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Arrghhghghghg! Intellisense is broken AGAIN

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    Member 96
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    Unfortunately that didn't solve the problem. Intellisense just broke again about two minutes ago and I double checked the license files but found no change from when I removed the blank line at the end earlier. Well it was worth a shot, thanks for the suggestion. I think I'm going to give that VisualAssist add-in a try and see if it works any better. Cheers!

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      ..for the 10 hundred millionth time in Visual studio .net 2003. I have a HUGE project I'm working on with a solution containing 15 different projects, some in VB.NET some in C# etc. One level is a business object framework, the next level is the business objects themselves, now I'm in the UI and I really, really, really *NEED* the intellisense / autocomplete to be working because I can't remember the exact spelling of every frigging property of the 250 or so business objects in the solution. ARRRGHHGHGHGHGHGH! I've bloody had it. I'm sick of rebuilding all and going for coffee just to fix the stupid intellisense, I'm sick of having to shut down and restart the whole project and wait the minute or so for it to load...just to fix the intellisense. It's killing my productivity. I've researched this problem about a million times on the net and there is no solution listed anywhere for it that actually *FIXES* the problem for once and for all. Microsoft recommends all sorts of stupid things that simply fix it for ten seconds or so until it breaks again. How in the world is it there hasn't been a single...not one update for VS.NET 2003 since the day it was released? (Or am I missing something drastically here?) Does this work any better on vs.net 2k5 or is it just as broken in large projects? Does that Visual Assist thing handle huge projects? Anyone using it?

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      Tom Archer
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      You don't even want to *think* about using 2005 if you're having problems with 2003. They've even managed to break (change?) tabbing through windows in that version! Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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        ..for the 10 hundred millionth time in Visual studio .net 2003. I have a HUGE project I'm working on with a solution containing 15 different projects, some in VB.NET some in C# etc. One level is a business object framework, the next level is the business objects themselves, now I'm in the UI and I really, really, really *NEED* the intellisense / autocomplete to be working because I can't remember the exact spelling of every frigging property of the 250 or so business objects in the solution. ARRRGHHGHGHGHGHGH! I've bloody had it. I'm sick of rebuilding all and going for coffee just to fix the stupid intellisense, I'm sick of having to shut down and restart the whole project and wait the minute or so for it to load...just to fix the intellisense. It's killing my productivity. I've researched this problem about a million times on the net and there is no solution listed anywhere for it that actually *FIXES* the problem for once and for all. Microsoft recommends all sorts of stupid things that simply fix it for ten seconds or so until it breaks again. How in the world is it there hasn't been a single...not one update for VS.NET 2003 since the day it was released? (Or am I missing something drastically here?) Does this work any better on vs.net 2k5 or is it just as broken in large projects? Does that Visual Assist thing handle huge projects? Anyone using it?

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        peterchen
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        what else to say? [edit]missed your last sentence, sorry. Yes, we are using it in a fewhundredKLoc project (VC6), and it's doing great. Try it, you'll love it. Their latest Release claims to do a better job at guessing (when you type only a part, or only the "initials" of a camel case word etc), and either I am hooked to some drug their marketing department uses, or maybe it simply does. I miss some options, stuff I'd like to switch on/off individually, but OTOH I am VERY happy that it isn't a "configuration nightmare".


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          what else to say? [edit]missed your last sentence, sorry. Yes, we are using it in a fewhundredKLoc project (VC6), and it's doing great. Try it, you'll love it. Their latest Release claims to do a better job at guessing (when you type only a part, or only the "initials" of a camel case word etc), and either I am hooked to some drug their marketing department uses, or maybe it simply does. I miss some options, stuff I'd like to switch on/off individually, but OTOH I am VERY happy that it isn't a "configuration nightmare".


          I never really know a killer from a savior
          boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist | doxygen

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          Sadly I tried Visual Assist and within a few minutes the *exact* same problems were cropping up with *their* intellisense. It's very bizarre when the exact same thing is happening with a completely different product. There is an "Get content from default intellisense" option which I ensured was turned off at all times. I can only guess that they are actually using the built in intellisense database or doing things in such a similar manner to Microsoft that whatever is weird about my project is breaking their intellisense as well. On the bright side they do a better job of presenting options and the templats look cool. At one point I was after a method called "IsUnassigned" only I typed "Un" by accident because I thought it was called "unassigned", but it still presented me with "IsUnassigned" in the popup box which is pretty cool when you think about it. In desperation I've tried stripping things out of my solution file and turning off automatic builds for all but the UI project in the solution that I'm currently working in and it hasn't broken again since but it's only been a few hours. I guess the end result is that I don't need Visual Assist if it doesn't resolve the original problem, but I'll play with it for a month and see if I can't live without it after that. Cheers and thanks for answering.

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            ..for the 10 hundred millionth time in Visual studio .net 2003. I have a HUGE project I'm working on with a solution containing 15 different projects, some in VB.NET some in C# etc. One level is a business object framework, the next level is the business objects themselves, now I'm in the UI and I really, really, really *NEED* the intellisense / autocomplete to be working because I can't remember the exact spelling of every frigging property of the 250 or so business objects in the solution. ARRRGHHGHGHGHGHGH! I've bloody had it. I'm sick of rebuilding all and going for coffee just to fix the stupid intellisense, I'm sick of having to shut down and restart the whole project and wait the minute or so for it to load...just to fix the intellisense. It's killing my productivity. I've researched this problem about a million times on the net and there is no solution listed anywhere for it that actually *FIXES* the problem for once and for all. Microsoft recommends all sorts of stupid things that simply fix it for ten seconds or so until it breaks again. How in the world is it there hasn't been a single...not one update for VS.NET 2003 since the day it was released? (Or am I missing something drastically here?) Does this work any better on vs.net 2k5 or is it just as broken in large projects? Does that Visual Assist thing handle huge projects? Anyone using it?

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            I've had the same problems, very frustrating. In the end I gave up on using VS as my main editor and now uses sourceinsight[^] as my main editor. That works! And a lot faster too. --- There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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              You don't even want to *think* about using 2005 if you're having problems with 2003. They've even managed to break (change?) tabbing through windows in that version! Cheers, Tom Archer - Archer Consulting Group Programmer Trainer and Mentor and Project Management Consultant

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              Tom - you can change the key binding for Ctrl+Tab to be a proper window switcher - bind it to Window.NextDocumentWindow - it seems to be bound to Window.PreviousDocumentWindowNav by default,which is why it pops up the window with all the window icons in it. HTH Stuart Dootson 'Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p'

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                Sadly I tried Visual Assist and within a few minutes the *exact* same problems were cropping up with *their* intellisense. It's very bizarre when the exact same thing is happening with a completely different product. There is an "Get content from default intellisense" option which I ensured was turned off at all times. I can only guess that they are actually using the built in intellisense database or doing things in such a similar manner to Microsoft that whatever is weird about my project is breaking their intellisense as well. On the bright side they do a better job of presenting options and the templats look cool. At one point I was after a method called "IsUnassigned" only I typed "Un" by accident because I thought it was called "unassigned", but it still presented me with "IsUnassigned" in the popup box which is pretty cool when you think about it. In desperation I've tried stripping things out of my solution file and turning off automatic builds for all but the UI project in the solution that I'm currently working in and it hasn't broken again since but it's only been a few hours. I guess the end result is that I don't need Visual Assist if it doesn't resolve the original problem, but I'll play with it for a month and see if I can't live without it after that. Cheers and thanks for answering.

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                Have you tried deleting the project's ncb file? That may fix it.

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                  ..for the 10 hundred millionth time in Visual studio .net 2003. I have a HUGE project I'm working on with a solution containing 15 different projects, some in VB.NET some in C# etc. One level is a business object framework, the next level is the business objects themselves, now I'm in the UI and I really, really, really *NEED* the intellisense / autocomplete to be working because I can't remember the exact spelling of every frigging property of the 250 or so business objects in the solution. ARRRGHHGHGHGHGHGH! I've bloody had it. I'm sick of rebuilding all and going for coffee just to fix the stupid intellisense, I'm sick of having to shut down and restart the whole project and wait the minute or so for it to load...just to fix the intellisense. It's killing my productivity. I've researched this problem about a million times on the net and there is no solution listed anywhere for it that actually *FIXES* the problem for once and for all. Microsoft recommends all sorts of stupid things that simply fix it for ten seconds or so until it breaks again. How in the world is it there hasn't been a single...not one update for VS.NET 2003 since the day it was released? (Or am I missing something drastically here?) Does this work any better on vs.net 2k5 or is it just as broken in large projects? Does that Visual Assist thing handle huge projects? Anyone using it?

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                  I feel your pain. During one of our many calls to PSS we were told to delete the corrupt csprojdata files. Might be worth a look. It didn't work for us and we lose about 1 hour a week on average because of lost intellesense on small to big projects (some with 3rd party controls, others not) Cheers, Simon sig ::
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                    Have you tried deleting the project's ncb file? That may fix it.

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                    I used to do that in visual studio 6 with c++ when it's intellisense database would break (now that I think about it this has been a pretty long standing problem), however in vs.net2003 with c# and VB.Net there isn't an ncb file to delete.

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                      I feel your pain. During one of our many calls to PSS we were told to delete the corrupt csprojdata files. Might be worth a look. It didn't work for us and we lose about 1 hour a week on average because of lost intellesense on small to big projects (some with 3rd party controls, others not) Cheers, Simon sig ::
                      "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
                      article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
                      "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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                      Yeah, it's incredibly time consuming when it breaks for all sorts of reasons. The intellisense / autocomplete is just an out and out necessity these days the way everything is built on layers of objects. Between rebuilding to fix it, or closing and opening it or having to refer to the object browser to find the names of the things I can't remember it *easily* consumes an hour maybe two a week.

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                        Yeah, it's incredibly time consuming when it breaks for all sorts of reasons. The intellisense / autocomplete is just an out and out necessity these days the way everything is built on layers of objects. Between rebuilding to fix it, or closing and opening it or having to refer to the object browser to find the names of the things I can't remember it *easily* consumes an hour maybe two a week.

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                        We made the fatal error of using VSS for our source control, so the process of closing-down-vs-and-deleting-bin/objs can take up to 5 minutes a time. Times that a few times a day. X| I just wish there were viable alternatives. Been looking closely at Delphi2005. No definite opinion on it yet, but I want to like it. Very much. Cheers, Simon sig ::
                        "Don't try to be like Jackie. There is only one Jackie.... Study computers instead.", Jackie Chan on career choices.
                        article :: animation mechanics in SVG blog:: brokenkeyboards
                        "Most of us are programmers, but a few use VB", Christian Graus

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