Countries around the world and what is going on
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With Congo things are relatively easy for me to follow. Our former colony and the actions of our previous governements are the subject of several parliamentary investigations so it is relatively often discussed in local media. For the rest of the world I usually read the reuters newsfeed, watch our local newsfeed (which has a nifty feature: after an important event happened they revisit it after a few months to re-evaluate it) and the BBC. Unfortunately news gets a different colour depending on the source.(Best example in this case is CNN news on the 2nd Intifada). PS :My first reply may have been a bit brusque :-O
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With Congo things are relatively easy for me to follow. Our former colony and the actions of our previous governements are the subject of several parliamentary investigations so it is relatively often discussed in local media. For the rest of the world I usually read the reuters newsfeed, watch our local newsfeed (which has a nifty feature: after an important event happened they revisit it after a few months to re-evaluate it) and the BBC. Unfortunately news gets a different colour depending on the source.(Best example in this case is CNN news on the 2nd Intifada). PS :My first reply may have been a bit brusque :-O
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What in miniputt's name is Angola? Nish p.s. I got 56 in miniputt.swf. Cool eh? :-) My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org
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What in miniputt's name is Angola? Nish p.s. I got 56 in miniputt.swf. Cool eh? :-) My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org
Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* hmmm. Actually I jus felt a little embarassed :-) Paul Watson wrote: Use Google Nish, or type angola.com Sorry. I should have, but I didnt. Strangely I dont use google automatically for non-programming-related queries. Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? I actually don't watch CNN for the news anymore after 9-11. I just feel they're not an impartial source of news. I just watch the sports and business news there. As for keeping up with events in "obscure" countries such as Angola, Congo, Sierra Leone...I find that BBC Radio is excellent, as well as, ironically, Voice of America radio. When I first moved to joburg I didn't have a TV, only a small radio. Funny thing about radio is it actually gives you a far greater sense of community than television. I listened to English broadcasts from Holland, Ireland, Canada, you name it... Then I bought a TV and degenerated. Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
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Paul Watson wrote: Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? I actually don't watch CNN for the news anymore after 9-11. I just feel they're not an impartial source of news. I just watch the sports and business news there. As for keeping up with events in "obscure" countries such as Angola, Congo, Sierra Leone...I find that BBC Radio is excellent, as well as, ironically, Voice of America radio. When I first moved to joburg I didn't have a TV, only a small radio. Funny thing about radio is it actually gives you a far greater sense of community than television. I listened to English broadcasts from Holland, Ireland, Canada, you name it... Then I bought a TV and degenerated. Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
Senkwe Chanda wrote: Then I bought a TV and degenerated. Then you bought a computer and the degenerated you started decaying as well. Then you took an internet connection and the decaying you started decomposing as well. Same with all of us... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org
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Senkwe Chanda wrote: Then I bought a TV and degenerated. Then you bought a computer and the degenerated you started decaying as well. Then you took an internet connection and the decaying you started decomposing as well. Same with all of us... Nish My most recent CP article :- A newbie's elementary guide to spawning processes www.busterboy.org
All of a sudden I see a mental picture of pools of goo oozing over keyboards X|
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Paul Watson wrote: Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? I actually don't watch CNN for the news anymore after 9-11. I just feel they're not an impartial source of news. I just watch the sports and business news there. As for keeping up with events in "obscure" countries such as Angola, Congo, Sierra Leone...I find that BBC Radio is excellent, as well as, ironically, Voice of America radio. When I first moved to joburg I didn't have a TV, only a small radio. Funny thing about radio is it actually gives you a far greater sense of community than television. I listened to English broadcasts from Holland, Ireland, Canada, you name it... Then I bought a TV and degenerated. Regards Senkwe Just another wannabe code junky
next small point for bbc radio hard to say more about their africa news or always-best-only for cases where they (uk) interested but i like their outside look commenting my country news and much more i like they do not mention it at all nevertheless here everyone stays on head but from world look it is not interesting oh, good old radio times: before cca 15 years i found there was foreign broadcasting to my country from: usa, uk, germany, vatican, soviet union, albania, china, (something from south america), ... t!
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknown -
Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
David Patrick wrote: I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources... That's my reaction. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net for political news (tech news only). I know that I'll only be disappointed and saddened, so I choose to ignore it. Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it. Canada has lots of islands up near the north pole. I'm pretty sure we could spare one. "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire
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How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknownJosh Knox wrote: I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? <politically incorrect> Because everyone else is the infidel and we must all die, die, die... They are a very intolerant bunch, especially when in a mob. They cause a lot of trouble in my home city and it pisses me off big time. </politically incorrect> Anyway, we are both way off topic aren't we :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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David Patrick wrote: I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources... That's my reaction. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net for political news (tech news only). I know that I'll only be disappointed and saddened, so I choose to ignore it. Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it. Canada has lots of islands up near the north pole. I'm pretty sure we could spare one. "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire
Those islands are parklands. Don't dump your problems on our parks! Think of the wildlife you'd be destroying. Have you no heart?! J
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: Only it is not a very friendly place. It's the only place I know that uses endangered species for target practice...
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Paul Watson wrote: Only it is not a very friendly place. It's the only place I know that uses endangered species for target practice...
Or invites the natives to barbecues :((
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How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknownJosh Knox wrote: How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? My wife has been reading "A Fine Balance" (Rohinton Mistry). The novel is fiction based on reality. It describes the lives of several different people living in India during "The Emergency" (1970s). The recent incident reminded me of a passage that my wife read to me. The passage describes the situation of increasing anti-Islamic sentiment amung Hindus at that time. This led to many violent acts against Muslims. A large number of Muslims took the hint and headed for the border by train. A Muslim character in the book decides not to leave when he is told that there are trains full of dead Muslims near the border. Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. Perhaps someone with good knowledge of Indian history could confirm or disconfirm this. Regards, Dan
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Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
David Patrick wrote: They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. But my point is that once they drop that topic for another one that first topic is still, in most cases, going on. Not always, but then, for instance, the Congo war did not stop when MSNBC switched to another topic. And I want to know where you find that kind of information out, where can I go "Country = Angola" and it returnes "Situation = Civil War" and whole bunch more. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Josh Knox wrote: How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? My wife has been reading "A Fine Balance" (Rohinton Mistry). The novel is fiction based on reality. It describes the lives of several different people living in India during "The Emergency" (1970s). The recent incident reminded me of a passage that my wife read to me. The passage describes the situation of increasing anti-Islamic sentiment amung Hindus at that time. This led to many violent acts against Muslims. A large number of Muslims took the hint and headed for the border by train. A Muslim character in the book decides not to leave when he is told that there are trains full of dead Muslims near the border. Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. Perhaps someone with good knowledge of Indian history could confirm or disconfirm this. Regards, Dan
Daniel Pratt wrote: Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. While what the Hindus did in that case was very wrong, it in no way condones or gives Muslims any right to do the same back to the Hindus. But we know you know that, so no problem :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront