the VC++ forum, but I have never bothered to vote for or care what votes against me are. On the other hand, like some of John's and other people's comments, I would not want to spend a couple months writing a great article, and be outvoted by some nitwit article, without the tracking in place. In other words, I would not EVER be writing an article for the contest here, only with the express intent of sharing the knowledge. On the other hand, is 'number of posts' an accurate metric for an award either? I mean, sometimes me or DavidCrow have answered a question that he and I probably KNOW that most people have no clue whatsoever. I choose to usually spend my time anwering problems that are not readily answered with a RTFM or 'refer to this article' or just a few months or years of C++ experience would resolve, but rather ones I can recognize require a deep understanding of Windows, its API, or its history, or some obscure Microsoft recommendation or bug workaround. If this were my 'real job' there would be hundreds or at least several thousand answers from me to the questions on the VC++ forum. I just have to divide my time appropriately. What with a 4 week old infant now, time is ever more constrained - as if getting married weren't enough of a hit :rolleyes: Anwyay, I still like it here at CP more than CodeGuru or any other place I have briefly sampled :)

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      • C Chris Maunder

        You can change the forum display settings not to include the message text, but only include message headers (and optionally, a short message preview). This will cut down forum page size (use the "View" dropdown at the top of forums). I'm also working on the rewrite which will allow a further option to reduce bandwidth while still ensuring it's responsive. The C# page is a mess - I know. I've been putting off reorganising this because there's a major reorg coming up and I don't want to double up work. But the emouse pointing stick. Oh man. I'm so, so sorry. cheers, Chris Maunder

        CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Brian Delahunty
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        Hey Chris, You in Canada for the next while?? And at the usual CP address? (...Ferrand drive.... or soemething like that - I know I have the address her somewhere) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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        • B Brian Delahunty

          Hey Chris, You in Canada for the next while?? And at the usual CP address? (...Ferrand drive.... or soemething like that - I know I have the address her somewhere) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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          Chris Maunder
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          Until Nov. 17, then my stint here is up and I'm allowed to go home for a few weeks on compassionate leave ;) cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          • B Brian Delahunty

            Hey Chris, You in Canada for the next while?? And at the usual CP address? (...Ferrand drive.... or soemething like that - I know I have the address her somewhere) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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            Nish Nishant
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            Brian Delahunty wrote:

            And at the usual CP address? (...Ferrand drive.... or soemething like that - I know I have the address her somewhere)

            250 Ferrand Drive :-)

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            • B Brian Delahunty

              Hey Chris, You in Canada for the next while?? And at the usual CP address? (...Ferrand drive.... or soemething like that - I know I have the address her somewhere) Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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              Nish Nishant
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              Planning a Toronto holiday by any chance?

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              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                Until these most/all of these issues are addressed: 1) The site simply cannot support the number of users it has attracted. There seems to be anywhere from 6,500 to 9,000 users online at any given time, and this is crushing the site's ability to exist. If I'm not greeted with a 500 error, the pages takes its sweet bloody time scratching itself onto the screen. It takes even longer to display the front page of the lounge. 2) The message boards are completely inadequate because of the sheer number of posts that are submitted. Posts scroll out of freakin site after only a few hours because of the way the forums work. Despite what people think, many of us have freakin jobs and need sleep every once in a while, and we simply can't monitor the site 24/7. Until a real forum system is installed, I won't be posting any more. If you're not using one because you can't find one written with ASP.NET, that's a piss-poor excuse to ignore an obvious problem on the site. 3) The fact that people can post anonymously has been a thorn in the site's side since the forums were created. There's apparently no way to IP ban people from posting, or there's no desire to do it. Whichever is the case, it's unacceptable. 4) General forum abuse is rampant. Despite obvious instructions to not post programming questions in the Lounge, people do it, and then at least 30 people point out to the offender that they screwed up. The net effect is that more desireable posts fall off the edge of the world never to be seen by people who might be interested in reading or responding to them. 5) The voting system is at least three shades past stupid, and is obviously being abused, especially where the programming articles are concerned. I know I'm not the only person here that's been a victim of this problem. Now, some of you (people that don't know me) may say "so what, this guys is a dick and he rarely contributes anything anyway", but if the problem is large enough for me to post this message, then you can bet there are plenty of other users that feel the same way but are trying to be more tolerant and simply haven't been pushed quite hard enough to say anything. I've been here 5 years (in December), have posted over 5000 messages in these "forums", and have submitted 12 articles, thinking contributing to the site would do somebody some good. I respect Chris and his team, and honestly appreciate what he's trying to do on CodeProject, but I've simply had enough. The site is crumbling under the weight of the user base, the qualit

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                Rocky Moore
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                While I understand that the performance of CP this last year or two is slipping, CP is more than just an archive of articles and a few chat forums. To me, CP is more of a water cooler meeting of geeks and that fellowship is the primary reason I ever post or read CP. The articles can come in handy, but the real key is "connection". Where I am located, tech is just another four letter word that most people do not understand. It leaves a person kind of isolated and forces any fellowship, to be online. To that extent, CP seems to be right at the top of the heap. There may not be a large number of people in the forums, but there are number of quality people that do live in the forums! If CP was nothing more than forums, I would still be here regularly. I know that in other areas CP is going downhill, but I think that is due to the number of people coming into CP that barely even know what programming is or just want help with their homework. No way around those I guess, but I ignore most of them. There is a problem with the anonymous postings and it would be great if CP locked that out completely. I know there may be reasons for it, but it seems to me that the benefits do not seem to compensate for the headaches. What would really make me happy is simply a new site called something like: www.CodeProjectForums.com Where we all can still meet, but not be hindered by performance troubles due to people downloading the entire CP site and junk like that. Anyway, sorry to see you go, but maybe you will be back. Mark took a little time off and it was nice to see him come back! Rocky <>< Latest Post: SQL Server 2005, Major Enhancements! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Until Nov. 17, then my stint here is up and I'm allowed to go home for a few weeks on compassionate leave ;) cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  Brian Delahunty
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                  <Mr. Burns Style>Excellent</Mr. Burns Style> Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                  • N Nish Nishant

                    Planning a Toronto holiday by any chance?

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                    Brian Delahunty
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                    Damn no.. It's cold enough in Ireland at the moment... I'm not going over there during the winter! Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                    • B Brian Delahunty

                      <Mr. Burns Style>Excellent</Mr. Burns Style> Regards, Brian Dela :-) Blog^ Co-author of The Outlook Answer Book... Go on, order^ it today!

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                      Chris Maunder
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                      uh-oh... cheers, Chris Maunder

                      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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