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  • D David Patrick

    Larry Antram wrote: If that's the case, then good riddance - at least it will only last until October! The article I read indicated that was October 2006 :eek:

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    Heath Stewart
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    The patent I read on USPTO said it was filed Oct. 6, 1987. Patents are only good for 17 years.

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    • S Steven Campbell

      The EFF has just kicked off their Patent Busting Project, and it deserves your support. See http://www.eff.org/Patent/ They are seeking to invalidate: # One-click online shopping (U.S. Patent No. 5,960,411.) # Online shopping carts (U.S. Patent No. 5,715,314.) # The hyperlink (U.S. Patent No. 4,873,662.) # Video streaming (U.S. Patent No. 5,132,992.) # Internationalizing domain names (U.S. Patent No. 6,182,148.) # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) # Paying with a credit card online (U.S. Patent No. 6,289,319.) # Framed browsing; (U.S. Patent Nos. 5,933,841 & 6,442,574.) and # Affiliate linking (U.S. Patent No. 6,029,141.)

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      # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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      • A Andy Brummer

        # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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        John Carson
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        andy brummer wrote: # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged. Agreed. Get rid of the other patents but keep these. The more expensive it is to use these the better. John Carson "I wish to propose for the reader's favourable consideration a doctrine which may, I fear, appear wildly paradoxical and subversive. The doctrine in question is this: that it is undesirable to believe a proposition when there is no ground whatever for supposing it true." - Bertrand Russell

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        • C Chris Losinger

          that seems right. as soon as the troublesome GIF/LZW patent expires worldwide (July), a new one pops up to take its place. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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          peterchen
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          exactly my thought - "at least we can add GIF support in june"....


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          • H Heath Stewart

            Figures - they haven't really done much since '87 when the patent was granted, but now only months away (October) from having said patent expire, they think, "Hey! We can make some quick, easy cash like everyone else these days. Better hurry!" Remember when companies and other organizations used to sell goods and services to make money? :rolleyes:

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            peterchen
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            they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)


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            • A Andy Brummer

              # Pop-up windows (U.S. Patent No. 6,389,458.) # Targeted banner ads (U.S. Patent No. 6,026,368.) Anybody who uses these should be charged.


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              peterchen
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              IIRC this covers *any* popup window (like that "thanks for your vote" one on CP), not just automatic ones.


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              • L Larry Antram

                Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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                Franz Klein
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                I try and just use the png format. :) I am the handsome one in the crowd.

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                • L Larry Antram

                  Forgent Networks has launched a patent infringement lawsuit against 31 major computer and electronics vendors, seeking damages related to its claim to the technology underlying the widespread JPEG file format. http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-5198582.html[^] :mad:

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                  Joel Holdsworth
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                  Oooh look forgent give out a phone number on their website - I think we should all phone them up and tell them how we feel! Joel Holdsworth

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                  • A Allen Anderson

                    next up for patents. 'company sues people who breathe, claim their patent for mole remover devices covers inhaling and exhaling'. I realize patents are to protect intellectual property, but frankly I'm becoming more of a mind that software and business practice patents in general should just be done away with completely. Any time someone creates something valuable these days, some little known company that never contributed anything to society comes up with some outrageous patent claims to try and hit the jackpot.

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                    Joerg Wiedenmann
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                    Copyright is to protect intellectual property. Patents are to protect Big companys and/or peoples/entities with lots of money for patent and lawyer fees. Software patents sucks. Patenting Software is like patenting a way to wear a t-shirt or a way to sit on a toilet. -

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                    • P peterchen

                      they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)


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                      Gary R Wheeler
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                      Wow :omg:. I thought I was the grammar dilettante around here.


                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • P peterchen

                        IIRC this covers *any* popup window (like that "thanks for your vote" one on CP), not just automatic ones.


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                        Andy Brummer
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                        Yeah, I know but I just went for my knee jerk reaction on that one, and I use mozilla in tab mode anyway, so technically the windows don't "pop-up". The last place I worked the business loved popup windows. I think because everything sounded less hard and or complicated if they said it's just a pop-up.:mad: I wonder if this patent applies to dialog boxes as well.:omg:


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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          the fact that JpegLib is "free" is irrelevant to the patent. if the patent holds for JPEG then anyone who uses an unlicened JPEG codec is in violation of the patent. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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                          Antony M Kancidrowski
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                          So you are saying that the JFIF format is also patented? :confused: This being the case it would suggest you can hardly do any programming without some sort of infingement! Ant.

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                            they used to makegoods to earn money, and provide services to outdo the competition. (or simply because a superior product made them proud) :cool: (we definitely need an "grandpa" smiley...)


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                            Heath Stewart
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                            You're about 5 years older than me, so quit the antagonistic agist crap.

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                            • H Heath Stewart

                              You're about 5 years older than me, so quit the antagonistic agist crap.

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                              peterchen
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                              Who made you the protagonist? ;P


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                              • G Gary R Wheeler

                                Wow :omg:. I thought I was the grammar dilettante around here.


                                Software Zen: delete this;

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                                Heath Stewart
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                                Yeah, some grammer. He uses neither correct punctuation, capitalization, nor hyphens for "out-do".

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                                • A Antony M Kancidrowski

                                  So you are saying that the JFIF format is also patented? :confused: This being the case it would suggest you can hardly do any programming without some sort of infingement! Ant.

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  Antony M Kancidrowski wrote: So you are saying that the JFIF format is also patented? no, AFAIK, the JFIF format isn't patented. the patent issues are with the techniques used in the JPEG de/compression system. Cleek | Losinger Designs | ClickPic | ThumbNailer

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