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  • T Tom Ollar

    Public voting record as part of each user's profile. Definitely! Chris, how much beer do we have to send to get this one? ;P

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    Michael P Butler
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    Tom Ollar wrote:

    Public voting record as part of each user's profile.

    And what would that gain us? Beyond petty bickering and revenge voting. The trolls will just create fake accounts to vote from. Anybody who takes the voting on CP seriously, really needs to get some perspective. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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      why do we have 2,3 & 4? Does any one use it? ;)


      -prakash

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      KaRl
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      When drunk only :)


      See I try, and look up To the sky, but my eyes burn Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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      • P Prakash Nadar

        why do we have 2,3 & 4? Does any one use it? ;)


        -prakash

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        Marc Clifton
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        Mr.Prakash wrote:

        why do we have 2,3 & 4?

        For the anal-retentive people. Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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          Michel Prévost wrote:

          I think a good add-on would be to be able to see who voted-what on posts...

          Ugh. I should vote you a 1 just for suggesting that. ;P You know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I think there should be a corallary - "if it's impossible to fix, don't bother trying." The voting system is like that. I don't think you can even please half the people half the time with it. But getting rid of it entirely won't work either, because we all love to hit those "1" and "5" buttons. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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          Le centriste
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          Marc Clifton wrote:

          Ugh. I should vote you a 1 just for suggesting that.

          :~ -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson

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          • P Prakash Nadar

            why do we have 2,3 & 4? Does any one use it? ;)


            -prakash

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            Chris Losinger
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            i do. a 3 will take the shine off an unwarranted 5 without pushing it too far towards gray. a 2 does the same thing, but with a little more force. i seldom use 4. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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              Michel Prévost wrote:

              I think a good add-on would be to be able to see who voted-what on posts...

              Ugh. I should vote you a 1 just for suggesting that. ;P You know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I think there should be a corallary - "if it's impossible to fix, don't bother trying." The voting system is like that. I don't think you can even please half the people half the time with it. But getting rid of it entirely won't work either, because we all love to hit those "1" and "5" buttons. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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              Jeremy Falcon
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              You know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I think there should be a corallary - "if it's impossible to fix, don't bother trying." The voting system is like that. I don't think you can even please half the people half the time with it. But getting rid of it entirely won't work either, because we all love to hit those "1" and "5" buttons. You do realize what you just told us about yourself Marc? :) Simple psychology says you enjoy the anonymous down-votes. Personally, I down-voted before and have no problem if the world knows I did it. As such, I don't mind the idea. Jeremy Falcon

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              • M Michael P Butler

                Tom Ollar wrote:

                Public voting record as part of each user's profile.

                And what would that gain us? Beyond petty bickering and revenge voting. The trolls will just create fake accounts to vote from. Anybody who takes the voting on CP seriously, really needs to get some perspective. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                And what would that gain us? Beyond petty bickering and revenge voting. The trolls will just create fake accounts to vote from. I doubt it, since most of these voters are cowards anyway. When they're held liable in a way that CP knows they're just weirdo freaks they'd be less likely to. Granted, I'm sure there would be some revenge voting, but it won't be that bad (remember, some people care about what others think of them). Anybody who takes the voting on CP seriously, really needs to get some perspective. I know what you mean. It's obvious that anyone who votes me down is an idiot, and anyone who votes me up is a genius. As such, I don't have an issue with it. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                  And what would that gain us? Beyond petty bickering and revenge voting. The trolls will just create fake accounts to vote from. I doubt it, since most of these voters are cowards anyway. When they're held liable in a way that CP knows they're just weirdo freaks they'd be less likely to. Granted, I'm sure there would be some revenge voting, but it won't be that bad (remember, some people care about what others think of them). Anybody who takes the voting on CP seriously, really needs to get some perspective. I know what you mean. It's obvious that anyone who votes me down is an idiot, and anyone who votes me up is a genius. As such, I don't have an issue with it. :) Jeremy Falcon

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                  Chris Meech
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                  Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                  and anyone who votes me up is a genius.

                  That's why all your posts get my five. :pats self on back: ;P Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    You know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I think there should be a corallary - "if it's impossible to fix, don't bother trying." The voting system is like that. I don't think you can even please half the people half the time with it. But getting rid of it entirely won't work either, because we all love to hit those "1" and "5" buttons. You do realize what you just told us about yourself Marc? :) Simple psychology says you enjoy the anonymous down-votes. Personally, I down-voted before and have no problem if the world knows I did it. As such, I don't mind the idea. Jeremy Falcon

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                    Simple psychology says you enjoy the anonymous down-votes.

                    :laugh: Simple psychology should say I don't care. :) And yet...I do enjoy the 5 votes. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                      Michel Prévost wrote:

                      I think a good add-on would be to be able to see who voted-what on posts...

                      Ugh. I should vote you a 1 just for suggesting that. ;P You know the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? I think there should be a corallary - "if it's impossible to fix, don't bother trying." The voting system is like that. I don't think you can even please half the people half the time with it. But getting rid of it entirely won't work either, because we all love to hit those "1" and "5" buttons. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                      Tom Ollar
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                      Oh, it's most definitely broke. It currently helps the readers, but penalizes the authors. Does CP want to encourage good articles? - then help the authors a bit here. Authors getting voted down without any feedback is a pretty pointless exercise isn't it? I've even seen one your articles prefaced with something like "Please don't vote without providing feedback." I'm sure that probably just encouraged the trolls... But it's not that hard to fix. A little tweak to the ole profiles, that's all. OT: For VS 2005 Tips and Tricks - is it possible to generate a .Net Framework 1.1 executable from VS 2005? If there's some way to do it that'd be a nice trick!

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                      • T Tom Ollar

                        Oh, it's most definitely broke. It currently helps the readers, but penalizes the authors. Does CP want to encourage good articles? - then help the authors a bit here. Authors getting voted down without any feedback is a pretty pointless exercise isn't it? I've even seen one your articles prefaced with something like "Please don't vote without providing feedback." I'm sure that probably just encouraged the trolls... But it's not that hard to fix. A little tweak to the ole profiles, that's all. OT: For VS 2005 Tips and Tricks - is it possible to generate a .Net Framework 1.1 executable from VS 2005? If there's some way to do it that'd be a nice trick!

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                        Tom Ollar
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                        Microsoft says no here: http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq/default.aspxw :(( Forced march forward I guess...

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          i do. a 3 will take the shine off an unwarranted 5 without pushing it too far towards gray. a 2 does the same thing, but with a little more force. i seldom use 4. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                          Leslie Sanford
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                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                          a 3 will take the shine off an unwarranted 5 without pushing it too far towards gray. a 2 does the same thing, but with a little more force.

                          In at least one case, I gave a post a high rating because I thought that it had unjustly been given a 1. But then I had to ask myself if this was an appropriate way to use my vote. You're voting to affect the overall average rather than voting on what you think the merits of an article/post are on its own. Granted, you're trying to affect the average in such a way as to make it more reflective of what you think it merits, but there's something about that that seems unfair to me. It seems to take away something from those voting strictly on merits regardless of what the average is. The ratings on individual posts don't mean a lot to me, though I will take notice of a 2 or 1 and review my answer to someone to see if maybe I had dropped the ball (I'm speaking mainly about my posts to my articles' message boards). On the other hand, article ratings do mean a lot to me. Ideally, they are a reflection of how well my articles have been received and if I did a decent job communicating their purpose and ideas. On the whole, I have been satisfied that my article/post ratings have been fair. I have no complaints.

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                            Simple psychology says you enjoy the anonymous down-votes.

                            :laugh: Simple psychology should say I don't care. :) And yet...I do enjoy the 5 votes. :rolleyes: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                            Jeremy Falcon
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                            Simple psychology should say I don't care. Then why talk about downvoting the person that wants to change it? Jeremy Falcon

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                              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                              and anyone who votes me up is a genius.

                              That's why all your posts get my five. :pats self on back: ;P Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Remember that in Texas, Gun Control is hitting what you aim at. [Richard Stringer] Nice sig! [Tim Deveaux on Matt Newman's sig with a quote from me]

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Simple psychology should say I don't care. Then why talk about downvoting the person that wants to change it? Jeremy Falcon

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                                Then why talk about downvoting the person that wants to change it?

                                Not that I use this excuse often, but in this case, I was making a witticism. :cool: Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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                                • L Le centriste

                                  http://www.codeproject.com/lounge.asp?forumid=1159&fr=51#xx1271578xx[^] The article is entitled "Happy feast" Isn't it like saying "Happy Christmas to all christians in this great community"? And, as usual in those cases, the voters didn't justify their votes. I think a good add-on would be to be able to see who voted-what on posts... -------- "I say no to drugs, but they don't listen." - Marilyn Manson -- modified at 12:05 Thursday 3rd November, 2005

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                                  Don Miguel
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                                  Thanks to bring it in attention! I'll hurry to vote it down also! ;P

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