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    Navin
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    ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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      ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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      Two words. Rabbit stew. :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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        ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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        Navin wrote: So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... Get a big bag. Put the rabbits in. Go to a pet-store and find out if they'll buy them off you. You never know you might earn some bunny :-D I'd report it, one way or another the bunnies will end up dead. Dogs, cats, foxes and cars will see to that. At least with the humane society, they stand a chance. Michael CP Blog [^]

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          ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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          How about a fox?

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            ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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            They seem to be thriving where they are. Why report them and have them forced into squallid, cramped cages? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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              Two words. Rabbit stew. :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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              Navin
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              I was wondering if anyone would suggest Welsh Rabbit.. :-D And yes I know it's supposed to be Welsh Rarebit... :-D An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                They seem to be thriving where they are. Why report them and have them forced into squallid, cramped cages? "My kid was Inmate of the Month at Adobe Mountain Juvenile Corrections Center" - Bumper Sticker in Bullhead City

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                Depends on what you mean by "thrive". As Michael said... getting hit by cars is not exactly "thriving". And if they continue to multiply, I'm sure the situation would get out of hand quickly... feeding 20 rabbits is one thing, feeding 200 is another. But yes, what you say is my other concern. The ideal situation is they'd all get into good homes, and be neutered/spayed. But while conditions at the Humane Scoiety aren't *that* bad (I do volunteer there sometimes), a rabbit freely roaming and with food is probably better off than one in a cage, or euthenized. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                  Depends on what you mean by "thrive". As Michael said... getting hit by cars is not exactly "thriving". And if they continue to multiply, I'm sure the situation would get out of hand quickly... feeding 20 rabbits is one thing, feeding 200 is another. But yes, what you say is my other concern. The ideal situation is they'd all get into good homes, and be neutered/spayed. But while conditions at the Humane Scoiety aren't *that* bad (I do volunteer there sometimes), a rabbit freely roaming and with food is probably better off than one in a cage, or euthenized. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                  Navin wrote: or euthenized Er, that means killed, right? Like slaughtered, massacred, exterminated, that kind of thing? Dead is dead. Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. But then, I'm not politically correct... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                    ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                    domestic rabbit that get into the wild only take a couple generations to look just like the other wile rabbits in the area. (My sister raised rabbits) Rabbits are at the bottom of the food chain. They eat grass. Nearly everything else eats them. I'd let them be, the owls, hawks, and other birds in the area are getting a feast! Let nature have its way. If they are a problem rabbit is good eating.

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                      Navin wrote: or euthenized Er, that means killed, right? Like slaughtered, massacred, exterminated, that kind of thing? Dead is dead. Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. But then, I'm not politically correct... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                      Yes. Euthenized == dead. Of course, hit by a car generally equals dead, too. An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                        Navin wrote: So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... Get a big bag. Put the rabbits in. Go to a pet-store and find out if they'll buy them off you. You never know you might earn some bunny :-D I'd report it, one way or another the bunnies will end up dead. Dogs, cats, foxes and cars will see to that. At least with the humane society, they stand a chance. Michael CP Blog [^]

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                        Michael P Butler wrote: You never know you might earn some bunny. Now there's a hare brained scheme... :doh: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits!

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                          ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                          I'd say if the people living on that street haven't bothered to call, then no one is troubled by them. Leave it alone. Plus, it's neat for you to dive down a street covered in hare. (sorry about that) BW The Biggest Loser


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                            Navin wrote: or euthenized Er, that means killed, right? Like slaughtered, massacred, exterminated, that kind of thing? Dead is dead. Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. But then, I'm not politically correct... :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote: Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. It has nothing to do with PC. While the net result of both euthanasia and killing is to put an end to life, one is way more humane than the other. That is the difference.


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                              Michael P Butler wrote: You never know you might earn some bunny. Now there's a hare brained scheme... :doh: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits!

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                              Tim Deveaux wrote: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits! Reminds me of that VB programming rabbit.... Bugs Bunny. There were always a lot of holes in his code... but at least his software came with a warrenty. :-D Michael CP Blog [^]

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                                Christopher Duncan wrote: Never understood the need for these silly, politically correct phrases. It has nothing to do with PC. While the net result of both euthanasia and killing is to put an end to life, one is way more humane than the other. That is the difference.


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                                So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they?


                                "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Not getting the response you want from a question asked in an online forum: How to Ask Questions the Smart Way!

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                                  So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they?


                                  "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Not getting the response you want from a question asked in an online forum: How to Ask Questions the Smart Way!

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                                  Colin Angus Mackay wrote: So, the people on Death Row are euthenised, are they? I thought that was terminally rehabilitated? :~ X|


                                  Ian Darling The world is a thing of utter inordinate complexity ... that such complexity can arise ... out of such simplicity ... is the most fabulous extraordinary idea ... once you get some kind of inkling of how that might have happened - it's just wonderful ... the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life in such a universe is time well spent as far as I am concerned - Douglas Adams

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                                    ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Well, where I live there are hundred of wild rabbits running around all over the place. I occasionally see one squashed on the road, but they just keep on multiplying. If you go up to the Highlands of Scotland there are so many rabbits all over the place that for every 2 hours of driving you're going to hit one.


                                    "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell Not getting the response you want from a question asked in an online forum: How to Ask Questions the Smart Way!

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                                      ... but not related to software in any way. Just want a good cross-section of opinions here. :) There is a particular street that I happen upon occasionally.. maybe once or twice a month, and sometimes less... but anyhow, this street is always innundated with rabbits. Not the little brown wild rabbits, but the domestic-looking kind that you might find in a pet store. They aren't just in somebody's house, they are out roaming the streets.. and becuase of this, occasionally there is a squashed one in the road. I estimate there are maybe 20 or so rabbits. They appear to be fed (unclear whether they are being fed, or just eating grass and surviving on that.) They likely *aren't* neutered/spayed, as I've seen baby rabbits on occasion. They are moderatley skittish - you can approach them on foot, but once you get close to them they run away. I have no idea who, if anybody, officially owns these rabbits, although they tend to congregate around a certain house. There is a Humane Society here which handles animal control issues. They have raided houses in the past - for instance if somebody is hoarding 80 cats or something. The problem is that if they run out of room or money for housing animals, and can't adopt them out, or get them into temporary "foster" homes, they euthenize them. So the question - should I report this rabbit situation to the Humane Society? I'd be somewhat surprised if sonebody in that neighborhood hasn't already done so, but on the other hand, these rabbits have been there for several months.. maybe even a year... :~ An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less, until he knows absolutely everything about nothing.

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                                      I think they are one of the most rapidly reproducing creatures. I'd say let them be. They will expand their population to however much the environment can support. "One of the Georges," said Psmith, "I forget which, once said that a certain number of hours' sleep a day--I cannot recall for the moment how many--made a man something, which for the time being has slipped my memory."

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                                        Tim Deveaux wrote: ssshh - be vewy vewy qwiet... were punning wabbits! Reminds me of that VB programming rabbit.... Bugs Bunny. There were always a lot of holes in his code... but at least his software came with a warrenty. :-D Michael CP Blog [^]

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                                        Michael P Butler wrote: ...but at least his software came with a warrenty. Yep, a maze-ing! I hear they had some pretty what's up docs too... all ya gotta do is ask us to stop, folks...

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                                          Two words. Rabbit stew. :) Christopher Duncan Today's Corporate Battle Tactic Unite the Tribes: Ending Turf Wars for Career and Business Success The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World

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                                          I prefer hare pie ;) Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework

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