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Sony, Rootkits And Digital Rights Management

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  • J Jim Crafton

    Really? I guess I haven't paid much attention because I so rarely buy CD's (I Van Halen's 1984 a few months ago and that was the first purchase in almost 8 years). But still, this just seems insanely crazy. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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    David Wulff
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    It is crazy, and totally pointless. It only takes one person out of the 2 million people that buy any one album to share it and it's on computers in 160 different countries by the end of the day, and a hit ringtone by the weekend. With the availability of digital sampling/recording equipment that connects to your PC nowadays, DRM doesn't do squat to prevent piracy.


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    • G Giles

      Yep, nasty stuuf. I assume having the auto-run feature on CD's disables this? Are there any tools out there to block this thing from the word go? Personal firewalls ask if you want to allow outbound access, why not always ask if you want to run something from th CD drive? Pretty insidious. -- modified at 15:21 Wednesday 2nd November, 2005 YES, IT DUPLICATED ITSELF. So I deleted it. This site its ALMOST as slow as MSDN. ;P

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      Jim Crafton
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      Well if I understand things correctly you don;t have to install the software - it pops up some silly EULA. The kernel patch stunt is just completely over the top though. What I don't get is that they claim that the music will play normally on a Mac, but on a PC, without the software installed it "will result in distorted sound." How can this be? This sounds like bullshit to me. If they haven't installed any software, what would "distort" the sound on PC that wouldn't on a Mac? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        It is crazy, and totally pointless. It only takes one person out of the 2 million people that buy any one album to share it and it's on computers in 160 different countries by the end of the day, and a hit ringtone by the weekend. With the availability of digital sampling/recording equipment that connects to your PC nowadays, DRM doesn't do squat to prevent piracy.


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        Jim Crafton
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        Yep. You know, I've always thought the whole Napster/file sharing thing was wrong, it's copyright infringement no matter how you cut it. But with this new stunt from Sony, I wouldn't have any sympathy for Sony if someone publishes this shit out there from the DRM'd discs. Serves them right for being such dolts in the first place. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        • J Jim Crafton

          Well if I understand things correctly you don;t have to install the software - it pops up some silly EULA. The kernel patch stunt is just completely over the top though. What I don't get is that they claim that the music will play normally on a Mac, but on a PC, without the software installed it "will result in distorted sound." How can this be? This sounds like bullshit to me. If they haven't installed any software, what would "distort" the sound on PC that wouldn't on a Mac? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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          David Wulff
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          Most audio CD DRM techniques involve encoding the data on the disc twice. Once as normal audio tracks which play in CD players, car stereos, and Macs, and once as a data track which is read by CD-ROW drives. They could be encrypting the data on the data track and using their player to decode it correctly. (Just a guess.)


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          • D David Wulff

            Most audio CD DRM techniques involve encoding the data on the disc twice. Once as normal audio tracks which play in CD players, car stereos, and Macs, and once as a data track which is read by CD-ROW drives. They could be encrypting the data on the data track and using their player to decode it correctly. (Just a guess.)


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            Jim Crafton
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            But Mac's use the same CD/DVD hardware that a PC uses! So how does that work? Does the Mac OS just deal with the hardware differently? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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            • J Jim Crafton

              But Mac's use the same CD/DVD hardware that a PC uses! So how does that work? Does the Mac OS just deal with the hardware differently? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              David Wulff
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              I have no idea. :)


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              • J Jim Crafton

                But Mac's use the same CD/DVD hardware that a PC uses! So how does that work? Does the Mac OS just deal with the hardware differently? ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                Steve Mayfield
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                perhaps the Sony DRM is already integrated into the Mac OS????? Steve

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                  perhaps the Sony DRM is already integrated into the Mac OS????? Steve

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                  Jim Crafton
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                  Nope, definitely not. I personally think they are flat out lying, and simply hoping that people will see this in the FAQ, and assume it's true. I'm willing to bet that it's complete bullshit. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  • R Richard Cunday

                    Excellent article regarding CD copy-protection by sony posted at www.sysinternals.com. A must read! http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html[^]

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                    Ooops. :doh: http://news.com.com/Sony+to+patch+copy-protected+CD/2100-7355_3-5928608.html?tag=nefd.lede[^]


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                    • R Richard Cunday

                      Excellent article regarding CD copy-protection by sony posted at www.sysinternals.com. A must read! http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html[^]

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                      Sean Cundiff
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                      I've run across these CD's already. 1 - Hold the shift key down when inserting the CD. Wait until windows has gone through it's autodetect routine. or Turn off autorun. 2 - Rip and burn to your heart's content. Legal purposes only of course. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                      • S Sean Cundiff

                        I've run across these CD's already. 1 - Hold the shift key down when inserting the CD. Wait until windows has gone through it's autodetect routine. or Turn off autorun. 2 - Rip and burn to your heart's content. Legal purposes only of course. -Sean ---- Shag a Lizard

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                        Nish Nishant
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                        Sean Cundiff wrote:

                        Legal purposes only of course.

                        Of course - that goes without saying :rolleyes:

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                        • R Richard Cunday

                          Excellent article regarding CD copy-protection by sony posted at www.sysinternals.com. A must read! http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/10/sony-rootkits-and-digital-rights.html[^]

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                          Colin Angus Mackay
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                          This story has hit the mainstream as is now on the BBC News Website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4400148.stm[^]


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