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  • M Mario M

    I don't have anything against a good solution for software pircay, but useless key activations does not make sense. With this activation thing microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database to make better decisions based on statistical information from this database. P.S. I don't want M$ to use my information to track/log my hotmail.com, Windows, Office and surfing usage...:eek:

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    microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database...... You have to Activate windows XP, not register it. I have activated WinXP RC1, but MS don't know who I am... What data did you say they wanted to use??? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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      WPA is designed to stop casual copying. Anybody who really wants to get around it can do, but it requires a fair bit of effort on his or her behalf. If you are willing to download something like Windows XP or the full CD set for Office XP, or you are going to mass-burn the software for sale down at your local market, WPA is only going to be a nuisance, nothing more. But it will still cause problems. Remember what happened when Office 2000 and Windows 2000 keys started appearing on the net? Microsoft released SP1 for the respective product, and all the little kiddies who’d downloaded it found their illegal copies of the software suddenly deactivating and they wouldn’t run. You can be sure to expect the same with XP. Warez isn’t worth the trouble in the long run. they will just annoy customers with this activation. What I always find funny is that all the newgroups, etc, are filling up with messages like: This Microsoft Activation thingy is f**king sh*t. NOW I CAN’T INSTALL IT ON ALL MY PC’s!!!!!! They are just trying to steal MY money!!!!! Damn you M$. I’ve given up informing these people that they are actually required by law to do so anyway as they wont accept it. It’s like all the college kids have law degrees. I have yet to hear a complaint from a legitimate user. I trialed WPA with Office 2000 - it is not a nuisance at all. And OEM vendors who hard load Windows XP or Office XP onto their machines are liable for hefty fines and prison sentences. Microsoft will now be able to crack down on OEM vendors more efficiently as they will know if they have activated the software, and if so how many licenses have been issued. Prepare to see lots more news articles about OEM vendors using unlicensed software being brought to justice. Lots more. - David Wulff P.S. AFAIK, WPA was not cracked for Office XP or Windows XP RC1. All of the so-called ‘cracks’ simply replace the encrypted data file (the one containing the system info, etc) with a copy generated by a machine activated with the Enterprise key. Saying that is cracking is like saying you cracked a safe when you had the code. P.P.S. I don’t intend to imply anything about your use of the software in question with this response – I leave that to the reader to decide.

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      Anders Molin
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      Hi David, Great to hear someone who's not in paranoia mode :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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      • M Mario M

        I don't have anything against a good solution for software pircay, but useless key activations does not make sense. With this activation thing microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database to make better decisions based on statistical information from this database. P.S. I don't want M$ to use my information to track/log my hotmail.com, Windows, Office and surfing usage...:eek:

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        David Wulff
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        They can't and they wont. If they did they would be effectively commiting suicide (not even Uncle Billy is that stupid). David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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        • A Anders Molin

          Hi David, Great to hear someone who's not in paranoia mode :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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          I am just so fed up with all this misinformation flooding the net. I know I haven't got all of the details, but speaking from experience and what I do know (or have heard from reliable sources), WPA is the illegitimate users enemy - and nothing to worry about for the legitimate users out there (all three of us :)). Of course, this doesn’t mean I have to like Windows XP. To me it looks like Microsoft have been reading AOL’s marketing strategies... I'm just waiting for the ginger haired cybernetic woman to appear on the TV :-D. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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          • A Anders Molin

            microsoft wants to collect it's customers information in it's database...... You have to Activate windows XP, not register it. I have activated WinXP RC1, but MS don't know who I am... What data did you say they wanted to use??? - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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            David Wulff
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            You have to Activate windows XP, not register it That is the biggest problem Microsoft will have to face. So many of it's current customers, and potential customers, don't understand the difference between anonymous activation and non-anonymous registration (last time I checked you only had to give your name and country anyway - hardly an invasion of privacy). I suppose the fact they both end in "tion" confuses all those poor AOL users people who don't have access to a dictionary. Poor Microsoft - they damned if they do, damned if they don't :rolleyes:. David Wulff dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com

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            • A Anders Molin

              If you are using XP RC1, you should go to Windows Update, there's an update that handle some performance problems :) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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              Ed Dixon
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              Currently running the most recent update that arrived a few days ago in CD form. From the start, XP has booted and run slower here than Win2K. Not sure why, just know it have been consistent in this area. Ed

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              • A Anders Molin

                Today I did it. I installed WinXP RC1 on my workstation at home :cool: I have to say it's kinda different, and I still don't know if I like it, but I guess time will tell. Anybody else out there that have tried (or use) WinXP? About the activation stuff: The first time I booted WinXP, I was told I needed to activate it. Okay I thought, I have tried this at work with Beta 2, and it took about 2 seconds. I clicked next a couple of times, and waited about 2 minutes. No connection to MS :( Later tonight I tried a couple of times with the same result. At 9pm friday night I thought, let's see if I can activate by phone right now, just for the "fun" of it. I actually talked to a very nice lady, gave her a loooong number, and got an almost as long number in return, and it just worked :) People can say what they want, but to me it seems MS is making an effort to make it easy to activate WinXP (or maybe I was just lucky) ;) - Anders Money talks, but all mine ever says is "Goodbye!"

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                Steven Hicks n 1
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                • E Ed Dixon

                  Have had it here for quite a while. Impressions: 1. Slow 2. Cutsy interface harder to use than standard Win2K 3. Hate default colors Mike Dunn said it well on the color/interface front. "Reminds one of Fisher Price toys..." Ed

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                  Steven Mitcham
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                  For my computer at least (500AMDK6 128MB) XP RC1 is the smoothest operating Microsoft OS I have ever run on it. I get great speed, much faster than ME and 2K that I had run in the past, also there is noticably less disk thrashing. It also boots up a whole lot faster. My only problem so far is that Quicktime 5.0 won't run inplace in IE 6. Not crippling, but I never got to see the Password Bra add on adcritic.:-D When religion and politics help drive the same cart, they tend to drive faster and faster until it is too late to stop when they see the cliff ahead -- Frank Herbert.

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