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    Jim Crafton
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    Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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      Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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      Brigg Thorp
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      One word...VMWare! Actually, I have no idea if it will work, but I test stuff like this on VMWare before I put it on my actual hard driver partition. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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        One word...VMWare! Actually, I have no idea if it will work, but I test stuff like this on VMWare before I put it on my actual hard driver partition. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation

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        Jim Crafton
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        Excellent idea! Sadly we're not allowed anything like that at work, so it's either install it (while saying a Hail Mary and crossing my fingers) or wait till I get home where it's a none issue. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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        • J Jim Crafton

          Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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          Zdeslav Vojkovic
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          i have them installed side-by-side since last week, and it seems that they are not clashing, but i'm not impressed with beta2, especially with performance (slow as hell) and stability (crashed 2 times in first 30 minutes, just by clicking some options in Options dialog)

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            i have them installed side-by-side since last week, and it seems that they are not clashing, but i'm not impressed with beta2, especially with performance (slow as hell) and stability (crashed 2 times in first 30 minutes, just by clicking some options in Options dialog)

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            Graham Bradshaw
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            Zdeslav Vojkovic wrote: i'm not impressed with beta2, especially with performance Most Microsoft beta code is chock full of debugging information, which drags it down a bit:doh:. For a real giggle, try installing a checked build of a beta of an operating system...

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              Excellent idea! Sadly we're not allowed anything like that at work, so it's either install it (while saying a Hail Mary and crossing my fingers) or wait till I get home where it's a none issue. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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              Dennis C Dietrich
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              Jim Crafton wrote: Excellent idea! Sadly we're not allowed anything like that at work, so it's either install it (while saying a Hail Mary and crossing my fingers) or wait till I get home where it's a none issue. No offense, but you are not allowed to run VMware (maybe you're allowed to run Virtual PC ;-)) but at the same time you may run beta software? How does that fit together? Anyway, I also have VS .NET 2003 and VS 2005 Beta 2 on the same machine and no problems so far (in fact, I even had VS .NET 2003 and VS 2005 Beta 1 on the same machine). Best regards Dennis

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                Jim Crafton wrote: Excellent idea! Sadly we're not allowed anything like that at work, so it's either install it (while saying a Hail Mary and crossing my fingers) or wait till I get home where it's a none issue. No offense, but you are not allowed to run VMware (maybe you're allowed to run Virtual PC ;-)) but at the same time you may run beta software? How does that fit together? Anyway, I also have VS .NET 2003 and VS 2005 Beta 2 on the same machine and no problems so far (in fact, I even had VS .NET 2003 and VS 2005 Beta 1 on the same machine). Best regards Dennis

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                Jim Crafton
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                Dennis C. Dietrich wrote: ut you are not allowed to run VMware (maybe you're allowed to run Virtual PC ) but at the same time you may run beta software? How does that fit together? It doesn't make much sense does it? I have been told that there's concern that somehow VMware will take over the network, cause problems, make hte Moon fall, etc (pick your favorite network disaster). Whatever, it's not worth fighting over. I think I'll just wait anyways, not sure it sounds worth installing anyhow. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                  Paul Watson
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                  Works fine for me (all ASP.NET stuff though, haven't tried Windows Forms.) regards, Paul Watson South Africa PMW Photography Gary Wheeler wrote: It's people like you that keep me heading for my big debut on CNN...

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                    Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                    Marc Clifton
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                    The only problem I've found is that after installing the VS2005 beta 1, the VS2003 MSI projects spit out some error messages, unfortunately requiring a click on a dialog, but then proceed along happily. Don't know if they've fixed this with beta 2. The other problem a friend had was after installing beta 2, which installs SQL2005, his SQL2000 installation stopped working. But he might have been doing something strange, or might have been trying to install SQL2000 after installing beta 2. I'm not sure. Something to be aware of though, I guess, as he had to completely uninstall everything. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                      Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Oh, one more thing. ASP.NET development is hosed. There's something somewhere about how to tell IIS which .NET framework you really want to use. Again, this is something someone else encountered. I don't recall the link that talked about fixing the problem. Marc MyXaml Advanced Unit Testing YAPO

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                        Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                        Frank Hileman
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                        I believe one should never install any Microsoft beta of any product on any partition you need to use every day for development. They have a reputation for messing things up to the point where you need to re-install Windows, or the CLR, or your applications. Sometimes everything goes well, but you never know -- until several weeks later when all the problems have surfaced, and too late for you. Maybe it works fine for everyone except your particular configuration. Why take a chance? Build a new partition. check out VG.net: www.vgdotnet.com An animated vector graphics system integrated in VS.net

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                          Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          I'm doing it and it's fine. Only thing is that VS 2005 takes over file associations, but that's no biggie. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            Anyone know if it's "safe" to install VS 2005 beta 2 on a dev machine with VS 2003 on it? Or will I just be screwing myself? Anyone else tried it? I just recieved it in the mail today and I am curious about installing it. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!

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                            Matt Newman
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                            I'm doing it right now. Works fine for me. Matt Newman
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                              I'm doing it and it's fine. Only thing is that VS 2005 takes over file associations, but that's no biggie. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Chris Maunder wrote: I'm doing it and it's fine. Using Virtual PC, right?

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                                Chris Maunder wrote: I'm doing it and it's fine. Using Virtual PC, right?

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                                Nope. Straight up. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                  Zdeslav Vojkovic wrote: i'm not impressed with beta2, especially with performance Most Microsoft beta code is chock full of debugging information, which drags it down a bit:doh:. For a real giggle, try installing a checked build of a beta of an operating system...

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                                  Zdeslav Vojkovic
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                                  i'm aware of it, and even worse, management has decided to use beta2 for development, and it seems that they won't take 'no' for answer. my paranoia level is already reaching 10...

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                                    Nope. Straight up. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    Nish Nishant
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                                    Chris Maunder wrote: Nope. Straight up. :eek:

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                                      Chris Maunder wrote: I'm doing it and it's fine. Using Virtual PC, right?

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      We've tried it, but as we're doing add-in development we need images with at least VS2003, VS2005 and VSS on the machine. Quite frankly for us it's worth risking one machine to do this rather than using VPC in this case. Anna :rose: Riverblade Ltd - Software Consultancy Services Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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                                        Nope. Straight up. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        Roland Bar
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