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I Am the Very Model of a Modern Major Minor Revision Build

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  • P Paul Watson

    Yes of course. We have continuous integration and nightly builds. Not sure how that impacts my build/revision number question though. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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    Chris LaQuerre
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    Paul Watson wrote:

    Not sure how that impacts my build/revision number question though.

    Oops. Looks like I made up my own question and answered it. I'll blame that on a rough weekend. Chris LaQuerre eBusiness Projects Leader There is no 'patch' for stupidity. - quote found on SQLSecurity.com

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      So you could have 2.0.1.11339 and 2.0.2.11339 from one day. (The daily build plus a revision build.) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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      Lost User
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      We do nightly builds of all our products and we stick to this policy. And we don't use a "revision" build - the "revision" number is at the programmers discretion (we have had that discussion before I think). If someone reports a bug in one of my products, I fix it, test it, commit the change and tomorrows build will contain the change. If someone finds a show-stopper, then they either wait for the fix ( :) ) or they regress to an earlier build (we archive known "good" builds that have been fully QA'd). Using this scheme has been very, very useful over the years. From the build number, we can get easily extract the build date, which in turn could be used with CVS (on the odd occasion where I need to checkout a build from a specific day for various reasons!). Sticking to a single daily build is obviously crucial.


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      • P Paul Watson

        Chaps, a programming question. Versioning. Is it:

        1. Major. Minor. Revision. Build
        2. Major. Minor. Build. Revision

        and why? I've always put build last and it literally just counts the numer of builds. Revision to me is for minor bug fixes and is a developer set number (unlike build.) So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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        Chris Losinger
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        we use: Major.Minor.MinorNewFeature.BugFix Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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        • P Paul Watson

          Chaps, a programming question. Versioning. Is it:

          1. Major. Minor. Revision. Build
          2. Major. Minor. Build. Revision

          and why? I've always put build last and it literally just counts the numer of builds. Revision to me is for minor bug fixes and is a developer set number (unlike build.) So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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          Gary Wheeler
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          Hmm. We use major.minor.build. We don't use a revision level, as that level of granularity isn't necessary given the length of our release cycles. We also don't do automated nightly builds. With four active products, and multiple branches of each, we'd have to dedicate all of our development boxes (not just the build machine) to doing a nightly build.

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          So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision?

          A. Somebody at Microsoft just said "Oops". In other words, they screwed up. B. The revision number means something; it refers to a variation on the standard build. For example, version 1.2.327.1 is the English build, 1.2.327.2 is the Spanish build, 1.2.327.3 is the Japanese build for build number 327 of version 1.2.


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            Paul Watson wrote:

            Not sure how that impacts my build/revision number question though.

            Oops. Looks like I made up my own question and answered it. I'll blame that on a rough weekend. Chris LaQuerre eBusiness Projects Leader There is no 'patch' for stupidity. - quote found on SQLSecurity.com

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            Paul Watson
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            hehe no worries, I was just making sure I wasn't missing something in your answer. :) regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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            • P Paul Watson

              Chaps, a programming question. Versioning. Is it:

              1. Major. Minor. Revision. Build
              2. Major. Minor. Build. Revision

              and why? I've always put build last and it literally just counts the numer of builds. Revision to me is for minor bug fixes and is a developer set number (unlike build.) So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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              leppie
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              Doesnt anyone really care? ;P xacc.ide-0.1 released! Download and screenshots -- modified at 13:27 Monday 5th December, 2005

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              • P Paul Watson

                Chaps, a programming question. Versioning. Is it:

                1. Major. Minor. Revision. Build
                2. Major. Minor. Build. Revision

                and why? I've always put build last and it literally just counts the numer of builds. Revision to me is for minor bug fixes and is a developer set number (unlike build.) So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                i use buildNumber.major.minor.revision because the buildnumber is the most significant piece of information.

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                  i use buildNumber.major.minor.revision because the buildnumber is the most significant piece of information.

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                  Paul Watson
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                  To whom? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    To whom? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    to everyone. Lets face it: the build number *IS* the version number. the major.minor.revision is just marketing fluff.

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                      to everyone. Lets face it: the build number *IS* the version number. the major.minor.revision is just marketing fluff.

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                      I think if I told my mum that I was using Windows XP 2600 she'd have a heart-attack as she'd worry she was only on Windows XP 1. Build numbers are not for normal folk, just us geeks. Remember; we geeks are few. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        Doesnt anyone really care? ;P xacc.ide-0.1 released! Download and screenshots -- modified at 13:27 Monday 5th December, 2005

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                        Paul Watson
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                        Yeah, sadly, we have to. It is important for bug tracking and client deployments. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          I think if I told my mum that I was using Windows XP 2600 she'd have a heart-attack as she'd worry she was only on Windows XP 1. Build numbers are not for normal folk, just us geeks. Remember; we geeks are few. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          exactly my point. it's only us geeks who need the version info anyway. and to us the build # is most important. the major.minor.revision is for the "public" -- that makes it marketing fluff.

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                            I think if I told my mum that I was using Windows XP 2600 she'd have a heart-attack as she'd worry she was only on Windows XP 1. Build numbers are not for normal folk, just us geeks. Remember; we geeks are few. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                            Chris Losinger
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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            Remember; we geeks are few

                            but we are strong[^] Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                              exactly my point. it's only us geeks who need the version info anyway. and to us the build # is most important. the major.minor.revision is for the "public" -- that makes it marketing fluff.

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                              Paul Watson
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                              Marketing isn't fluff. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                Marketing isn't fluff. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                Marketing isn't fluff.

                                Something too many "geeks" seem to not get at all...


                                Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                • C Chris Losinger

                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Remember; we geeks are few

                                  but we are strong[^] Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  :laugh: Nice one regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    Marketing isn't fluff. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    Rob Graham
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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    Marketing isn't fluff.

                                    No, it has a much stronger odor. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power Eric Hoffer All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke

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                                    • C Chris Losinger

                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      Remember; we geeks are few

                                      but we are strong[^] Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                      :-D Nice one, Chris.


                                      Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                      • P Paul Watson

                                        Chaps, a programming question. Versioning. Is it:

                                        1. Major. Minor. Revision. Build
                                        2. Major. Minor. Build. Revision

                                        and why? I've always put build last and it literally just counts the numer of builds. Revision to me is for minor bug fixes and is a developer set number (unlike build.) So why does .NET 2.0 and other systems put Build before Revision? regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                        Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                        We use Major. Minor. Revision. Build. Build numbers are incremental and unique across all versions of a product, so if someone asks about "Build x" we know exactly which one it is (no "is it 1.0.2.x you mean, of 1.1.0.x?"). The Revision field is only incremented for public releases. So, now that we've just publicly released Visual Lint 1.0.0.40, the next public release will be a 1.0.1.x, which internal development carries on with the next version - 1.1.0.x. That scheme worked well enough at Sonardyne for a team of 10 that its more than good enough for us in our present embryonic state! :laugh: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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