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  • M Member 96

    Rocky Moore wrote: Security is number one reason! You do not get attacked every time some web site redirects you to some spyware installer. My wife nor my self has had one spyware application installed since switching to FireFox and she would get them weekly with IE. Yeah, I've heard that, but I honestly have never gotten ( :~ ) any spyware so I can't figure out how people are getting it in the first place other than clicking on the "click here" links in popup ads maybe, but that's not the browsers fault and seems more dangerous in Firefox since you get more popups (or I do at least).

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    seems more dangerous in Firefox since you get more popups (or I do at least). Actually, I have received one popup ad in three months. May be that I do not go to the sites that require them that much, but I know my wife does not get a lot and she DOES go to those kind of sites :) After running Ad-Aware on my machine, I found that I also had spyware that was installed via IE without my knowledge. It is a gamble visiting almost any web site out there while running IE. As for FireFox being "more dangerous", it is just the reverse, FireFox does not allow Active-x controls to run and virtually eliminates those spware programs from installing. And that is by default ;) Of course, you do not want to get hit with some of them that other developers have (who will remain nameless ;) ) and end up formatting and reinstalling ... IE is fine for LAN based internet apps, but for the Internet, MS needs to really get going and strip a bunch of junk out of it, along with fixing many of its CSS and HTML rending bugs. Rocky <>< www.HintsAndTips.com - RSS Enabled www.JokesTricksAndStuff.com www.MyQuickPoll.com Me Blogs: wdevs - MSN Spaces (new)

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      Yuck! Why isn't it just included? I.E. is still the best, no question about it.

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      Bruce Duncan
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      Because then it'd be as big and bloated as IE.

      Searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
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        No, it isn't. I have yet to find anything at all that is better about it. Enlighten me please.

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        It doesn't require self-serving proprietary extentions to the HTML standard in order to work. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          I agree 100%. The raving is completely baseless and anti-microsoft as far as I can tell. It doesn't block popups as well as I.E. does, half the websites I go to don't work properly including this forum etc etc. If I hear one more person go on about the reason for all that being that Firefox is supporting some standard that I.E. doesn't I'm going to barf. What the hell do you think a standard is people? It's the one that everyone is using.

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          Explorer doesn't block pop-ups. You have to install someone else's software if you want to do that with explorer. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          • M Member 96

            No, it isn't. I have yet to find anything at all that is better about it. Enlighten me please.

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            Edbert P
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            I used to be an avid IE fan and still use it for Microsoft-related websites. The reasons I now use Mozilla are: 1. Open in background. I can open link on the background instead of switching over everytime I open a link. This is one most single annoying feature of IE that I hate. I can also open several links easily while reading the current page and waiting until the links have finished loading. ALSO, mouse-wheel clicking on a link opens it in another tab. 2. Mouse gesture. Handy when I feel I'm too lazy to use the keyboard at all. Also faster than searching for icons (e.g. forward, backward, refresh, bookmark, open link). 3. Safe(r) browsing experience. I'm not sure about the security side, but so far nothing has hijacked my Mozilla toolbar or changed my homepage :-D Those are the three main reasons I switched over. Edbert P. Sydney, Australia.

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              Because then it'd be as big and bloated as IE.

              Searching the web without Google is like straining sewage with your teeth.
              Userfriendly, 2003/06/07

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              David Wulff
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              But I thought IE couldn't do all those things? ;P Joking asside, for what it does I don't find IE to be bloated at all? It views web pages... that's about it, surely?


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              • M Marc Clifton

                I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                Steve Echols
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                "I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB." I think you can right click on "^" (or any link) and select Open Link in New Tab. That's how I've been doing it anyway. I've been using FFox for a couple of months, and find not having to run AdAware or SpyBot every 5 seconds is pretty cool thing (although I still do it, just out of paranoia).

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                  alex barylski
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                  I'm not a fan either... I find IE has faster rendering and response times. I find it very klunky as you put it. I only have it on my desktop for cross browser code checks It's frustrating being a genius and living the life of a moron!!!

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                    I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. ---------- you do realize that the "^" here in CP forces the webbrowser to open a new window dont you? also in FireFox 1.0 (full release) you have the option of opening everything in a new tab, even links sent to you through AIM&ICQ, MSN, and YIM i luv FireFox www.JuggaloBrotha.com

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                      ... and another firefox thread ;) the funny thing is nobody seems to have real arguments for firefox. i always here it's the best and safest browser on earth - but why? nearly all features that firefox have are already avaible in free IE addons. i like firefox, it's a nice browser i just can't see any reason why it should be better that IE with addons. it seems many people using avant and don't even now maxthon. this browser has much more than firefox, and hey there is also a "use gecko engine" function so you don't have to use two browsers for crosschecking sites. so if you using firefox and u love it, check out maxthon.com and tell me why i should use firefox instead. i can't see any reason ...

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                      • Steve EcholsS Steve Echols

                        "I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB." I think you can right click on "^" (or any link) and select Open Link in New Tab. That's how I've been doing it anyway. I've been using FFox for a couple of months, and find not having to run AdAware or SpyBot every 5 seconds is pretty cool thing (although I still do it, just out of paranoia).

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                        Click the middle button instead


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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                          Ted Ferenc
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                          Simply click the middle mouse button, it will open the link in a new tab. As the saying goes, have you read the manual?:-O


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                            I agree 100%. The raving is completely baseless and anti-microsoft as far as I can tell. It doesn't block popups as well as I.E. does, half the websites I go to don't work properly including this forum etc etc. If I hear one more person go on about the reason for all that being that Firefox is supporting some standard that I.E. doesn't I'm going to barf. What the hell do you think a standard is people? It's the one that everyone is using.

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                            John Cardinal wrote: I'm going to barf Do you have a webcam? :rolleyes: -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                              Explorer doesn't block pop-ups. You have to install someone else's software if you want to do that with explorer. ------- sig starts "I've heard some drivers saying, 'We're going too fast here...'. If you're not here to race, go the hell home - don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Why don't you tie a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                              Yes it does. At least with SP2 it does. -- Weiter, weiter, ins verderben. Wir müssen leben bis wir sterben. I blog too now[^]

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                                I agree 100%. The raving is completely baseless and anti-microsoft as far as I can tell. It doesn't block popups as well as I.E. does, half the websites I go to don't work properly including this forum etc etc. If I hear one more person go on about the reason for all that being that Firefox is supporting some standard that I.E. doesn't I'm going to barf. What the hell do you think a standard is people? It's the one that everyone is using.

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                                suzyb
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                                The standards that firefox supports is proper rendering of html/css according to the w3c specs. Your right though, it isn't actually a standard. The w3c specs are only recomendations. SuzyB If I had a better memory I would remember more.

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                                  I agree 100%. The raving is completely baseless and anti-microsoft as far as I can tell. It doesn't block popups as well as I.E. does, half the websites I go to don't work properly including this forum etc etc. If I hear one more person go on about the reason for all that being that Firefox is supporting some standard that I.E. doesn't I'm going to barf. What the hell do you think a standard is people? It's the one that everyone is using.

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  >What the hell do you think a standard is people? It's the one that everyone is using. You are not a web-developer, are you? regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project

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                                    No, it isn't. I have yet to find anything at all that is better about it. Enlighten me please.

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                                    Paul Watson
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                                    I don't think we have a chance of that. Honestly, you like IE and that's cool, we have choice and you chose. I chose FF though and I like it, doesn't make me right and you wrong. Carry on using what you like and chose. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project

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                                      Errr...Tools->Options->Advanced->Tabbed Browsing->"Force links that open in new windows to open in:"->"A new tab"? Or is that only in the newer nightlies? I'd have to go downstairs to check out Firefox 1.0. [EDIT]You can also get used to just middle-clicking (you know, scroll wheel clicking?) all the links. That always opens in a new tab.[/EDIT]


                                      Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?

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                                      Tools->Options->Advanced->Tabbed Browsing->"Force links that open in new windows to open in:"->"A new tab"? I don't get that option here (on FireFox 1.0) Have you got TabBrowserExtensions installed (as I remember an option like that when I had that extension installed on Mozilla) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Is it me, or is this thing really as klunky as it looks and feels? I know there's people that rave about it, but they've got a long way to go compared to Avant. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing

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                                        Arjan Einbu
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                                        I just tried it. I click on the little "^" here on CP to follow a link, and it opens a new WINDOW. I try a few options but there appears to be no way to open the link in a TAB. Holding down CTRL when clicking on a link will open it in a new TAB. Also works on CP's "^" links. (Though you don't need'em anymore...)

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                                          Tools->Options->Advanced->Tabbed Browsing->"Force links that open in new windows to open in:"->"A new tab"? I don't get that option here (on FireFox 1.0) Have you got TabBrowserExtensions installed (as I remember an option like that when I had that extension installed on Mozilla) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit! Phoenix Paint - back from DPaint's ashes!

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                                          Nah. I'm running today's Trunk nightly build. Have been since right before the Aviary landing (that's the port of the Firefox 1.0 Aviary branch code back to the Trunk). I seem to remember the code we're referring to was ripped from the branch shortly before release...don't remember why though.


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