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  • U Uwe Keim

    You can't! Someone who is so unbelievable stupid can't be convinced, no matter how good your proof would be... :( -- Affordable Windows-based CMS: www.zeta-producer.com

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    Nish Nishant
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    Uwe Keim wrote: Someone who is so unbelievable stupid can't be convinced I don't think all smokers are stupid - most smokers know how bad smoking is for their health. It's just that they can't resist it. The same way, fat people (who can't resist eating fattening food) are not stupid either. Nish

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      Easy!!! introduce him/her to Jesus Christ. He/she will end smoking (plus many alphas, including drinking) when Jesus comes into him/her life. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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      Nish Nishant
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      Paul Selormey wrote: Easy!!! introduce him/her to Jesus Christ. He/she will end smoking (plus many alphas, including drinking) when Jesus comes into him/her life. Maybe he'd help them quit smoking, but he sorta encourages drinking. Remember that scne where he gave 1000s of people wine? ;-) A lot of first timers must have begun drinking that very day :rolleyes:

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        Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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        Paul Watson
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        They have already seen all the diseased-lung photos and yet they still smoke. You cannot make someone stop something like this. They have to want to stop. You can try and convince them and all they will do is stop smoking in front of you and do it behind your back. They can also grow resentful to you. Don't be the know-it-all friend ok? As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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          They have already seen all the diseased-lung photos and yet they still smoke. You cannot make someone stop something like this. They have to want to stop. You can try and convince them and all they will do is stop smoking in front of you and do it behind your back. They can also grow resentful to you. Don't be the know-it-all friend ok? As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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          Nish Nishant
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          Paul Watson wrote: As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. Exactly!

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            Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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            • P Paul Selormey

              Easy!!! introduce him/her to Jesus Christ. He/she will end smoking (plus many alphas, including drinking) when Jesus comes into him/her life. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                They have already seen all the diseased-lung photos and yet they still smoke. You cannot make someone stop something like this. They have to want to stop. You can try and convince them and all they will do is stop smoking in front of you and do it behind your back. They can also grow resentful to you. Don't be the know-it-all friend ok? As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                Paul Watson wrote: As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. in a way you're correct, but it's my health they're playing with too... A true friend will not mind, not smoking when you're around, if he does, it shows a lack of respect...:) "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                  Paul Watson wrote: As mad as it sounds many people enjoy smoking, they understand the consequences and because they are adults are entitled to continue. in a way you're correct, but it's my health they're playing with too... A true friend will not mind, not smoking when you're around, if he does, it shows a lack of respect...:) "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                  Of course but that is not the question possed in this thread. regards, Paul Watson South Africa The Code Project Pope Pius II said "The only prescription is more cowbell. "

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                  • D devvvy

                    Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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                    Rob Manderson
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                    maybe a trifle radical but hey... MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!! or, put a little more mildly, live and let live! Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                    • P Paul Selormey

                      Easy!!! introduce him/her to Jesus Christ. He/she will end smoking (plus many alphas, including drinking) when Jesus comes into him/her life. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                      Rob Manderson
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                      Never seen a smoking priest? Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                      • P Paul Selormey

                        Easy!!! introduce him/her to Jesus Christ. He/she will end smoking (plus many alphas, including drinking) when Jesus comes into him/her life. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

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                        David Wulff
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                        Paul Selormey wrote: plus many alphas What's an alpha?


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                          Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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                          KaRl
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                          You can't, and in fact it may be useless and counterproductive. You have to understand logic doesn't work with addicted people. If it did, they wouldn't be addicted at first. Also, don't minimize the pleasure smokers get with tobacco, you're asking them to make a sacrifice. Generally, smokers know pretty well all the inconvenients generated by this addiction. Showing them harsh pictures might generate a rejection not towards tobacco, but towards you: you may loose some friends in the process. In a way, people are free to do what they want, as long as they don't harm you. So if you can ask them not to smoke when you here (be prepared to the fact they may quite well ask you to leave instead), you have to tolerate their habits, you can't "make the good against somebody's will" Deciding to quit is a long process, and only the smoker can do the way. IMO, the best incentive to stop smoking is the example of somebody stopping.


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                            maybe a trifle radical but hey... MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS!!! or, put a little more mildly, live and let live! Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                            KaRl
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                            Rob Manderson wrote: put a little more mildly, live and let live! "Live and let die" would be more accurate ;):)


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                              well, although it's tough trying to stop someone from smoking, here some ideas. (Never stop trying :-)) - Calculate the annual cost of cigarettes/sigares AND (important) give some examples of what he/she could do with the money instead. - Canada I think has pictures on their packs of cigarettes including teeth, liver, etc... You can probably google for that. - Here in Belgium there is a large text on the packs saying: "ROKEN IS DODELIJK" which means "SMOKING KILLS". (there are some other texts too) Other countries probably have something similar. - google for some scientific papers on the consequences... good luck. "If I don't see you in this world, I'll see you in the next one... and don't be late." ~ Jimi Hendrix

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                              KaRl
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                              V. wrote: Other countries probably have something similar. It's an european directive[^], all the members of the EU should have implemented it.


                              Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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                                Rob Manderson wrote: put a little more mildly, live and let live! "Live and let die" would be more accurate ;):)


                                Fold With Us! Sie wollen mein Herz am rechten Fleck, doch Seh' ich dann nach unten weg Da schlägt es links

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                                K(arl) wrote: "Live and let die" would be more accurate True enough! But my point still stands; it's my business and no one elses if I choose to smoke. But see here[^] for further thoughts. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                                  Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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                                  Antony M Kancidrowski
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                                  Many people like to smoke. My Gran did. She smoked 40 cigarettes a day up until she died. She really enjoyed smoking. When she came to see us she would stand at the back door and smoke. No matter how many times she saw images of smokers lungs (there are always non-smoking campains shown every year on television here in the UK) it never made her want to quit smoking. As others have said, each to their own (they will inevitably make their own mind up). Ant. I'm hard, yet soft.
                                  I'm coloured, yet clear.
                                  I'm fruity and sweet.
                                  I'm jelly, what am I? Muse on it further, I shall return!
                                  - David Walliams (Little Britain)

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                                    Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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                                    Kryasis
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                                    Don't bother, it doesn't work. When I used to smoke, those "Every Cigarette is doing you Damage" ads that were on in Australia just made me want to go and light up.:sigh: You'll find that you fiend knows all of the evidence, and exactly how it is killing them and still they wont quit. The only way they will be able to quit is when they decide for themselves to quit and no external pressure will have any effect whatsoever. The only thing that you can do is hope that they will "see the light" one day and be a good supportive friend when they do.:)

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                                      K(arl) wrote: "Live and let die" would be more accurate True enough! But my point still stands; it's my business and no one elses if I choose to smoke. But see here[^] for further thoughts. Rob Manderson I'm working on a version for Visual Lisp++ My (occasional) blog http://blogs.wdevs.com/ultramaroon/[^]

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                                      Corinna John
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                                      It is definitley your personal decision whether or not to smoke at home. Anyway, please don't force other people to smell your smoke, by smoking in front of them. Your choice was smoke, but other people's choices were health/fresh air/freedom from addiction/money/whatever. If you want to be free to smoke, you have to let others be free to breathe, and the only way to do so is to smoke only at home. :suss: _________________________________ Vote '1' if you're too lazy for a discussion

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                                        Guys, trying to convince someone not to smoke. To do that, I need some strong visual effect - any good picture/photo illustrating effect of tobacco use on skin? :confused: Norman Fung

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                                        Patient: Doctor, I want live to be eighty? Doctor: Well, do you drink, smoke, chase women, or gamble? Patient: I don't drink. I never smoked. I rarely gamble and I never runaround with women. Doctor: Then tell me... why do you want to live to be eighty?


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                                          Paul Selormey wrote: plus many alphas What's an alpha?


                                          Ðavid Wulff The Royal Woofle Museum
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                                          David Wulff wrote: What's an alpha? A bug ridden software release. Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So i had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash 24/04/2004

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