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  • P Paul Watson

    My main 60 gig HD is simply not enough storage for me anymore. Has not been for a long time but it took the toppling of my DVD stack, now roughly 5 feet high, to make me realise just how inadequate it is. So I am on the hunt for a good external storage device. PCMag gives the Maxtor OneTouch II External USB Drive[^] a good review and it is reasonably priced even here in South Africa. Have couple questions I do:

    1. Forget the backup software. I can access it like any other drive through Windows Explorer, right?
    2. I want to store PSDs (Photoshop files) on it. They average in at about 30 megabytes each. Any idea if I will be able to edit them directly from the external drive or whether I will have to copy them to my main drive for editing and then back for storage?
    3. Can I reliably play music files stored on the drive?
    4. Is the extra price for the FireWire option worth it? (My PC has FireWire support.)
    5. You get external drives and you get Network Attached Storage devices. The latter is often more expensive but occasionally not a whole lot more. Functionality aside which type generally performs better. The USB/FireWire or the Ethernet connection*?

    Can anybody recommend other good external drives you have used? ta. * Sure you get different NICs 10/100, gigabit etc. but generally speaking. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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    Madhu Cheriyedath
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    I got a Maxtor OneTouch II External USB Drive from my company as a back up drive. Overall I am satisfied with the performance. I didn't install the software came with the drive. Just use windows explorer and copy the files. I have Virtual PC 2004 installed in my laptop and the location of the virtual hard drive(.vhd file) is in this external drive. sometimes I run windows from that external drive (through Virtual PC) and use this extra virtual machine for my testing. I found the performance satisfactory(I allocated 512 MB RAM for the virtual machine when it is running). -Madhu.

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    • P Paul Watson

      My main 60 gig HD is simply not enough storage for me anymore. Has not been for a long time but it took the toppling of my DVD stack, now roughly 5 feet high, to make me realise just how inadequate it is. So I am on the hunt for a good external storage device. PCMag gives the Maxtor OneTouch II External USB Drive[^] a good review and it is reasonably priced even here in South Africa. Have couple questions I do:

      1. Forget the backup software. I can access it like any other drive through Windows Explorer, right?
      2. I want to store PSDs (Photoshop files) on it. They average in at about 30 megabytes each. Any idea if I will be able to edit them directly from the external drive or whether I will have to copy them to my main drive for editing and then back for storage?
      3. Can I reliably play music files stored on the drive?
      4. Is the extra price for the FireWire option worth it? (My PC has FireWire support.)
      5. You get external drives and you get Network Attached Storage devices. The latter is often more expensive but occasionally not a whole lot more. Functionality aside which type generally performs better. The USB/FireWire or the Ethernet connection*?

      Can anybody recommend other good external drives you have used? ta. * Sure you get different NICs 10/100, gigabit etc. but generally speaking. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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      fakefur
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      I just ordered an external 160Gb LaCie firewire drive for $130. I have the LaCie firewire DVD Writer and it rocks.

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      • L Lost User

        I buy USB 2 Kits[^] and regular 7200 RPM drives. It ends up being lots cheaper than buying a stand-alone external drive (although bulkier) and I can always replace the drive if I need a bigger one down the road (or if it dies). They are fast, but not nearly as fast as a PATA or SATA drive inside your machine. You can definitely edit directly off of them though. Network attached drives will likely be significantly slower. 100BaseT Ethernet is 100 Mbits per second. USB 2 is rated at 480 Mbits per second max. (but usually about half of that in the real world). So unless you have Gigabit Ethernet and can find a cheap Gigabit network attached drive, don't bother. Cheers, Drew.

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        Dan Neely
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        Drew Stainton wrote: They are fast, but not nearly as fast as a PATA or SATA drive inside your machine. You can definitely edit directly off of them though. Is this true for sustained traffic, or just bursts? I know ata will quickly saturate a HDs io buffer, and thought firewire/usb2 were also fast enough to do the same.

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        • C Colin Angus Mackay

          The sys-admin where I would would go off in to a rant for half an hour if you mention Maxtor drives to him. He won't touch them.


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          Me too. They failed to often at me, work & home.


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          • D Dan Neely

            Drew Stainton wrote: They are fast, but not nearly as fast as a PATA or SATA drive inside your machine. You can definitely edit directly off of them though. Is this true for sustained traffic, or just bursts? I know ata will quickly saturate a HDs io buffer, and thought firewire/usb2 were also fast enough to do the same.

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            Lost User
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            I think you're right. I just tried copying a 750 MB file - once from the USB 2 drive and once from an internal drive - they took exactly the same amount of time. This was on a 1.6 GHz P4 with a PCI USB2 card. On my primary machine (3.4 GHz with built in USB 2.0 and a RAID 0+1 cluster (4x160 GB 7200 RPM SATA drives with 8 MB cache) the USB2 drive was about 25% slower - to be expected with the speed gains the RAID cluster provides. Cheers, Drew.

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            • C Colin Angus Mackay

              The sys-admin where I would would go off in to a rant for half an hour if you mention Maxtor drives to him. He won't touch them.


              My: Blog | Photos WDevs.com - Open Source Code Hosting, Blogs, FTP, Mail and More

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              Lost User
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              Colin Angus Mackay wrote: if you mention Maxtor drives to him. He won't touch them. That always cracks me up. It's like the anti-Ford/anti-Chevy zealots. "My uncle Bill had a ford and it broke down twice so all Fords are terrible. My Chevy hasn't broken down so Chevy's are great." To date I've had a couple of Maxtors blow on me, a Seagate and a couple of Western Digitals. Maxtor has replaced all the drives through their online warranty program, Western Digital was a little more difficult - I don't remember what happened with the Seagate. I think they're basically all the same. I buy the ones that are on sale - and back stuff up frequently. Cheers, Drew

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              • L Lost User

                I think you're right. I just tried copying a 750 MB file - once from the USB 2 drive and once from an internal drive - they took exactly the same amount of time. This was on a 1.6 GHz P4 with a PCI USB2 card. On my primary machine (3.4 GHz with built in USB 2.0 and a RAID 0+1 cluster (4x160 GB 7200 RPM SATA drives with 8 MB cache) the USB2 drive was about 25% slower - to be expected with the speed gains the RAID cluster provides. Cheers, Drew.

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                Dan Neely
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                That sounds about right. I wonder how much I'll gain with the raid5 I plan to setup in the near future. 4x160GB, 7200RPM, EIDE. It'll probably be a month before I can try it out since I need a bigger case, the raidcard, and probably a new PSU to run everything first. The drives are only $50 each after rebate games. :) I wish I could find adaptors to connect the drives to an sata card though. The IDE version's about $60 more, and will be obsoleted by the time I need to upgrade again.

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