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  • N Nish Nishant

    Been thinking of our future. Humanity's future. There are people who think we'll vanish before 2200. Well assume that we live for another 50,000 years. That's not much, not at all! The dinosaurs were on this planet for well over 50 million years [even this might be a low estimate]. If you look at it that way, rthe dinosaurs were greater achievers in the sense that they lasted 1000 times more than we did with less than a millionth of our brain capacity. I wish I could be frozen when I am 35 and then warmed back alive after 1 million years. What do I expect? Alien-looking future-humans? Intelligent Insects? A dead planet? Or will I see the sun go nova? Or will I see Colin trying to sell VMTU to some semi-intelligent plants from alaska? Just makes you wonder.... Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain

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    Erik Funkenbusch
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    This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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      This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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      David Wulff
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      I've talked with Bob, and he assures me that the Cadbury Planetary Aliegance will protect us from the little green men. The little penquins though are another matter altogether - they are set to destroy the world. David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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        This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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        rcVu
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        Scientific American has a good article on why life is so hard to achieve. This means that space exploration alone won't do us any good. We need at least another 100 years to be able to create the correct materials, and overcome this gravity thing that holds us close to our planet, and won't let us go up fast and cheap. Anyway, we can really survive for that long a time anyway, it looks like we'll be in a new cold age soon (50-100 years), If we don't have a nuclear winter sooner that is. However, even when we disappear, and our planet gives birth to something, else, and then again, and again. All energy gets moved around in different types of matter, everything decays (at the quantum level), and eventually everything (including us) will disappear. There is nothing we can do, Not now, not ever, once the decay is over, there will be nothing in the universe just nothing. I don't remember exactly how long it will take, but ask a theoretical physicist and they will tell you. I like to read physics books, and I read this on many of them ((http://www.mkaku.org/ Michiu Kaku’s black holes, worm holes and the 10th dimension is one of them, short and very easy to read). Therefore, no matter what we do, or what anybody does, eventually we'll all disintegrate into nothing. I try to recycle and save watter and Im buying on of those hybrid cards (im going for the insight), not that it'll make a big difference. But even a small difference is better than no difference at all.

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          Scientific American has a good article on why life is so hard to achieve. This means that space exploration alone won't do us any good. We need at least another 100 years to be able to create the correct materials, and overcome this gravity thing that holds us close to our planet, and won't let us go up fast and cheap. Anyway, we can really survive for that long a time anyway, it looks like we'll be in a new cold age soon (50-100 years), If we don't have a nuclear winter sooner that is. However, even when we disappear, and our planet gives birth to something, else, and then again, and again. All energy gets moved around in different types of matter, everything decays (at the quantum level), and eventually everything (including us) will disappear. There is nothing we can do, Not now, not ever, once the decay is over, there will be nothing in the universe just nothing. I don't remember exactly how long it will take, but ask a theoretical physicist and they will tell you. I like to read physics books, and I read this on many of them ((http://www.mkaku.org/ Michiu Kaku’s black holes, worm holes and the 10th dimension is one of them, short and very easy to read). Therefore, no matter what we do, or what anybody does, eventually we'll all disintegrate into nothing. I try to recycle and save watter and Im buying on of those hybrid cards (im going for the insight), not that it'll make a big difference. But even a small difference is better than no difference at all.

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          rcVu is right in that everything is dead later it is a good point ,we should do good things . the matter i raised also was : why don't we think of after our life i really have a solid matter exactly what rcVU said you can email me if you like to talk about that .my email linx5551@firstlinux.net Thanks Amy

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            rcVu is right in that everything is dead later it is a good point ,we should do good things . the matter i raised also was : why don't we think of after our life i really have a solid matter exactly what rcVU said you can email me if you like to talk about that .my email linx5551@firstlinux.net Thanks Amy

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            The point is not only 'why don't we think of what happens after our life', but also 'why don't we think of what happends to others after we die'. I think if everyone lived to 200 there would be a vastly different mindset. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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            • E Erik Funkenbusch

              This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. Even if we don't destroy the earth, the day is coming when an Earth Extinction Event will occur (asteroid, comet, little green men with big energy weapons ;) -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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              Nish Nishant
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              This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. True. Very true. I am in total agreement. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain

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              • N Nish Nishant

                Been thinking of our future. Humanity's future. There are people who think we'll vanish before 2200. Well assume that we live for another 50,000 years. That's not much, not at all! The dinosaurs were on this planet for well over 50 million years [even this might be a low estimate]. If you look at it that way, rthe dinosaurs were greater achievers in the sense that they lasted 1000 times more than we did with less than a millionth of our brain capacity. I wish I could be frozen when I am 35 and then warmed back alive after 1 million years. What do I expect? Alien-looking future-humans? Intelligent Insects? A dead planet? Or will I see the sun go nova? Or will I see Colin trying to sell VMTU to some semi-intelligent plants from alaska? Just makes you wonder.... Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain

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                Daniel Turini
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                Hey, think about it: what would you do if you know that you'll die tomorrow ? Hey, humanity will vanish tomorrow ? YEAH, PARTY !!!!!! Think about the possibilities. And I don't give a **** if my grand-grand-grand-grand son will live 1, 2, 50 or 150 years. I won't be here anymore. Nor you. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  This is why I feel that space exploration and colonization will be essential to the survival of man. While we very well might destroy the earth some day, if we're too spread out across the galaxy, at least *SOME* of us will survive. True. Very true. I am in total agreement. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain

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                  Andrew Torrance
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                  If Einstien is right and that travel at high speed means that time slows down , then who the hell will go on these forays into deep space knowing that if they ever return all their friends and family will be dead ? It would be nice to have a faster than light travel , but according to current physics it is not clear that such travel is a practical possibility , some people theorise that it might be possible , but her now , it most certainly is not. Therefore given not only our current technology but our current understanding of physics then intertellar travel is not possible. We must be careful notto confuse what we would like to happen with what is physically possible. We are marooned on this planet and we are screwing it up in the groundless hope that future generations will find another one for them to screw up for themselves.

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    The point is not only 'why don't we think of what happens after our life', but also 'why don't we think of what happends to others after we die'. I think if everyone lived to 200 there would be a vastly different mindset. cheers, Chris Maunder (CodeProject)

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                    David Wulff
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                    Well said! David Wulff, Founder of The BLA dwulff@battleaxesoftware.com New's flash - Bob caught in kitchen incident.

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                      Hey, think about it: what would you do if you know that you'll die tomorrow ? Hey, humanity will vanish tomorrow ? YEAH, PARTY !!!!!! Think about the possibilities. And I don't give a **** if my grand-grand-grand-grand son will live 1, 2, 50 or 150 years. I won't be here anymore. Nor you. Furor fit laesa saepius patientia

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                      Erik Yuzwa
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                      unless all those stories of Reincarnation happen to be true... Wouldn't it be grand to be reincarnated as a tree and watch yourself getting pissed on by dogs, and eaten by termites, dug in by squirrels and puked on by prats from a Frat house?? What fun. "Oh death, where is thy sting?" How this has to do with the future of humanity I have no clue, I was making an aside comment..:) As Borusa always said, There's nothing more useless than a lock with a voice print.

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