MS finally admits what C++ developers already know:
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
I found: However, Theimer said the cluster version will include some restrictions on how the version can be used to prevent companies from performing standard Web hosting or other functions. Interesting.. Why would the want to limit it I wonder. Most people should know that C# will be a little slower (and sometimes many fold) than C/C++. That said though C/C++ is slower and far bulkier than Assembler, but that does not mean I want to go back to the days of Assembler. I remember in the early days, I still had to write in Assembler for the speed when it came to screen handling functions (good old character based UI's ;) ). But that and some IO routines where all I needed and could build the rest in C/C++. Sames goes for now, if I need something blistering fast, I could spend the extra development time and code in C/C++, but for most work C# fills the bill with far less work. For me, it has been years since I needed C/C++. Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
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I found: However, Theimer said the cluster version will include some restrictions on how the version can be used to prevent companies from performing standard Web hosting or other functions. Interesting.. Why would the want to limit it I wonder. Most people should know that C# will be a little slower (and sometimes many fold) than C/C++. That said though C/C++ is slower and far bulkier than Assembler, but that does not mean I want to go back to the days of Assembler. I remember in the early days, I still had to write in Assembler for the speed when it came to screen handling functions (good old character based UI's ;) ). But that and some IO routines where all I needed and could build the rest in C/C++. Sames goes for now, if I need something blistering fast, I could spend the extra development time and code in C/C++, but for most work C# fills the bill with far less work. For me, it has been years since I needed C/C++. Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
Rocky Moore wrote: (good old character based UI's ) I still miss the old DOS days... things were a lot simpler then :((. Just set an int ptr to the video buffer memory address and write directly to the screen! onwards and upwards...
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Rocky Moore wrote: (good old character based UI's ) I still miss the old DOS days... things were a lot simpler then :((. Just set an int ptr to the video buffer memory address and write directly to the screen! onwards and upwards...
basementman wrote: I still miss the old DOS days Me too. Having to deal with himem.sys versioning, having to edit boot.ini and config.sys to get games to work, setting IRQs to get hardware to work, ah those were the days... ;)
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I found: However, Theimer said the cluster version will include some restrictions on how the version can be used to prevent companies from performing standard Web hosting or other functions. Interesting.. Why would the want to limit it I wonder. Most people should know that C# will be a little slower (and sometimes many fold) than C/C++. That said though C/C++ is slower and far bulkier than Assembler, but that does not mean I want to go back to the days of Assembler. I remember in the early days, I still had to write in Assembler for the speed when it came to screen handling functions (good old character based UI's ;) ). But that and some IO routines where all I needed and could build the rest in C/C++. Sames goes for now, if I need something blistering fast, I could spend the extra development time and code in C/C++, but for most work C# fills the bill with far less work. For me, it has been years since I needed C/C++. Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
basementman wrote: letting developers write software using the C# programming language So what am I writing already in the C# programming language?
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basementman wrote: I still miss the old DOS days Me too. Having to deal with himem.sys versioning, having to edit boot.ini and config.sys to get games to work, setting IRQs to get hardware to work, ah those were the days... ;)
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Yep, exactly! ;) We had the problems to deal with back then just as today, but our apps had no where near the functionality or expectations of apps of today. You were cool if you have a popdown menu or could actually print from your application ;) Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
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I don't see a need to update old code base though, just to stay current with the latest buzzwords - it has to be a tangible improvement in productivity vs. the penalty of slow code.
Yeah, some old code can be enhanced if moved to .NET, but it really depends on the app. For an example, I do not see a lot of need to move MS Word to .NET. On the other hand there are apps that can gain quite a bit of functionality by moving them to .NET. It all depends on the app. Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
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basementman wrote: letting developers write software using the C# programming language So what am I writing already in the C# programming language?
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Theimer also outlined Microsoft's goals for two follow-up versions. The next version of the Compute Cluster edition will extend to Microsoft's .Net programming infrastructure, letting developers write software using the C# programming language, he said. Although such code runs more slowly than C programs running directly on Windows, writing programs in C# that run atop .Net is easier and more secure. Often, Theimer said, it's more important to have a program as soon as possible than to have it running at peak performance, he said. onwards and upwards...
Crikey, I made the final move from MFC/C++ just over 2 years ago, no looking back. If developers you are still clinging on to C++, well the writings on the wall for you folks. C# and the .net framework are here to stay and will propergate to more and more of the M$ O/S and application infrastructures. Do go against the grain go with it.
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I found: However, Theimer said the cluster version will include some restrictions on how the version can be used to prevent companies from performing standard Web hosting or other functions. Interesting.. Why would the want to limit it I wonder. Most people should know that C# will be a little slower (and sometimes many fold) than C/C++. That said though C/C++ is slower and far bulkier than Assembler, but that does not mean I want to go back to the days of Assembler. I remember in the early days, I still had to write in Assembler for the speed when it came to screen handling functions (good old character based UI's ;) ). But that and some IO routines where all I needed and could build the rest in C/C++. Sames goes for now, if I need something blistering fast, I could spend the extra development time and code in C/C++, but for most work C# fills the bill with far less work. For me, it has been years since I needed C/C++. Rocky <>< Idea / Invention: Business Backup Solution..[^]
Rocky Moore wrote: However, Theimer said the cluster version will include some restrictions on how the version can be used to prevent companies from performing standard Web hosting or other functions. Interesting.. Why would the want to limit it I wonder. Presumably MS will be selling the cluster version at a lower price than Web Edition, Standard Edition or Enterprise Edition. After all, I'd guess that you'll need one licence per compute cluster node. The aim is to create inexpensive compute clusters, not to undercut the existing editions. If you want IIS, Domain Controller, Infrastructure or File/Print Server capabilities, you need to pay for them. Stability. What an interesting concept. -- Chris Maunder