Iran Leader Calls for Israel's Destruction
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kgaddy wrote:
I agree, but I wonder if Israel will strike their nuke facility BEFORE they have the bomb
They have done it before. Maybe the US should sell them a B2. Ryan
O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)
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Ryan Roberts wrote:
They have done it before. Maybe the US should sell them a B2.
They sure did. And they really dont need a B2, they could do the job with a couple of these.F-15
Not really.I am not sure of the distance involved but the F15 Strike Eagle ( the Air to Ground version of the F15) hasonly 2400 miles of range and can't carry a great deal of ordinance. What Israel really needs is about 20-25 Tomahawks. I think we had better start keeping close watch or that many may dissapear from our stockpile any time now. Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
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Not really.I am not sure of the distance involved but the F15 Strike Eagle ( the Air to Ground version of the F15) hasonly 2400 miles of range and can't carry a great deal of ordinance. What Israel really needs is about 20-25 Tomahawks. I think we had better start keeping close watch or that many may dissapear from our stockpile any time now. Richard Suppose you were an idiot... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself. --Mark Twain
They could probably refuel ofer Iraq. They (F-15) did a pretty good job in Iraq in 1981. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051026/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_israel Should Iran be allow to get the bomb? This is a huge red flag.
Iran lets senior al Qaeda suspects roam free: report "Iran is permitting around 25 high-ranking al Qaeda members to roam free in the country’s capital, including three sons of Osama bin Laden, a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday."
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Iran lets senior al Qaeda suspects roam free: report "Iran is permitting around 25 high-ranking al Qaeda members to roam free in the country’s capital, including three sons of Osama bin Laden, a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday."
I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria. Politically, he doesn't have much left to lose, and we certainly need to take them out. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Iran lets senior al Qaeda suspects roam free: report "Iran is permitting around 25 high-ranking al Qaeda members to roam free in the country’s capital, including three sons of Osama bin Laden, a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday."
kgaddy wrote:
a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday."
Must be true then. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria. Politically, he doesn't have much left to lose, and we certainly need to take them out. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria
How can he do that, without raising your taxes and instituting the draft ? I would agree that those countries pose a bigger threat to the US than Iraq did. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria. Politically, he doesn't have much left to lose, and we certainly need to take them out. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria
How can he do that, without raising your taxes and instituting the draft ? I would agree that those countries pose a bigger threat to the US than Iraq did. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
How can he do that, without raising your taxes and instituting the draft ?
While I, for one, would love to see the draft reinstituted, we don't need it for that purpose. Our forces in the area are more than adequate for the job. Most of the insurgents we are fighting are coming from those two countries, or getting their supplies from them, so Iraq would have a respite from most of the violence. Our military remains at full strength, and revenues are flowing into the government right now thanks to Bush's keeping taxes low, which is about the only thing he has done right. Economically we are in a perfect situation to do it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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kgaddy wrote:
a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday."
Must be true then. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Christian Graus wrote:
How can he do that, without raising your taxes and instituting the draft ?
While I, for one, would love to see the draft reinstituted, we don't need it for that purpose. Our forces in the area are more than adequate for the job. Most of the insurgents we are fighting are coming from those two countries, or getting their supplies from them, so Iraq would have a respite from most of the violence. Our military remains at full strength, and revenues are flowing into the government right now thanks to Bush's keeping taxes low, which is about the only thing he has done right. Economically we are in a perfect situation to do it. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Stan Shannon wrote:
While I, for one, would love to see the draft reinstituted,
Because you're too old for it ? :P
Stan Shannon wrote:
Most of the insurgents we are fighting are coming from those two countries, or getting their supplies from them, so Iraq would have a respite from most of the violence.
Can you be sure of that ? Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Funny, you can cut and paste this to any article and try to discredit it. "Must be true then." Do you have any proof this is a lie?
kgaddy wrote:
Do you have any proof this is a lie?
Not at all.
kgaddy wrote:
Funny, you can cut and paste this to any article and try to discredit it.
I tend to regard most of what I read as being based on truth, rather than actually true. I am often proved right in this. The media lies to you. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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I wish Bush would just go ahead and invade Iran and Syria. Politically, he doesn't have much left to lose, and we certainly need to take them out. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
Wow! I'd love to see that too, but for the oposite reason of yours. It would be like trying to extinguish fire with gasoline. Americans would become radioactive in the middle-east for the next 20 years. You would have to say goodbye for cheap oil, goodbye to any influence in the region, ... Oh, well, it would be to good to be true. Even Bush can't be so crazy...:sigh: Dadinho é o caralho! Meu nome agora é Zé Pequeno, porra!
Leandro Firmino da Hora in the best movie[^] you'll ever see. -
Stan Shannon wrote:
While I, for one, would love to see the draft reinstituted,
Because you're too old for it ? :P
Stan Shannon wrote:
Most of the insurgents we are fighting are coming from those two countries, or getting their supplies from them, so Iraq would have a respite from most of the violence.
Can you be sure of that ? Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ?
if the goal is to simply destroy Iran, we're more than capable. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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They could probably refuel ofer Iraq. They (F-15) did a pretty good job in Iraq in 1981. http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/7/newsid_3014000/3014623.stm
That would go over real well in the Islamic world! "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Christian Graus wrote:
Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ?
if the goal is to simply destroy Iran, we're more than capable. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
Chris Losinger wrote:
if the goal is to simply destroy Iran, we're more than capable.
Yeah, that's plainly the case. I certainly hope that is not the plan though. Can you imagine what would come next ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Wow! I'd love to see that too, but for the oposite reason of yours. It would be like trying to extinguish fire with gasoline. Americans would become radioactive in the middle-east for the next 20 years. You would have to say goodbye for cheap oil, goodbye to any influence in the region, ... Oh, well, it would be to good to be true. Even Bush can't be so crazy...:sigh: Dadinho é o caralho! Meu nome agora é Zé Pequeno, porra!
Leandro Firmino da Hora in the best movie[^] you'll ever see.So what made you dislike Americans so much? Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Chris Losinger wrote:
if the goal is to simply destroy Iran, we're more than capable.
Yeah, that's plainly the case. I certainly hope that is not the plan though. Can you imagine what would come next ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Can you imagine what would come next ?
a string of crippled states right through the heart of the ME ? nothing bad could possibly come of that. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker
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That would go over real well in the Islamic world! "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
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Stan Shannon wrote:
While I, for one, would love to see the draft reinstituted,
Because you're too old for it ? :P
Stan Shannon wrote:
Most of the insurgents we are fighting are coming from those two countries, or getting their supplies from them, so Iraq would have a respite from most of the violence.
Can you be sure of that ? Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Because you're too old for it ?
My son isn't. He'll be 18 in about 14 months.
Christian Graus wrote:
Can you be sure of that ? Is the army that's concentrated in Iraq really enough to spread out on the offensive through two other countries ?
As Chris said, I'm merely talking about defeating them militarily. Frankly, I would defeat them than leave them to rebuild as they best see fit without us there. While they were recovering, Iraq would have a chance to form a solid political infrastructure. Factions in both Syria and Iran would see an example of a free and democratic Islamic nation and would be motivated to follow suit. A scenairo such as that is about the only hope I see for long term success in the region. "Capitalism is the source of all true freedom."
