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Allen Anderson wrote: Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot. Well, what if these small companies are the ones who created something valuable, and the bigger companies stole it?
in software (which is what I'm speaking of here), if your position is that without patent protection, then nothing would be innovated.... well your sorta on your own on that one. Remember, patents weren't created for some esoteric social good. They were created so that companies would innovate in high barrier to entry fields (like hard core hardware). I'm saying that in software and in business practices, I think patents are doing infinitely more harm than good.
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Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:
Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:
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Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:
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If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October!
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Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:
Hurry up, please someone patent 1s and 0s. :D Farhan Noor Qureshi
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If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October!
Larry Antram wrote: If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October! The article I read indicated that was October 2006 :eek:
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Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:
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Heath Stewart wrote: they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire Actually, they've been trying to milk this thing since 2002 when Sony agreed to pay like $30 million.
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Here is a free JPEG compression library from the Independent JPEG Group. http://www.ijg.org/[^] Ant.
the fact that JpegLib is "free" is irrelevant to the patent. if the patent holds for JPEG then anyone who uses an unlicened JPEG codec is in violation of the patent. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:
The EFF has just kicked off their Patent Busting Project, and it deserves your support. See http://www.eff.org/Patent/ They are seeking to invalidate: # One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) # Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) # The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) # Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) # Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) # Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) # Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and # Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.)
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the fact that JpegLib is "free" is irrelevant to the patent. if the patent holds for JPEG then anyone who uses an unlicened JPEG codec is in violation of the patent. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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Larry Antram wrote: If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October! The article I read indicated that was October 2006 :eek:
The patent I read on USPTO said it was filed Oct. 6, 1987. Patents are only good for 17 years.
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The EFF has just kicked off their Patent Busting Project, and it deserves your support. See http://www.eff.org/Patent/ They are seeking to invalidate: # One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) # Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) # The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) # Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) # Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) # Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) # Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and # Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.)
# Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.
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# Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.
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andy brummer wrote: # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged. Agreed. Get rid of the other patents but keep these. The more expensive it is to use these the better. John Carson "I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true." - Bertrand Russell
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that seems right. as soon as the troublesome GIF/LZW patent expires worldwide (July), a new one pops up to take its place. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer
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Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:
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they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)
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# Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.
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Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:
I try and just use the png format. :) I am the handsome one in the crowd.
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Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:
Oooh look forgent give out a phone number on their website - I think we should all phone them up and tell them how we feel! Joel Holdsworth
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next up for patents. 'company sues people who breathe, claim their patent for mole remover devices covers inhaling and exhaling'. I realize patents are to protect intellectual property, but frankly I'm becoming more of a mind that software and business practice patents in general should just be done away with completely. Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot.
Copyright is to protect intellectual property. Patents are to protect Big companys and/or peoples/entities with lots of money for patent and lawyer fees. Software patents sucks. Patenting Software is like patenting a way to wear a t-shirt or a way to sit on a toilet. -
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they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenWow :omg:. I thought I was the grammar dilettante around here.
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IIRC this covers *any* popup window (like that "thanks for your vote" one on CP), not just automatic ones.
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mlog || Agile Programming | doxygenYeah, I know but I just went for my knee jerk reaction on that one, and I use mozilla in tab mode anyway, so technically the windows don't "pop-up". The last place I worked the business loved popup windows. I think because everything sounded less hard and or complicated if they said it's just a pop-up.:mad: I wonder if this patent applies to dialog boxes as well.:omg:
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