Countries around the world and what is going on
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknown -
Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
David Patrick wrote: I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources... That's my reaction. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net for political news (tech news only). I know that I'll only be disappointed and saddened, so I choose to ignore it. Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it. Canada has lots of islands up near the north pole. I'm pretty sure we could spare one. "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire
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How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknownJosh Knox wrote: I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? <politically incorrect> Because everyone else is the infidel and we must all die, die, die... They are a very intolerant bunch, especially when in a mob. They cause a lot of trouble in my home city and it pisses me off big time. </politically incorrect> Anyway, we are both way off topic aren't we :-D regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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David Patrick wrote: I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources... That's my reaction. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net for political news (tech news only). I know that I'll only be disappointed and saddened, so I choose to ignore it. Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it. Canada has lots of islands up near the north pole. I'm pretty sure we could spare one. "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire
Those islands are parklands. Don't dump your problems on our parks! Think of the wildlife you'd be destroying. Have you no heart?! J
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Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: What in miniputt's name is Angola? It is a very rude swear word used by Africans. It basically means "You are wrong" but obviously in a terrible way. So you should never use that word Nish, not ever. dot, dot, dot... *waits for the penny to drop in Nish's paranoid head* Just kidding Nish. Angola is a country in Africa, like SA or Namibia or Congo. Only it is not a very friendly place. Use Google Nish, or type angola.com regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: Only it is not a very friendly place. It's the only place I know that uses endangered species for target practice...
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Paul Watson wrote: Only it is not a very friendly place. It's the only place I know that uses endangered species for target practice...
Or invites the natives to barbecues :((
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How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknownJosh Knox wrote: How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? My wife has been reading "A Fine Balance" (Rohinton Mistry). The novel is fiction based on reality. It describes the lives of several different people living in India during "The Emergency" (1970s). The recent incident reminded me of a passage that my wife read to me. The passage describes the situation of increasing anti-Islamic sentiment amung Hindus at that time. This led to many violent acts against Muslims. A large number of Muslims took the hint and headed for the border by train. A Muslim character in the book decides not to leave when he is told that there are trains full of dead Muslims near the border. Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. Perhaps someone with good knowledge of Indian history could confirm or disconfirm this. Regards, Dan
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Actually, if you want to see a topic beat to death for months on end just watch MSNBC - Microsoft & NBCs cable news channel - They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. When there was the high school shooting in colorado a while back they latched onto it and were providing 24 hour coverage for what seemed like months afterword, constantly re-reporting the same info over and over again .. and with that type of "over coverage" there is no wonder why there were so many instances of high-school bomb threats and the like after the original incident. I must admit it, I am so tired of hearing nothing but bad news that I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources and the like so that I do not have to hear about how one group of people instigated violence against another group of people .. yes, perhaps a bit hypocritical coming from an American. Perhaps I'm in a bit of a personal depression, but I am seriously disappointed in the human race as a whole .. it's amazing too because on a individual basis most people are okay, up-standing, kind, morale, etc .. but get us together into a group and all that goes out the window. I had a teacher in high school who used to say "The masses are asses" .. how true, how sad ..
David Patrick wrote: They latch onto the latest topic and do not drop it till the next hot button topic comes along. But my point is that once they drop that topic for another one that first topic is still, in most cases, going on. Not always, but then, for instance, the Congo war did not stop when MSNBC switched to another topic. And I want to know where you find that kind of information out, where can I go "Country = Angola" and it returnes "Situation = Civil War" and whole bunch more. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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Josh Knox wrote: How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? My wife has been reading "A Fine Balance" (Rohinton Mistry). The novel is fiction based on reality. It describes the lives of several different people living in India during "The Emergency" (1970s). The recent incident reminded me of a passage that my wife read to me. The passage describes the situation of increasing anti-Islamic sentiment amung Hindus at that time. This led to many violent acts against Muslims. A large number of Muslims took the hint and headed for the border by train. A Muslim character in the book decides not to leave when he is told that there are trains full of dead Muslims near the border. Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. Perhaps someone with good knowledge of Indian history could confirm or disconfirm this. Regards, Dan
Daniel Pratt wrote: Whereas the book is intended to be based on reality, I would guess that such events did take place. While what the Hindus did in that case was very wrong, it in no way condones or gives Muslims any right to do the same back to the Hindus. But we know you know that, so no problem :) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
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David Patrick wrote: I am either numb to it or actively avoiding news sources... That's my reaction. I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net for political news (tech news only). I know that I'll only be disappointed and saddened, so I choose to ignore it. Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it. Canada has lots of islands up near the north pole. I'm pretty sure we could spare one. "Why kill time, when you can kill yourself?" - Cabaret Voltaire
"I don't watch TV, listen to the radio, or even search the net." "Maybe we should put all of the people who want to kill each other on an island and let them go at it." Oh, very nice. Do you really think you are a good boy just by not killing anyone and not reading news? Let me throw your ideas to the ground. We are all responsible for crimes all around the world. It's true there are too many crazy people fighting each other and it would be really nice take them away and end the problem, but the situation is a little more complicated. A reason this happens is because there are too many people (like you) who think they are not responsible for what their government do. How are you responsible for these crimes? Very simple, you pay taxes, and taxes are used in many cases to commit crimes all around the world. I don't know were you are from, but I just can't think of a country which hadn't at least once commit crimes and kill innocent people on other countries, just for money. I could give you examples of USA, Mexico, Colombia, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, France, Italy, Germany, South Africa, Russia, Arabia, Iraq, Ireland, Kuwait, England, India, Japan, China, Peru, Cuba, Israel, Afghanistan, and many others. All you have to do is read about a country history to see how passivity and ignorance of their people let their governments oppress and kill many innocent people, supported by their citizen. This kind of crimes caused millions of death last century. Do I mean war is correct? No, not at all. Please don't get me wrong. All I'm saying is getting interesded in politics and voting is not a right, it's an obligation, cause if you don't use your right to decide whether or not to kill innocent people, other will take this decision for you, in your name. Do you need an example? * Many criminals where given money by governments to force/murder politics and presidents, in exchange of rights to extract petrol from poor countries. Where do you think this money comes from? * A few years ago a read a detailed mathematical analysis showing how nuclear tests have increased cancer deceases (I can't remember the percentage). Who do you think gave a single person this authorization? Now, can you really say we are not responsible for these crimes?
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
A couple of years ago, some countries as USA wondered whether they should stop selling weapons to this countries. (Sierra Leona in this case):) It was time to ask this, don't you think? :confused: Unfortunately many counties, as Russia, refused saying this were the biggest weapons buyers in the world, and it was an important income. :omg: Another example, during Desert Storm in Iraq and later, many countries (I can't remember which were, but they were from Europe) kept on selling weapons to Iraq. How long do you think it will take for a crazy guy to start killing people in foreing counties? X| Isn't it time to demand our governments a little more responsibility? :suss:
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How 'bout in India the other day: A train full of Hindus was set ablaze by a mob of angry Muslims. 50+ Hindus were burnt alive. WTF!?!? I have nothing against peace loving Muslims, but whay the hell are they always killing people? Josh Knox that-guy.net
"Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away, and you have their shoes." - author unknown(sigh) Today, they said that Hindus avenged the killings by killing 40+ Muslims in India. http://webcenter.newssearch.netscape.com/aolns\_display.adp?key=200202281252000227525\_aolns.src
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
One place I like to go is the BBC's website. You can click on a region (in the upper left) and get news about that region. For example: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/default.stm
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A recent event highlighted something for me. The body of Savimbi, riddled by fiften bullets, the leader of the UNITA rebel movement in the Congo, Africa, was splashed across the TV and print-media this week. Suddenly the Congo is back in the media circus and the experts who were dormant are appearing again. A few months ago the Congo was in the media spotlight as well. It lasted for at least three weeks, with bloody details and some hair raising words. But inbetween that initial media spotlight and this latest frenzy, what has been happening in the Congo? I don't know, and I live in Africa. I am pretty sure the same bloody events were going on while the media were not there. Yet the most I saw was a three line "The Congo war rages on" story in all those months. This higlighted something to me: Life does not stop, wars carry on, governments are still overthrown, people still die and bad things happen whether the media is there or not. We just don't hear about it apart from the initial frenzy and then the end media circus. Inbetween, in the thick of things, nothing is really reported. For all intents and purposes to the rest of the world the war has stopped, the rebels are standing around thinking of ways to get the media back so that they can continue. This is happening all over the world. Vietnam is still very tense, the Congo is still bloody and there are still many problems in the former Soviet Union. So how do you find out about these things? How do you keep up to date on what is happening in a specific country? Is there a central source for this kind of information? Or do we have to rely on CNN, Sky and the BBC with their short attention spans? Do we need a central source for this kind of information? What do you think? Things don't just go away when the media leaves, they carry on. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Sonork ID: 100.9903 Stormfront
this weekend i got next african info: next deaths in algeria, in last 9 years over 100 000 death people in civil confict t!