Desktop / Web Jobs
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Forgive the fact that I can't format my messages completely correctly here, Firefox doesn't rend CP all that well... The .NET stuff is interpreted code That's not the case, believe it or not, .NET was built from the beginning to be "just-in-time compiled" to native, it's never interpreted, unlike Java which is often a mix of interpreted code and hot spot just-in-time compilation. .NET apps should be and usually are JIT'ed at install time, which basically makes a native machine code image of the executable tailored to your particular hardware setup. The cross platform open source Mono implementation of the CLI spec also supports ahead-of-time compilation to native as an alternative or a complement of just-in-time to native compiling. That said, you are 100% dead on that .NET is geared for simplicity over performance. Given the increasing capabilities of hardware these days, the mess of VB6 and the complexity of using Win32, direct COM, MFC, ATL, et al, **I** personally prefer love, desire, delve into with wide open arms, refreshed by, can't get enough of, C# and .NET. :-) But... I can understand why the older die hard C guys choose otherwise, don't like the 'neutered' feel of .NET and miss the fine-grained low level control of C++. Judah Himango
Given the increasing capabilities of hardware these days If you sense a certain amount of cynicism amongst some of the "older" guys, or those of us who have seen all this before, keep in mind that for almost 10 years this has been the mantra of the Java folks for desktop apps! Always just add more hardware, a faster CPU, more memory. Well guess what, I have a 1Ghz CPU(and lets say that with just a tad of appreciation for how incredibly fast that is for most of the kind of processing you typically need to due), over 500MB of RAM and large scale Java GUI apps still suck ass in terms of performance to a regular Win32/MFC/ATL/VCF(hint, hint) app. And the Win32 platform is by and large the best platform they (Java apps) run on (don't even mention Solaris or *nix)! basically makes a native machine code image of the executable tailored to your particular hardware setup Ahh but the key phrase is basically. Sure this may be fine for simple little utility apps, or smaller games, or some little db front end you slap together for a business app. However, I suspect, being the utterly cynical, bitter bastard that I am, that this will not scale up. And if the way GCC optimizes things are any bench mark, then the linux version (if you choose to use mono) will be even slower and more bloated than it's Win32 counterpart. If Christopher is reporting problems like these with a (I'm just guessing here) reasonably simple application like a contact management program, how well is it going to do with stuff like word processors, imaging application's ala Photoshop or Illustrator, or large scale, sophisticated development IDE's? Just like VB, it (.Net) will have it's place. But just like VB (and Java for that matter) there are a lot areas where it falls flat on it's face. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned
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I know there has been a lot of discution about this subject but anyway i’ll ask. Do you think that right now there is the same amount or need of MFC/Desktop based development than before (say 3 years ago?) and that .Net/Web based development just adds for more jobs instead of subtracting the old ones.? Sorry for bring this overly talked subject; it’s the fear of extinction. :~ "I don't want to achieve immortality through my work... I want to achieve it through not dying." Woody Allen
What development platform and language to use has always been a per project decision in most cases. I see no reason for that to change anytime soon. .NET just supplies more choices not [the answer]. It really is that simple. As times change the number of criteria and considerations for projects increases. There is much more to consider and having more options for platform and language potentially makes that job easier. Attempting to predict what platform and languages will be used in your future projects with any accuracy is somewhat a waste of time. What to learn to add value to your own career in the future is easy, as much as you can! Sometimes your geographic location can play into that decision. If you have no desire to relocate and you can discover what the primary types of projects are in demand in your location that can help you determine what direction to study. Otherwise if your location has a wide variety or you might relocate then all bets are off. Andrey Del Pozo wrote: Desktop / Web Jobs As far as desktop vs. web apps. I don’t think web development will subside substantially. However it is possible that the use of desktop apps for client side internet (client/server) applications could increase in the next few years due to the desire for richer user interfaces than can be supplied in a browser. But, that's just my opinion... I could be wrong.
-pete
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Christopher Duncan wrote: in the immortal words of Captain Jack Sparrow, it's, "Drink up, me hearties, yo ho..." Probably the best ending of any movie I've seen. My 2-1/2 year old daughter recites that whole ending every night after brushing her teeth. She's too young for the whole movie but we've watched that last part about a million times. Now, bring me that horizon... Drew.
Drew Stainton wrote: Probably the best ending of any movie I've seen. Absolutely! The entire thing is one continuously fun romp, and the sound track is good enough to listen to in the car without the movie. In an age when it's hip to be dark and dismal, I found it quite rejuvinating. Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World