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  • P Peter Reiter

    Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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    Steve Mayfield
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    California Polytechnic University, Pomona (Southern California) CPU (really) did not have a Computer Science degree program when I started - I went thru the Electronics Engineering (with emphasis in Digital Electronics) and Mathematics (with emphasis in Numerical Analysis/Computer Solutions) degree programs - a Computer Science degree was added the year I graduated - but the University had offered all of the CS classes while I was going to school (which I took in addition to all of the required courses for my double major) in preparing for the addition of the CS degree. The combination of EE and CS has been extremely helpful in the areas I have worked (mostly real time data acquisition and analysis - embedded systems as well as desktop machines). I also took several Business courses including Accounting, Finance and Small Business Administration - which helped in getting a good overall understanding of how companies really work. Steve

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    • P Peter Reiter

      Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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      Member 96
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      I make a *very* good living as a self employed full time developer. Peter Reiter wrote: Where did you study and what subjects did you study? Years ago I went to a placed called "control data institute" which no longer exists but is one of those supposed equivalent to college degrees. They taught me next to nothing though I got good grades, after which I have kept myself self-taught since. I did get a Novell Netware CNE on the side years ago, but that's pretty useless knowledge now. If you are of entrepeneurial spirit there is little or no need for a formal education in computer programming, if your not then my advice is completely useless and should be ignored at all costs!;)


      There is much to be said in favor of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community. - Oscar Wilde

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      • P Peter Reiter

        Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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        Christian Graus
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        I studied C++ and MFC on the computer at the end of the hall. Christian I have drunk the cool-aid and found it wan and bitter. - Chris Maunder

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        • P Peter Reiter

          Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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          Rick York
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          I went to Oregon State University and studied Electronics Engineering. We had several courses that required programming like digital signal analysis and computer architecture but the only CS course I had was self-study Fortran. Ever since then has been on-the-job training or after hours hacking. __________________________________________ a two cent stamp short of going postal.

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          • P Peter Reiter

            Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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            Antony M Kancidrowski
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            Lancaster University, UK. BEng (Hons) Information Engineering i.e. Computer Science and Electronic Engineering combined major. Most University courses do not lead directly to a programming job. They do however help as most selection criteria is based around a CV that requires a degree these days. Ant.

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            • P Peter Reiter

              Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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              Farhan Noor Qureshi
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              4 years Bachelor of Engineering Degree from N.E.D. University of Engineering & Technology in Karachi Pakistan. First and Second year were boring like h3ll, third year got interesting with Algorithms, data strutures, C/C++, Computer Architecture, Logic Circuits etc and the final year was easy like a sweet dream. I am the opposite of a book worm, I try, I fall, I get up and I achieve. I guess thats why I am a Software Engineer. Farhan Noor Qureshi

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              • P Peter Reiter

                Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                Maxwell Chen
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                I joined a 4-month course of N.I.I.[^] held by the government in Oct. 1998. The 1st month for WinNT4 server/wrkstation setup, the 2nd month for C-89 with Turbo C++ 3, the 3rd and 4th months for database management and VB. I wasn't and still ain't interested in VB so I did not attend the VB course, rather I bought C++/MFC books for self-taught. The course ended on Feb 1st, 1999. One month later I got my 1st job as a software engineer using C to code DLLs in Win32 SDK for automatic warehouses. I was still studying hard and kept reading C++ books during that time... I mainly learned all the features of ISO C++ during my 1st job. Maxwell Chen

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                • P Peter Reiter

                  Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                  brianwelsch
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                  Turbo Pascal, Fortran, and BASIC in High School Spartanburg Technical College - AS in Computer Technology. RPG/400, COBOL mostly. X| Some C++ courses at University of South Carolina Taught myself MFC & Perl, Javascript, HTML, Worked with MAGIC & BTrieve, then briefly Progress, and now I program in Assembly, and it looks like I may be learning VB and SQL before the year is up. BW CP Member Homepages


                  "Who is the strongest, who is the best
                  Who holds the aces, the East or the West
                  This is the crap our children are learning"

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                  • P Peter Reiter

                    Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                    Roger Wright
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                    I read a book on FORTRAN II between high school and college, then had to take a class in it at Cal Poly, Pomona, as part of my electronics engineering degree program. I picked up 8080 Assembly, BASIC, GDBASIC, HPBASIC, Ada, hpl, Jovial, ATLAS, and a few other languages on the job, as every assignment required a new language and a new operating system. On my own time I played with Turbo Pascal, Prolog, PAL, Java, VB, C++, and a variety of scripting languages, none of which I do really well at, but I have fun and can get a task done with them. It matters far less what school you attend than what you do with what you're taught. A lot of schools will give you a good, well-recognized degree, but leave you helpless to do any actual work. I hired a bunch of UCLA, Stanford, and other big-name school graduates in my time, and all were fairly useless until I trained them in the real world. Good students from less well known schools who took advantage of the opportunity offered them, rather than just following the basic curriculum, were far more useful. Apply what you learn, wherever you go, to real world applications; don't just turn in assignments. Academecians don't live in the real world, and will not give you any experience of value. Code, code, code - every idea that comes to you while you're learning, turn into a working app. Then after some time reflecting on your work, improve it. Learn to spot your own errors before someone else does, and take heed of your own errors; learn from your mistakes. No one learns by doing it right the first time. I've felt much better since I gave up hope.

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                    • P Peter Reiter

                      Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                      Paul Watson
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                      The school of life works best. I started aged 13 and never looked back from there. Try things yourself, don't wait for a lecturer to hand you a book to learn. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                        The school of life works best. I started aged 13 and never looked back from there. Try things yourself, don't wait for a lecturer to hand you a book to learn. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Christopher Duncan quoted: "...that would require my explaining Einstein's Fear of Relatives" Crikey! ain't life grand? Einstein says...

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                        Senkwe Chanda
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                        hehe, Paul you know that's bad advice. Just to prove it to you, I'm quitting my job and becoming a blues guitar player :-D If I fail, I'm hunting you down! Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog

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                        • P Peter Reiter

                          Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                          Roger Allen
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                          4-year Computer science (HONS) sandwich course at University of Teesside UK I concentrated on hardware units in my final year. Before that I was completely self taught - actually I probably am still self taught :laugh: Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.

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                          • P Peter Reiter

                            Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                            Mike Dimmick
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                            Aston University[^] (Birmingham, UK). I initially enrolled to study [MEng Electronic Systems Engineering](http://MEng Electronic Systems Engineering)[[^](http://MEng Electronic Systems Engineering "New Window")], of which I completed two years. In the third year I missed a whole load of lectures due to being ill, lazy and too involved in outside activities. On the morning of the first exam I went to my professor and basically said 'I can't do any of these exams'. The department opted to let me re-sit the year. Over that summer I did a lot of thinking about what had gone wrong, what had gone right and what I really wanted to do with my career. I came to the conclusion that I had done better in, and preferred, the computing courses to the electronics courses, particularly the quantum physics involved in semiconductors and optical electronics. So I asked for a transfer to BSc Computing Science[^]. They agreed that the material I'd already covered on ESE (some of which were final year CS courses!) covered the first year, so I was transferred to the second year. I ended up with a 2:2 (Lower Second Class Honours) BSc in Computing Science, taking five years to get a three-year degree. However, I did understand some courses better the second time around: I ended up getting two doses of C, C++, Operating Systems, Formal Software Development and Legal and Professional Aspects of Computing. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder

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                            • P Peter Reiter

                              Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                              Jonathan de Halleux
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                              - Engineer in Applied Mathematics ( UCl, http://www.ucl.ac.be/[^] ) - Finishing Phd Doctorate in the same university of Stabilization of the quasilinear hyperbolic systems. ps: I'm teaching C/C++ to third year students :) Jonathan de Halleux - www.dotnetwiki.org - MbUnit - QuickGraph

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                              • P Peter Reiter

                                Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                                Chris Meech
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                                Queens University in Kingston, Ontario. I earned a BSc in Mining Engineering, but all my jobs involved instrumentation and computers. I eventually attended what was then called The Honeywell Institute for Computer Studies and have been doing software exclusively since then. Oh, btw, that's over twenty years ago, since it may not be as relevant as a career path now. Like others have mentioned, I eventually learned C, C++, and SQL along the way. That's my mainstay for now. :) Chris Meech We're more like a hobbiest in a Home Depot drooling at all the shiny power tools, rather than a craftsman that makes the chair to an exacting level of comfort by measuring the customer's butt. Marc Clifton VB is like a toolbox, in the hands of a craftsman, you can end up with some amazing stuff, but without the skills to use it right you end up with Homer Simpson's attempt at building a barbeque or his attempt at a Spice rack. Michael P. Butler

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                                  I read a book on FORTRAN II between high school and college, then had to take a class in it at Cal Poly, Pomona, as part of my electronics engineering degree program. I picked up 8080 Assembly, BASIC, GDBASIC, HPBASIC, Ada, hpl, Jovial, ATLAS, and a few other languages on the job, as every assignment required a new language and a new operating system. On my own time I played with Turbo Pascal, Prolog, PAL, Java, VB, C++, and a variety of scripting languages, none of which I do really well at, but I have fun and can get a task done with them. It matters far less what school you attend than what you do with what you're taught. A lot of schools will give you a good, well-recognized degree, but leave you helpless to do any actual work. I hired a bunch of UCLA, Stanford, and other big-name school graduates in my time, and all were fairly useless until I trained them in the real world. Good students from less well known schools who took advantage of the opportunity offered them, rather than just following the basic curriculum, were far more useful. Apply what you learn, wherever you go, to real world applications; don't just turn in assignments. Academecians don't live in the real world, and will not give you any experience of value. Code, code, code - every idea that comes to you while you're learning, turn into a working app. Then after some time reflecting on your work, improve it. Learn to spot your own errors before someone else does, and take heed of your own errors; learn from your mistakes. No one learns by doing it right the first time. I've felt much better since I gave up hope.

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                                  Roger Wright wrote: Code, code, code one of my professors used to write ABP on the board from time to time. It was his motto, and meant "Always Be Programming". It's easy to say yeah, whatever, I understand the material, but until you've applied a concept several times, you won't really grok it. BW CP Member Homepages


                                  "Who is the strongest, who is the best
                                  Who holds the aces, the East or the West
                                  This is the crap our children are learning"

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                                    4-year Computer science (HONS) sandwich course at University of Teesside UK I concentrated on hardware units in my final year. Before that I was completely self taught - actually I probably am still self taught :laugh: Roger Allen - Sonork 100.10016 Strong Sad: Clever I am? Next to no one. Undiscovered and soggy. Look up. Look down. They're around. Probably laughing. Still, bright, watery. Listed among the top. Ten. Nine. Late night. Early morn. Early mourn. Now I sleep.

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                                    brianwelsch
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                                    Roger Allen wrote: 4-year Computer science Roger Allen wrote: sandwich course I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. :confused: BW CP Member Homepages


                                    "Who is the strongest, who is the best
                                    Who holds the aces, the East or the West
                                    This is the crap our children are learning"

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                                    • P Peter Reiter

                                      Hi this question primary applies to professional software engineers and to those who want to become one Where did you study and what subjects did you study? I want to know that because i also want to become a software engineer / software architect and don't know any good university thanks, your information will really help me deciding about my future

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                                      Peter Reiter wrote: Where did you study and what subjects did you study? Not that it will help decide anything about your future, but since you asked...I earned a CS degree from each of these schools: http://www.eosc.cc.ok.us/ http://www.ecok.edu/ http://osu.okstate.edu/


                                      "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                                        Roger Allen wrote: 4-year Computer science Roger Allen wrote: sandwich course I fail to understand how learning the proper methodology to layering lunch meats will improve your coding skills. :confused: BW CP Member Homepages


                                        "Who is the strongest, who is the best
                                        Who holds the aces, the East or the West
                                        This is the crap our children are learning"

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                                        David Crow
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                                        If the pastrami and bologna are not aligned on even bytes, indigestion can ensue, resulting in too much time driving the porcelain bus, and ultimately not being able to code for the remainder of the day. How's that?


                                        "The pointy end goes in the other man." - Antonio Banderas (Zorro, 1998)

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                                        • S Senkwe Chanda

                                          hehe, Paul you know that's bad advice. Just to prove it to you, I'm quitting my job and becoming a blues guitar player :-D If I fail, I'm hunting you down! Woke up this morning...and got myself a blog

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                                          Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                          :laugh: Ant.

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