Free speech is an important right, but, ...
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Michael Martin wrote:
Couldn't they get email hosting along with the website?
They were probably too stupid to know how.
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
It also gives them the ability to spy on anyone they want.
That sounds like it is violation of your fourth ammendment.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
And, they can hold you as long as they see fit if they decide to arrest you under "Terrorism Charges".
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
And, they can hold you as long as they see fit if they decide to arrest you under "Terrorism Charges".
Doesn't that violate your fifth ammendment?
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
It violates both the fourth and fifth ammendment. Our government can get by with anything they want if they can convince the pepole that they are safer for it.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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It violates both the fourth and fifth ammendment. Our government can get by with anything they want if they can convince the pepole that they are safer for it.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
That sounds familiar. Tony Blair is like that. He thinks he can push through any laws he likes if he convinces people that they will be safer for it. However, because of the First-past-the-post voting system in use here, he was elected on only 35% of the vote and people are not happy. He is having a tougher and tougher time.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
It also gives them the ability to spy on anyone they want.
That sounds like it is violation of your fourth ammendment.
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
And, they can hold you as long as they see fit if they decide to arrest you under "Terrorism Charges".
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
And, they can hold you as long as they see fit if they decide to arrest you under "Terrorism Charges".
Doesn't that violate your fifth ammendment?
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
That sounds like it is violation of your fourth ammendment. Doesn't that violate your fifth ammendment?
Actually, all the ammendments are essentially irrelevant with the patriot act. Although, theoretically, you cannot abridge a constitutional ammendment without another constitutional ammendment... the theory is they have only established clear preference between the three branches of government. The executive branch having senior privledge over all other branches, thus exempt from any limitations when "security of the country" is required. No trial may ever be required, no limit to imprisonment, no rights within prison to religion, or to speak of your capture, or face a jury of your peers, or any jury anywhere. Basically all the ammendments are laid waste by the patriot act. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Good point, but I am not classifying people according to their race, the people on my list are there because of what they do, and their beliefs. Also, I am not taking on the beliefs of someone who started a world war trying dominate all of Europe, and kill off an entire race of people.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
but I am not classifying people according to their race
Only religion, right ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
but I am not classifying people according to their race
Only religion, right ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You must not have read my list. What do socialists, or gun control advocates have to do with religion?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You must not have read my list. What do socialists, or gun control advocates have to do with religion?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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That sounds familiar. Tony Blair is like that. He thinks he can push through any laws he likes if he convinces people that they will be safer for it. However, because of the First-past-the-post voting system in use here, he was elected on only 35% of the vote and people are not happy. He is having a tougher and tougher time.
My: Blog | Photos "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucious
It sounds like Tony Blair and Bush have alot in common. Only, I think Tony Blair is more intelligent. Once, Bush was asked what him and Blair had in common, and he replied "We both use colgate toothpaste." For a list of some other stupid things bush has said, go here: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You must not have read my list. What do socialists, or gun control advocates have to do with religion?
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
What do socialists, or gun control advocates have to do with religion?
Nothing, but do you know what a Muslim is ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Everything, if you ask Stan
That is true. Everything we humans do ultimately turns out to be about religion. :-D "Patriotism is the first refuge of a patriot."
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
What do socialists, or gun control advocates have to do with religion?
Nothing, but do you know what a Muslim is ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You seemed to suggest that I only classified people according to religion. And, yes, I know what a Muslim is. Everyone does.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You seemed to suggest that I only classified people according to religion. And, yes, I know what a Muslim is. Everyone does.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
You seemed to suggest that I only classified people according to religion.
You did classify people by religion. Obviously you made other generalisations as well, I just thought I'd point that one out. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
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Christian Graus wrote:
Only religion, right ?
You seemed to suggest that I only classified people according to religion. And, yes, I know what a Muslim is. Everyone does.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
And, yes, I know what a Muslim is. Everyone does.
I don't. Please enlighten me. I would love to hear your opinion of what a Muslim is.
Josh Gray wrote:
I don't. Please enlighten me. I would love to hear your opinion of what a Muslim is.
Are you really interested in my opinion? I seriously doubt it after the way you bashed me in the thread about the European Union.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Josh Gray wrote:
I don't. Please enlighten me. I would love to hear your opinion of what a Muslim is.
Are you really interested in my opinion? I seriously doubt it after the way you bashed me in the thread about the European Union.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Are you really interested in my opinion? I seriously doubt it after the way you bashed me in the thread about the European Union.
Yes I am but that doesnt mean that i will agree with you. I am interested to see what an American teenager has been taught. Dont take things too personally.
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
You seemed to suggest that I only classified people according to religion.
You did classify people by religion. Obviously you made other generalisations as well, I just thought I'd point that one out. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++
You are correct. I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions. Here are a few verses from the Koran. Sura 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 9:123
O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Sura 4:101
When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.
This[^] Is an excellent article about the Koran.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Stan Shannon wrote:
I trust the people to determine what represents socially acceptable speech and what doesn't. In the US, at least, the first amendment was never considered by those who wrote it to provide for absolute freedoms. It was assumed that local communities would continue, as they had always done, to be the final arbiters of what sort of speech was appropriate.
You have a good point. The first ammendment says:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
The 10th ammendment says:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people
So, since it is not up to Congress what constitutes as acceptable speech, it must be up to the states and the people.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
Are you really interested in my opinion? I seriously doubt it after the way you bashed me in the thread about the European Union.
Yes I am but that doesnt mean that i will agree with you. I am interested to see what an American teenager has been taught. Dont take things too personally.
It is not what I have been taught. I am actually homeschooled, and have gotten my views on my own. The way I see muslims is they are not a religion of peace, and the terrorists are the ones who truly follow the teachings of Mohammad. The peaceful muslims are the more liberal ones who don't follow Mohammad's teachings. The Koran clearly tells you to kill unbelievers. I know you will want me to back that up, so Here[^] is a site where the verses I am talking about are shown. I view Islam as a militant religion. That may not be the political correct multicultural kind of view that alot of people have, but it is what I believe.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
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You are correct. I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions. Here are a few verses from the Koran. Sura 9:5
So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Sura 9:123
O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
Sura 4:101
When you travel, during war, you commit no error by shortening your Contact Prayers (Salat), if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.
This[^] Is an excellent article about the Koran.
Pumk1nh3ad illustrates that Intelligent Design oft goes awry. - Ed Gadziemski You did'nt get it. I over estimated you. - Josh Gray
Pumk1nh3ad wrote:
I feel that way toward muslims because their bible tells them to kill people of other religions.
Well, apparently. I'm a Christian, FWIW, but I can find Old Testament verses that taken in isolation would infer exactly what these verses seem to imply. However, I had the chance to talk to a Muslim recently about his beliefs, and I would have to say it's the most untenable religion I've ever heard of. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++