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  • D David Stone

    Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


    And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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    FWIW, I was never able to successfully compile my multi-project solution until the RC. It could never get the project dependency tree right until then. So other than playing with it for about 30 minutes, the betas all went into the big bit bucket in the ground. Marc VS2005 Tips & Tricks -- contributions welcome!

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    • D David Stone

      Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


      And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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      Colin Angus Mackay
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      David Stone wrote:

      Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005?

      I installed beta 1 way back. Then I realised I was getting really irritated with not being able to use it for work projects so I stopped. Now that it has been released I installed the final release. I have to say that, other than MSDN taking ages to load, I haven't found any real problems.


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      • D David Stone

        Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


        And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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        Chris Losinger
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        i was unable to get the Beta to install. i'm still waiting for CP to start selling it so i can get a real copy. apparently, i'm the only person in the world who hasn't seen it in operation yet. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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        • C Chris Losinger

          i was unable to get the Beta to install. i'm still waiting for CP to start selling it so i can get a real copy. apparently, i'm the only person in the world who hasn't seen it in operation yet. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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          Alex Orovetskiy
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          I really really really suggest "try before you buy" approach here especially if you're on 2k3 now. -------------------------------- Human stupidity is infinite.

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          • A Alex Orovetskiy

            I really really really suggest "try before you buy" approach here especially if you're on 2k3 now. -------------------------------- Human stupidity is infinite.

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            Chris Losinger
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            i don't have much choice... i need it in order to build VS05-compatible versions of the libraries my company sells. i'll probably stick with VC6 for the actual development of the library, though. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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            • D David Stone

              Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


              And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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              Lost User
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              I installed (and am still using) the final RC that my boss came back from the US PDC with. I use it for one project at the moment - a WTL-based PocketPC app. First impressions are mostly favourable, but I've yet to hammer it. I converted a large-ish server application (ATL/STL/Boost based) as an experiment, and had awful problems with IntelliSense working one minute, and stopping the next, which I hope has been fixed. I should get a proper release version any day now, as part of my company's December MSDN mailling. I could download it I guess, but am happy to wait (I finish for Christmas on Friday, so will probably wait until the New Year now).


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              • C Chris Losinger

                i don't have much choice... i need it in order to build VS05-compatible versions of the libraries my company sells. i'll probably stick with VC6 for the actual development of the library, though. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                You can get the Express Edition for free, just in case you hadn't heard. But you are probably looking for some of the advanced functionality...

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                • D David Stone

                  Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


                  And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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                  I have the beta at work, but didn't even fir it up till today. We're waiting on our Pro licenses to arrive. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  • D David Stone

                    Are those of you who are making all these VS 2005 posts just now installing VS2005? Did you guys play with the betas or RCs at all...or is this your first exposure?


                    And that's not all. I just discovered this cool concept called "object oriented design". I can't wait to convert my subroutines to class methods! :-D -Ravi Bhavnani on finally installing XP SP2...in December 2005

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                    Is there a resource that discusses what can co-exist with what? IDEs: VB6 Sp5? VS 2003, and VS 2005? AND Run Times: VB6 Runtime, .Net Framework 1.1, and .Net Framework 2.0? I have heard that .Net 1.1 and .Net 2.0 side-by-sides without issue, and I have heard there is a plugin that will allow VS 2005 to compile into .Net 1.1, are these rumors true? And the survey says: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms246609.aspx[^] do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company -- modified at 20:14 Monday 12th December, 2005

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                    • D David ONeil

                      You can get the Express Edition for free, just in case you hadn't heard. But you are probably looking for some of the advanced functionality...

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                      Francesco Aruta
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                      David O`Neil wrote:

                      You can get the Express Edition for free, just in case you hadn't heard. But you are probably looking for some of the advanced functionality...

                      I'm using it just to try new IDE and new MSDN... ;) Well.. I starded to develop with asp .net because I found visual web developer really nice :) Pity is that C++ express edition doesn't come with MFC: this mean that I must buy visual studio standard or professional.. but just for "playing" with C# or asp .net is a nice choice... Francesco TBEditor: a pandapowered app!

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                      • F Francesco Aruta

                        David O`Neil wrote:

                        You can get the Express Edition for free, just in case you hadn't heard. But you are probably looking for some of the advanced functionality...

                        I'm using it just to try new IDE and new MSDN... ;) Well.. I starded to develop with asp .net because I found visual web developer really nice :) Pity is that C++ express edition doesn't come with MFC: this mean that I must buy visual studio standard or professional.. but just for "playing" with C# or asp .net is a nice choice... Francesco TBEditor: a pandapowered app!

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                        Francesco Aruta wrote:

                        Pity is that C++ express edition doesn't come with MFC...

                        I believe you can use MFC with the Express Edition if you want. MFC comes with the Windows SDK that Express points you to when you follow its links to download the SDK. I found MFC42.lib and include headers, so I think all you have to do is set your project settings manually... No auto setup, unless you can hack the XML sources... Others will have to comment more, as I have never used MFC. It sure looks possible, though. David

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                        • J Jason McBurney

                          Is there a resource that discusses what can co-exist with what? IDEs: VB6 Sp5? VS 2003, and VS 2005? AND Run Times: VB6 Runtime, .Net Framework 1.1, and .Net Framework 2.0? I have heard that .Net 1.1 and .Net 2.0 side-by-sides without issue, and I have heard there is a plugin that will allow VS 2005 to compile into .Net 1.1, are these rumors true? And the survey says: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms246609.aspx[^] do you need to investigate an online backup[^] company -- modified at 20:14 Monday 12th December, 2005

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                          J Dunlap
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                          Jason McBurney wrote:

                          IDEs: VB6 Sp5? VS 2003, and VS 2005? AND Run Times: VB6 Runtime, .Net Framework 1.1, and .Net Framework 2.0?I have heard that .Net 1.1 and .Net 2.0 side-by-sides without issue, and I have heard there is a plugin that will allow VS 2005 to compile into .Net 1.1, are these rumors true?

                          All .NET runtimes can co-exist with each other and with the VB6 runtime. If they couldn't, I would consider .NET to be very poorly implemented. Imagine the nightmare if it were not so, and someone installed an application based on .NET 1.1, one based on .NET 2.0, and one written in VB6. The poor user would have to choose which application he wanted to use, and would not be able to use the others. All of the release VS versions are also compatible with each other. You can do an MSBuild compile to .NET 1.1 from VS2005.

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