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    Miami Herald editorial by Leonard Pitts,  Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 We'll go forward from this moment. It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time

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      Miami Herald editorial by Leonard Pitts,  Published Wednesday, September 12, 2001 We'll go forward from this moment. It's my job to have something to say. They pay me to provide words that help make sense of that which troubles the American soul. But in this moment of airless shock when hot tears sting disbelieving eyes, the only thing I can find to say, the only words that seem to fit, must be addressed to the unknown author of this suffering. You monster. You beast. You unspeakable bastard. What lesson did you hope to teach us by your coward's attack on our World Trade Center, our Pentagon, us? What was it you hoped we would learn? Whatever it was, please know that you failed. Did you want us to respect your cause? You just damned your cause. Did you want to make us fear? You just steeled our resolve. Did you want to tear us apart? You just brought us together. Let me tell you about my people. We are a vast and quarrelsome family, a family rent by racial, social, political and class division, but a family nonetheless. We're frivolous, yes, capable of expending tremendous emotional energy on pop cultural minutiae -- a singer's revealing dress, a ball team's misfortune, a cartoon mouse. We're wealthy, too, spoiled by the ready availability of trinkets and material goods, and maybe because of that, we walk through life with a certain sense of blithe entitlement. We are fundamentally decent, though -- peace-loving and compassionate. We struggle to know the right thing and to do it. And we are, the overwhelming majority of us, people of faith, believers in a just and loving God. Some people -- you, perhaps -- think that any or all of this makes us weak. You're mistaken. We are not weak. Indeed, we are strong in ways that cannot be measured by arsenals. IN PAIN Yes, we're in pain now. We are in mourning and we are in shock. We're still grappling with the unreality of the awful thing you did, still working to make ourselves understand that this isn't a special effect from some Hollywood blockbuster, isn't the plot development from a Tom Clancy novel. Both in terms of the awful scope of their ambition and the probable final death toll, your attacks are likely to go down as the worst acts of terrorism in the history of the United States and, probably, the history of the world. You've bloodied us as we have never been bloodied before. But there's a gulf of difference between making us bloody and making us fall. This is the lesson Japan was taught to its bitter sorrow the last time

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      and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind strong repost. .... go , burn them , and they'll win ... Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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        and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind strong repost. .... go , burn them , and they'll win ... Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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        and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind cowering response. .... go , ignore them , and they'll win ... Tim Smith Descartes Systems Sciences, Inc.

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          and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind strong repost. .... go , burn them , and they'll win ... Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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          Then this is what that shall receive. I find it funny that after performing such an act, they would DARE say *we* would be the barbarians if we responded with miltary force. That's laughable.

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            Then this is what that shall receive. I find it funny that after performing such an act, they would DARE say *we* would be the barbarians if we responded with miltary force. That's laughable.

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            eye for eye , is that the point ???? so go , shutdown 2 or 3 building , that may satisfy you ? Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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              eye for eye , is that the point ???? so go , shutdown 2 or 3 building , that may satisfy you ? Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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              Sure, sounds like a much better plan than making them write 1,000 times "I am a bad boy but the evil Americans made me do it."

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                and what if , this is exactly what they want. a blind strong repost. .... go , burn them , and they'll win ... Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                You guys all need to understand something about military tactics. As long as the enemy is capable of going on the offensive, you have to care about his goals. If you are on the offensive, he has to care about yours. Their goals are not important, only ours.

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                  eye for eye , is that the point ???? so go , shutdown 2 or 3 building , that may satisfy you ? Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                  This is my last attempt at being civil. Let's just assume for a moment, that France has the technological know-how to build a building complex capable of standing at 110 stories, and that they could somehow get 50,000 French people to stand each other long enough to actually get some viable work done. Now, let's assume that the same bastards that I would like to see turned into a collective puddle hijacked three Air-France jetliners and ran two of them into this building complex, killing a significant number of these French citizens, and then ran the third airliner into a significant government building (if you indeed have anything more significant than a sidewalk cafe). Are you trying to tell me that as a group, the French would just sit around on their collective asses sniffing wine corks and saying "turn he other cheek"? You're delusional. You'd be screaming for someone's head(s).

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                    This is my last attempt at being civil. Let's just assume for a moment, that France has the technological know-how to build a building complex capable of standing at 110 stories, and that they could somehow get 50,000 French people to stand each other long enough to actually get some viable work done. Now, let's assume that the same bastards that I would like to see turned into a collective puddle hijacked three Air-France jetliners and ran two of them into this building complex, killing a significant number of these French citizens, and then ran the third airliner into a significant government building (if you indeed have anything more significant than a sidewalk cafe). Are you trying to tell me that as a group, the French would just sit around on their collective asses sniffing wine corks and saying "turn he other cheek"? You're delusional. You'd be screaming for someone's head(s).

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                    I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                      I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                      "I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass." Man, that would be a first! (Sorry, is that intolerant?)

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                        "I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass." Man, that would be a first! (Sorry, is that intolerant?)

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                        "Man, that would be a first!" yes , and even after subway attack few years ago , we just kill people who did that , and that's it . what should we have done , blast the all algerie ? this may look coward , but i'm satisfy whit this. "(Sorry, is that intolerant?)" not too much. cowboy Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                          "Man, that would be a first!" yes , and even after subway attack few years ago , we just kill people who did that , and that's it . what should we have done , blast the all algerie ? this may look coward , but i'm satisfy whit this. "(Sorry, is that intolerant?)" not too much. cowboy Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                          Stan Shannon
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                          Probably has more to do with the Anglo-Saxon in me than the Cowboy. Just couldn't resist. Sorry.:rose: ;)

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                            Probably has more to do with the Anglo-Saxon in me than the Cowboy. Just couldn't resist. Sorry.:rose: ;)

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                            Stop brown-nosing Stan, it's embarrassing to watch... :)

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                              Stop brown-nosing Stan, it's embarrassing to watch... :)

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                              Just trying to stay out of trouble. I wonder if I could get away with razzing Texans?;P

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                                Just trying to stay out of trouble. I wonder if I could get away with razzing Texans?;P

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                                Give it a shot. :) I think we've entered Chris's sleep time. We may be able to getaway with having our messages in the lounge for at least 3 or four hours per day. :)

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                                  You guys all need to understand something about military tactics. As long as the enemy is capable of going on the offensive, you have to care about his goals. If you are on the offensive, he has to care about yours. Their goals are not important, only ours.

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                                  I agree with gilles dassac. The problem with this situation right now is that we are all on an emotional high. Those who say you didn't lose a loved one is only kidding themselves when one believes the American people are one as it says in the Constitution. And those that are outside of our nation, to tell them they didn't lose a loved one, is also only kidding themselves when one believes that as a world, every person is united. I fear the US acting blinding with emotion. Most counties have. We have proven what happens when we have acted as such. Japan learned that American anger is deadly and devisating. Did all those people really have to die to win the war against evil? I believe America needs to step back from this situation, retire themselves from the shock and anger and look upon a resolve that is morale and from the heart and not from anger. If we react blindly to this, terrorism will never be defeated. This event may happen again, and quite possibly to the French and the Effiel Tower. Whose to know. I sure as hell do not want anyone to experience what we have just experienced, not even one my greatest enemy. I greatly appreciate how many countries have provided their sympathies and would ask that these sympathies continue long past this tragedy, for it's this sort of unity, that makes all of the pain bearable and makes us resilient and stronger. (ps. You have no idea how much I am trying to get a point through. Yet it's hard when their are those who close themselves off from my message. I have even attempted to write to the President to stop him from acting out of anger. I will continue to fight for peace and morale until my final breath. This is something I take 100% seriously. And this is something that I will never give up on. I only hope that maybe what I say will reach one person. From there, I pray for a 2-3 tree to be created. bad pun... Okay, so I'm not serious all the time :)

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                                    Give it a shot. :) I think we've entered Chris's sleep time. We may be able to getaway with having our messages in the lounge for at least 3 or four hours per day. :)

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                                    Nope, I'm covering the fort while chris gets his zzzzzzzzzzzz's

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                                      I'm sure the french gouvenement will raise an army and go kik some ass. anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again. i'm not saying we have to do nothing , i'm just saying that replying in an hanger is surly not the solution . are the united state army going to occupy all arabic contry ? or just replaying the golf war and go back home ? by the way , i like your vision of french .. ;P Gilles Dassac NeverSo France gilles@neverso.com

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                                      "anyway , what's next , unless you kill them all , your just giving more reason to do it again and again." You're statement is true. Another legitimate statement is that US will kill them all (or at least most capable of real damage). US will also destroy or greatly damage those nations that "harbor them." And yes, we are capable of doing that. In other wars such as WWII, Vietnam, Gulfwar, etc we did great damage even though the mainland wasn't hit and many Americans and Congress didn't support war. Now that the government is backed by the people and the funds granted and a NATO coalition is being formed, they we'll learn the meaning of the word "WAR." They believe that kiling is for the cause of religion. No religion says that, not even the Koran book. Fanatics that will harshly pay.

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                                        I agree with gilles dassac. The problem with this situation right now is that we are all on an emotional high. Those who say you didn't lose a loved one is only kidding themselves when one believes the American people are one as it says in the Constitution. And those that are outside of our nation, to tell them they didn't lose a loved one, is also only kidding themselves when one believes that as a world, every person is united. I fear the US acting blinding with emotion. Most counties have. We have proven what happens when we have acted as such. Japan learned that American anger is deadly and devisating. Did all those people really have to die to win the war against evil? I believe America needs to step back from this situation, retire themselves from the shock and anger and look upon a resolve that is morale and from the heart and not from anger. If we react blindly to this, terrorism will never be defeated. This event may happen again, and quite possibly to the French and the Effiel Tower. Whose to know. I sure as hell do not want anyone to experience what we have just experienced, not even one my greatest enemy. I greatly appreciate how many countries have provided their sympathies and would ask that these sympathies continue long past this tragedy, for it's this sort of unity, that makes all of the pain bearable and makes us resilient and stronger. (ps. You have no idea how much I am trying to get a point through. Yet it's hard when their are those who close themselves off from my message. I have even attempted to write to the President to stop him from acting out of anger. I will continue to fight for peace and morale until my final breath. This is something I take 100% seriously. And this is something that I will never give up on. I only hope that maybe what I say will reach one person. From there, I pray for a 2-3 tree to be created. bad pun... Okay, so I'm not serious all the time :)

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                                        Eric Sanchez
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                                        So what are you saying, that u want terrorist to hit us again. You want us to back off and show the world how much of a coward we are. I respect your opinion, but I believe we must strike back. Imagine how many people lost relatives. How many professionals died. How much money was lost. How much hours of work went into constructing the twins. How much the economy will crash. How much the Palestinians celebrated. And you still want peace?

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                                          Nope, I'm covering the fort while chris gets his zzzzzzzzzzzz's

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                                          Christian Graus
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                                          Damn - DAMN !!! :) Christian As I learn the innermost secrets of the around me, they reward me in many ways to keep quiet. Men with pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've experienced pain and bought Jewellery.

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