.NET licensing?
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Okay I'm SURE this is a FAQ, so I apologize...I'm just hunting for information on the licensing by MS associated with .NET projects. I'm hearing some huge, ugly numbers, and I want to find out for myself just what's involved in the shift over to a .NET strategy (from a managerial pov) for a report to my boss.. I'm a developer by trade, but I'm getting hounded by more and more questions about the .NET "strategy", so I'd like to be able to give back some numbers to help them out.. I couldn't find anything on MS's official site, but that's not saying much as I can NEVER find anything on their site...;P thanks, Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
i think those "huge, ugly" numbers were the prices MS is charging for people who want to hook into the whole Passport ID system. i haven't heard of any charges (other than the Visual Studio licenses) for generic .Net development. (no references, sorry) -c
#define O 0.05 #define I(c) putchar(c) main(){int I(int);double l[6];char lO[5];for(*(lO+1)=0;*(lO+1)<'2';I(0x0A),(*(l+5))=-25*O+((*(lO+1) )++)*O)for((*(lO+2))=0;(*(lO+2))<'2';(*(l+4))=-40.*O+((*(lO+2))++)*O){for((*(l))=(*(l+1))=0, *(lO)=1;++*(lO)&&(((*(l+2))=((*(l))*(*(l))))+((*(l+3))=((*(l+1))*(*(l+1))))<4.);(*(l+1))=(*( l))*(*(l+1))+(*(l+5))+(*(l+1))*(*(l)),(*(l))=((*(l+2))-(*(l+3)))+(*(l+4)));I((*(lO)?42:0x20));}}
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i think those "huge, ugly" numbers were the prices MS is charging for people who want to hook into the whole Passport ID system. i haven't heard of any charges (other than the Visual Studio licenses) for generic .Net development. (no references, sorry) -c
#define O 0.05 #define I(c) putchar(c) main(){int I(int);double l[6];char lO[5];for(*(lO+1)=0;*(lO+1)<'2';I(0x0A),(*(l+5))=-25*O+((*(lO+1) )++)*O)for((*(lO+2))=0;(*(lO+2))<'2';(*(l+4))=-40.*O+((*(lO+2))++)*O){for((*(l))=(*(l+1))=0, *(lO)=1;++*(lO)&&(((*(l+2))=((*(l))*(*(l))))+((*(l+3))=((*(l+1))*(*(l+1))))<4.);(*(l+1))=(*( l))*(*(l+1))+(*(l+5))+(*(l+1))*(*(l)),(*(l))=((*(l+2))-(*(l+3)))+(*(l+4)));I((*(lO)?42:0x20));}}
I was hoping it was only something like that. A friend of mine was trying to convince me over the weekend that the licensing fee affected EVERY developer on the .NET platform (not just those subscribing to the Passport features).. I hope this doesn't prove to be the case. It would push people over to looking into Java solutions for sure.. Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
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I was hoping it was only something like that. A friend of mine was trying to convince me over the weekend that the licensing fee affected EVERY developer on the .NET platform (not just those subscribing to the Passport features).. I hope this doesn't prove to be the case. It would push people over to looking into Java solutions for sure.. Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
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Okay I'm SURE this is a FAQ, so I apologize...I'm just hunting for information on the licensing by MS associated with .NET projects. I'm hearing some huge, ugly numbers, and I want to find out for myself just what's involved in the shift over to a .NET strategy (from a managerial pov) for a report to my boss.. I'm a developer by trade, but I'm getting hounded by more and more questions about the .NET "strategy", so I'd like to be able to give back some numbers to help them out.. I couldn't find anything on MS's official site, but that's not saying much as I can NEVER find anything on their site...;P thanks, Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
hey... even though it's not on codeproject.. http://www.codeguru.com/\_conf/pdc2001/PDC1023b.html
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Okay I'm SURE this is a FAQ, so I apologize...I'm just hunting for information on the licensing by MS associated with .NET projects. I'm hearing some huge, ugly numbers, and I want to find out for myself just what's involved in the shift over to a .NET strategy (from a managerial pov) for a report to my boss.. I'm a developer by trade, but I'm getting hounded by more and more questions about the .NET "strategy", so I'd like to be able to give back some numbers to help them out.. I couldn't find anything on MS's official site, but that's not saying much as I can NEVER find anything on their site...;P thanks, Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
Microsoft has only announced pricing for ".NET My Services" which is a set of services formerly known as 'Hailstorm'. You need not use those services if you don't want or need them, and you need not pay for them if you aren't using them. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
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hey... even though it's not on codeproject.. http://www.codeguru.com/\_conf/pdc2001/PDC1023b.html
Thanks for the link I'll check it out... So the licensing should only apply to projects using "Hailstorm"?? That would imply that this subset of .NET infrastructure is/might be quite usefull... HOW usefull is .NET WITHOUT the "Hailstorm" piece?? ie. if you don't subscribe then the remaining "free" packages for .NET are pretty much worthless??? (Obviously it depends what you want to do, etc...I just meant this in broad terms).. If this was answered in the link posted previously, then forgive me, I haven't checked it out yet...:) Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
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Microsoft has only announced pricing for ".NET My Services" which is a set of services formerly known as 'Hailstorm'. You need not use those services if you don't want or need them, and you need not pay for them if you aren't using them. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?
".NET My Services"? Who comes up with these names?
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Okay I'm SURE this is a FAQ, so I apologize...I'm just hunting for information on the licensing by MS associated with .NET projects. I'm hearing some huge, ugly numbers, and I want to find out for myself just what's involved in the shift over to a .NET strategy (from a managerial pov) for a report to my boss.. I'm a developer by trade, but I'm getting hounded by more and more questions about the .NET "strategy", so I'd like to be able to give back some numbers to help them out.. I couldn't find anything on MS's official site, but that's not saying much as I can NEVER find anything on their site...;P thanks, Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
Hi Erik, Those huge, ugly numbers revolve around .NET My Services, not creating your own .NET projects. Developers discover the cost of .Net I think it is bad that even ZDNet is confusing people over .NET and .NET My Services. Microsoft is doing a good job of bambooziling people as well. However seeing as MS are pushing .NET My Services so hard, and frankly I like their idea (though not the pricing), it is inevitable that a project you create may contain a request for integration with a .NET My Service. Then you will have to pay. So .NET projects have no pricing, yet. .NET My Services development does. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge "In other words, the developer is dealing with an elephant, the accountant is dealing with a bunny rabbit." by Stan Shannon - 16/10/2001
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".NET My Services"? Who comes up with these names?
The same people who came up with a technology sounding identical to domain naming conventions..:) Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
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Thanks for the link I'll check it out... So the licensing should only apply to projects using "Hailstorm"?? That would imply that this subset of .NET infrastructure is/might be quite usefull... HOW usefull is .NET WITHOUT the "Hailstorm" piece?? ie. if you don't subscribe then the remaining "free" packages for .NET are pretty much worthless??? (Obviously it depends what you want to do, etc...I just meant this in broad terms).. If this was answered in the link posted previously, then forgive me, I haven't checked it out yet...:) Erik As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.
Well, you can read here: http://www.microsoft.com/myservices/services/userexperiences.asp I personally do not see any of these services being worth it unless a large majority of web sites start taking advantage of them. It's kind of a chicken and egg scenario. Personally, I think MS should be providing the services free for the first year or two and get people to use them, then transition into a pay service. Then you can decide if the services are worthwhile or not. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?