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    Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 Team System Licensing White Paper[^]

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      ... Non-delineated roles: four team members involved in all aspects of design, development and test 4 Team Server Suites ... Guess MS thinks everyone is made of money.. Four developers = $44K first year? NOT! I really miss the days of Turbo C :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Time for change! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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        Someone must have bet marketing that they couldn't piss off ALL their developer customers. They lost, BTW... Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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          ... Non-delineated roles: four team members involved in all aspects of design, development and test 4 Team Server Suites ... Guess MS thinks everyone is made of money.. Four developers = $44K first year? NOT! I really miss the days of Turbo C :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Time for change! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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          Rocky Moore wrote:

          I really miss the days of Turbo C

          How about MPW (Mackintosh Programmer's Workshop). It was free. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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            Does anybody else find it kind of sad that they need an entire whitepaper to spell out the licensing for this stuff? :sigh:


            Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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              Rocky Moore wrote:

              I really miss the days of Turbo C

              How about MPW (Mackintosh Programmer's Workshop). It was free. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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              Jim Crafton
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              It still is. Although after having tried to use it (and failing) I can see why. Ickkky :( ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                Does anybody else find it kind of sad that they need an entire whitepaper to spell out the licensing for this stuff? :sigh:


                Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                Francesco Aruta
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                David Stone wrote:

                Does anybody else find it kind of sad that they need an entire whitepaper to spell out the licensing for this stuff?

                well is really sad.. :( At MS are missing one simple point: a clear list of differences beetween all their products' licenses. I don't need any enterprise, team or big visual studio edition. I simply bought V.Studio 5.0 educational and then VC++ std 6.0 and VC++ 2003 std... Every time was a pain find what I can do with my copy (can I write commercial application? can I upgrade to visual studio? can I....) My last question was: "Can I replace my standard edition with the new Express edition? (for commercial purpose for example..)" Well I found a partial answer only on forums... You can find a lot of lists about all items included in all VS editions but there isn't anything about licensing, commercial use or redistributable parts... The only way is read all EULA and tring to find an answer or go around microsoft site (that is huge!!) for hours... Maybe in MS thinks that a simple table is too complicated to write... TBEditor: a pandapowered app!

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                  Even if I could get it installed and if I could afford it, I wouldn't use it. Your tasking system needs to be an extension of hand just like your development environment. You should be able to use it without thinking. I don't want to have to use excel, project and VS along with a dedicated server just to do tasks. TS is a non starter for 90% of small teams. I actually work at a global company and I don't want to bring it in there because of all the red tape I'd have to go through just to buy it not to mention actually using it. E=mc2 -> BOOM

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                    Rocky Moore wrote:

                    I really miss the days of Turbo C

                    How about MPW (Mackintosh Programmer's Workshop). It was free. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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                    At least Turbo C was state of the art in its day :) Rocky <>< Latest Post: Time for change! Blog: www.RockyMoore.com/TheCoder/[^]

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