What interest do Ladies have in .Net
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I am an unofficial Microsoft .Net Evangelist, whose job is to put the efforts into the advancement of this smashing technology. In my routine work I came across many people who are architects, designers, application programmers, developers and testers, the equality among all of them is all are men. I never heard of any lady in my circle who is keen towards learning or creating something on this new technology created by the famous software giant. I am always in doubt, do ladies don't want to do tough job by adding their efforts, are they become tired to shift from one technology to the other. Their is a hype that still men is able to perform well and always take the challenge. Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one, again this doesn't mean I myself is considered but one has to look into this that very few of them are working on this challenging platform, not most of them. I always appreciate work from a lady on the architect level, afterall they have somewhat creativity to create new things, instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. I hope in the future more and more ladies come towrds creating something on this platform, like the men do and I am happy to collect arguments on this. To read in detail logon to http://netfoundry.blogspot.com/ Thanks. -Danish Sami 09:00 15/09/2004 The Phantom.
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I am an unofficial Microsoft .Net Evangelist, whose job is to put the efforts into the advancement of this smashing technology. In my routine work I came across many people who are architects, designers, application programmers, developers and testers, the equality among all of them is all are men. I never heard of any lady in my circle who is keen towards learning or creating something on this new technology created by the famous software giant. I am always in doubt, do ladies don't want to do tough job by adding their efforts, are they become tired to shift from one technology to the other. Their is a hype that still men is able to perform well and always take the challenge. Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one, again this doesn't mean I myself is considered but one has to look into this that very few of them are working on this challenging platform, not most of them. I always appreciate work from a lady on the architect level, afterall they have somewhat creativity to create new things, instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. I hope in the future more and more ladies come towrds creating something on this platform, like the men do and I am happy to collect arguments on this. To read in detail logon to http://netfoundry.blogspot.com/ Thanks. -Danish Sami 09:00 15/09/2004 The Phantom.
Perhaps it's rather that those of us women who are into .NET also have lives outside of the web? While I really do appreciate the improvements .NET has brought to my working life and love using it, I also have a husband who I love far more than I ever could any programming language and a passion for photography which takes up any remaining spare time. Brabus wrote: I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Perhaps you should stop looking on the internet :-D
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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Perhaps it's rather that those of us women who are into .NET also have lives outside of the web? While I really do appreciate the improvements .NET has brought to my working life and love using it, I also have a husband who I love far more than I ever could any programming language and a passion for photography which takes up any remaining spare time. Brabus wrote: I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Perhaps you should stop looking on the internet :-D
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyThis guy's chance of "finding" a mate pretty much hit rock bottom when grabbing a woman by the hair and dragging her off to a cave became a social feaux pas. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
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This guy's chance of "finding" a mate pretty much hit rock bottom when grabbing a woman by the hair and dragging her off to a cave became a social feaux pas. Cheers, Tom Archer "Use what talents you possess. The woods would be very silent if no birds sang there except those that sang best." - William Blake * Inside C# -Second Edition * Visual C++.NET Bible * Extending MFC Applications with the .NET Framework
*Elaine sits there sniggering* :laugh: The tigress is here :-D
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Perhaps it's rather that those of us women who are into .NET also have lives outside of the web? While I really do appreciate the improvements .NET has brought to my working life and love using it, I also have a husband who I love far more than I ever could any programming language and a passion for photography which takes up any remaining spare time. Brabus wrote: I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Perhaps you should stop looking on the internet :-D
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyIn general men are much more inclined to pursue ideas, technology, gadgets... for their own sake besides any practical benefit that may be derived from them. So even when women are also interested in these things they are much more likely to express the sentiments that you have. I'm not saying this is either good or bad, it's just the way things are. Kevin
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Perhaps it's rather that those of us women who are into .NET also have lives outside of the web? While I really do appreciate the improvements .NET has brought to my working life and love using it, I also have a husband who I love far more than I ever could any programming language and a passion for photography which takes up any remaining spare time. Brabus wrote: I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Perhaps you should stop looking on the internet :-D
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyNice work, Meg. Looking at your work brings back fond memories of lugging around my old RB67 to do landscapes. Best, Jerry Former member of the WPPI
Contrary to the cliche, genuinely nice guys most often finish first or very near it.--Malcolm Forbes
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I am an unofficial Microsoft .Net Evangelist, whose job is to put the efforts into the advancement of this smashing technology. In my routine work I came across many people who are architects, designers, application programmers, developers and testers, the equality among all of them is all are men. I never heard of any lady in my circle who is keen towards learning or creating something on this new technology created by the famous software giant. I am always in doubt, do ladies don't want to do tough job by adding their efforts, are they become tired to shift from one technology to the other. Their is a hype that still men is able to perform well and always take the challenge. Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one, again this doesn't mean I myself is considered but one has to look into this that very few of them are working on this challenging platform, not most of them. I always appreciate work from a lady on the architect level, afterall they have somewhat creativity to create new things, instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. I hope in the future more and more ladies come towrds creating something on this platform, like the men do and I am happy to collect arguments on this. To read in detail logon to http://netfoundry.blogspot.com/ Thanks. -Danish Sami 09:00 15/09/2004 The Phantom.
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Perhaps it's rather that those of us women who are into .NET also have lives outside of the web? While I really do appreciate the improvements .NET has brought to my working life and love using it, I also have a husband who I love far more than I ever could any programming language and a passion for photography which takes up any remaining spare time. Brabus wrote: I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Perhaps you should stop looking on the internet :-D
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyAre you implying he has no life outside of the web? Maybe he does, but you don't know that for sure now do you? The fact of the matter is, there are more male software developers than female. So, cut the guy some slack already. Oh, and I'm sure someone's gonna vote me down for this because I didn't kiss your ass like the rest of the CPians do. Jeremy Falcon
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I am an unofficial Microsoft .Net Evangelist, whose job is to put the efforts into the advancement of this smashing technology. In my routine work I came across many people who are architects, designers, application programmers, developers and testers, the equality among all of them is all are men. I never heard of any lady in my circle who is keen towards learning or creating something on this new technology created by the famous software giant. I am always in doubt, do ladies don't want to do tough job by adding their efforts, are they become tired to shift from one technology to the other. Their is a hype that still men is able to perform well and always take the challenge. Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one, again this doesn't mean I myself is considered but one has to look into this that very few of them are working on this challenging platform, not most of them. I always appreciate work from a lady on the architect level, afterall they have somewhat creativity to create new things, instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. I hope in the future more and more ladies come towrds creating something on this platform, like the men do and I am happy to collect arguments on this. To read in detail logon to http://netfoundry.blogspot.com/ Thanks. -Danish Sami 09:00 15/09/2004 The Phantom.
Simply put, computer nerds are typically guys. There are million reasons why this is, but I don't personally care to discuss my theories at the moment. This is neither good or bad - it's just the way things are. If you're looking for coworkers, quit worrying about finding a chick that's into programming and focus on finding talent. If you're looking for a relationship, then it's pointless to find a chick into programming that's halfway across the world anyway. Jeremy Falcon
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I am an unofficial Microsoft .Net Evangelist, whose job is to put the efforts into the advancement of this smashing technology. In my routine work I came across many people who are architects, designers, application programmers, developers and testers, the equality among all of them is all are men. I never heard of any lady in my circle who is keen towards learning or creating something on this new technology created by the famous software giant. I am always in doubt, do ladies don't want to do tough job by adding their efforts, are they become tired to shift from one technology to the other. Their is a hype that still men is able to perform well and always take the challenge. Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one, again this doesn't mean I myself is considered but one has to look into this that very few of them are working on this challenging platform, not most of them. I always appreciate work from a lady on the architect level, afterall they have somewhat creativity to create new things, instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. I hope in the future more and more ladies come towrds creating something on this platform, like the men do and I am happy to collect arguments on this. To read in detail logon to http://netfoundry.blogspot.com/ Thanks. -Danish Sami 09:00 15/09/2004 The Phantom.
I've voted "1" for this post. Learn reading and you'll find .NET-ladies right here on CP. Who wrote this post for you? You cannot write without being able to read. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Where on earth do you search for them? I'm sure you're doing something wrong. instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. Don't know what you mean. BTW: Programming with the .NET framework is far easier than with native languages. If you find only men for .NEt, it may be because those men don't understand native programming. Ladies are able to handle complicated things, so most of them don't need .NET. No Regards, coco
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I've voted "1" for this post. Learn reading and you'll find .NET-ladies right here on CP. Who wrote this post for you? You cannot write without being able to read. I am always in search of good ladies who willingly wants to take the challenge on the same ground as do I, but I am unable to find any one Where on earth do you search for them? I'm sure you're doing something wrong. instead of putting their efforts to craft something on this domain, they put it in the cosmetic work. Don't know what you mean. BTW: Programming with the .NET framework is far easier than with native languages. If you find only men for .NEt, it may be because those men don't understand native programming. Ladies are able to handle complicated things, so most of them don't need .NET. No Regards, coco
Corinna John wrote: Learn reading and you'll find .NET-ladies right here on CP. Learn manners and I won't think you're a bitch. BTW, have you considered maybe he doesn't visit CP that often? Duh! Corinna John wrote: If you find only men for .NEt, it may be because those men don't understand native programming. Ladies are able to handle complicated things, so most of them don't need .NET. That's stupid and chauvinistic. Jeremy Falcon
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Are you implying he has no life outside of the web? Maybe he does, but you don't know that for sure now do you? The fact of the matter is, there are more male software developers than female. So, cut the guy some slack already. Oh, and I'm sure someone's gonna vote me down for this because I didn't kiss your ass like the rest of the CPians do. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Are you implying he has no life outside of the web? Maybe he does, but you don't know that for sure now do you? I have no idea, no - but I was specifically referring to this sentance of his: (also, the big grinning smiley was meant to show humour) "Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet." Jeremy Falcon wrote: Oh, and I'm sure someone's gonna vote me down for this because I didn't kiss your ass like the rest of the CPians do Keh? :confused:
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Are you implying he has no life outside of the web? Maybe he does, but you don't know that for sure now do you? I have no idea, no - but I was specifically referring to this sentance of his: (also, the big grinning smiley was meant to show humour) "Whenever I read the articles, tutorials from MSDN, MSJ, TheServerSide.Net, GotDotNet, CodeProject they all have one thing in common, ladies are not allowed, this doesn't mean that website owners are stopping them to do, instead they are not taking challenge to do something which appeals or which create some attraction towards the men crowd on this planet internet." Jeremy Falcon wrote: Oh, and I'm sure someone's gonna vote me down for this because I didn't kiss your ass like the rest of the CPians do Keh? :confused:
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyMegan Forbes wrote: I have no idea, no - but I was specifically referring to this sentance of his: Granted, saying things like women are not allowed on sites like MSDN, etc. is just silly, but maybe his Egnlish skills are poor and didn't express what he wanted to say properly. Anyway, your post did come across as abrasive. Megan Forbes wrote: Keh? It's nothing against you. It was a message meant for those who would've voted me down for my post. The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. It's kinda revolting IMO. Jeremy Falcon
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Corinna John wrote: Learn reading and you'll find .NET-ladies right here on CP. Learn manners and I won't think you're a bitch. BTW, have you considered maybe he doesn't visit CP that often? Duh! Corinna John wrote: If you find only men for .NEt, it may be because those men don't understand native programming. Ladies are able to handle complicated things, so most of them don't need .NET. That's stupid and chauvinistic. Jeremy Falcon
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That was civil. :) BTW, it was no more tasteless than her post. Did/do you intend to tell her the same thing as well? Jeremy Falcon
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Megan Forbes wrote: I have no idea, no - but I was specifically referring to this sentance of his: Granted, saying things like women are not allowed on sites like MSDN, etc. is just silly, but maybe his Egnlish skills are poor and didn't express what he wanted to say properly. Anyway, your post did come across as abrasive. Megan Forbes wrote: Keh? It's nothing against you. It was a message meant for those who would've voted me down for my post. The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. It's kinda revolting IMO. Jeremy Falcon
>The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. True, actually true in most male dominated industries, but it's no reason to swing the other way. Maybe reply to Barbusa and give him some support if you agree with him rather than lashing out at the two females who chose to respond. (Meg is a personal friend of mine so my defensive-reply is not because she is female.) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?
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Megan Forbes wrote: I have no idea, no - but I was specifically referring to this sentance of his: Granted, saying things like women are not allowed on sites like MSDN, etc. is just silly, but maybe his Egnlish skills are poor and didn't express what he wanted to say properly. Anyway, your post did come across as abrasive. Megan Forbes wrote: Keh? It's nothing against you. It was a message meant for those who would've voted me down for my post. The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. It's kinda revolting IMO. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote: Granted, saying things like women are not allowed on sites like MSDN, etc. is just silly, but maybe his Egnlish skills are poor and didn't express what he wanted to say properly. Anyway, your post did come across as abrasive. I certainly hadn't meant to be abrasive. I did check his bio before replying, and it says he's from the US. Of course, perhaps he just selected the default when signing up... Jeremy Falcon wrote: The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. It's kinda revolting IMO. Ridiculous more than revolting perhaps. For the most part (99.98728% of us?) we will all never be more than a string of bits coming through each others lan cards/modems. Except that I've now met a couple of CPians in person, how would anyone here even know I'm really female? What proof do I have that you're male, or you could be Bill Gates under cover :rolleyes:. Still, at least programming forums are better than photography ones - you wouldn't believe how worked up people can become about their particular choice of equipment on those sites. And once again, they're probably never even going to meet the people they are debating with so heatedly!
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
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>The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. True, actually true in most male dominated industries, but it's no reason to swing the other way. Maybe reply to Barbusa and give him some support if you agree with him rather than lashing out at the two females who chose to respond. (Meg is a personal friend of mine so my defensive-reply is not because she is female.) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass South Africa Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: "Gassho rei, Watson-san!" Crikey! ain't life grand?
I did reply to him. And yeah, I understand being defensive. I'm being defensive too. :) Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Granted, saying things like women are not allowed on sites like MSDN, etc. is just silly, but maybe his Egnlish skills are poor and didn't express what he wanted to say properly. Anyway, your post did come across as abrasive. I certainly hadn't meant to be abrasive. I did check his bio before replying, and it says he's from the US. Of course, perhaps he just selected the default when signing up... Jeremy Falcon wrote: The trend on CP is though that most guys on CP suck up to the girls on CP. It's kinda revolting IMO. Ridiculous more than revolting perhaps. For the most part (99.98728% of us?) we will all never be more than a string of bits coming through each others lan cards/modems. Except that I've now met a couple of CPians in person, how would anyone here even know I'm really female? What proof do I have that you're male, or you could be Bill Gates under cover :rolleyes:. Still, at least programming forums are better than photography ones - you wouldn't believe how worked up people can become about their particular choice of equipment on those sites. And once again, they're probably never even going to meet the people they are debating with so heatedly!
Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams
Meg's World - Blog PhotographyRidiculous more than revolting perhaps. I see your point. It's just personal with me because I am a guy. I don't like seeing guys act so foolishly. What proof do I have that you're male, or you could be Bill Gates under cover If I were BG, I would have somebody with better grammar type for me. ;P But, the people here (and like Paul said, most male-dominated places) will even suck up at the thought of a girl. I know the converse can be true too, but typically the numbers are much greater for guys sucking up to girls. Anyway, to keep things CP oriented... Java sucks! Jeremy Falcon
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That was civil. :) BTW, it was no more tasteless than her post. Did/do you intend to tell her the same thing as well? Jeremy Falcon