No typedef in C# 2.0

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

There's still typing involved with generics. If you try

List<int> l = new List<double>();

you will get the error

error CS0029: Cannot implicitly convert type 'System.Collections.Generic.List<double>' to 'System.Collections.Generic.List<int>'

No matter how you implement generics, you must make types out of them, considering the fact that .NET is strongly typed. A typedef would be merely an alias for a type, and should in my point of view, not be that hard to implement. Good music: In my rosary[^]

[Matt Newman]

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: C# != C++; :wtf: OMG are you serious?!?!?! I thought the # was just a cool way of drawing two +'s :rolleyes: Matt Newman
Even the very best tools in the hands of an idiot will produce something of little or no value. - Chris Meech on Idiots

[Matt Gerrans]

Wouldn't it be C++++ in that case? :-D Matt Gerrans

[Nemanja Trifunovic]

It is my understanding that one of the major goals of C# team is to keep their language relatively small and easy to learn, even at the price of omitting some useful and powerful features.

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[Long Gone]

Matt Newman wrote: OMG are you serious?!?!?! I thought the # was just a cool way of drawing two +'s :laugh: Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

[Long Gone]

Matt Gerrans wrote: Wouldn't it be C++++ in that case? Only if you write C## Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

[Matt Gerrans]

Look more closely. Matt Gerrans

[Rei Miyasaka]

Remember in the Windows API how when you hunt through the jumble of typedefs and #defines, ints and HANDLEs and DWORDs and FAR and a bunch of other stuff turn to be the same thing? Or how MessageBox() and MessageBoxA() and _MessageBox() and __MessageBox() were all the same thing? I think the goal is to discourage that sort of thing. It'd be easy to use but it'd also be easier to abuse. Integrity is a key design objective in .NET.

[Paul Selormey]

typedef will be misleading. Anytime you do List<int> in C++, the compiler generates a class for you at compile time. The typedef in C++ is simply doing what the compiler will be doing anyway, but giving the generated class of the type List<int> a name you can remember. The Generics is designed to avoid the compile time class emitting, so throwing in a typedef will give a wrong image. This my understanding of the Generics concept and why it is maintained like that in MC++/CLR-C++ along side templates. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.

[Long Gone]

Matt Newman wrote: I thought the # was just a cool way of drawing two +'s # => ++ so ## => ++++ Matt Gerrans wrote: Look more closely. Obviously I am missing something. P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

[Vagif Abilov]

Agree. How many various 32-bit types will we find in Win SDK headers. I guess several hundred. Вагиф Абилов MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey.

[Matt Gerrans]

Obviously:

# == ++ == ++++
++

QED ;P Matt Gerrans

[Rei Miyasaka]

Or you can take 2 +s, extend the lines and arrange them diagonally:

| | | |
-+--- | -+--+-
| + | = | |
| ---+- -+--+-
| | | |

[Matt Gerrans]

Two distorted +'s perhaps. Matt Gerrans

[Rei Miyasaka]

:)

[Giles]

I could see how that would be very useful, and help clean up code readability. Something I take for granted in C++, and don't think about. Personally, I would quite like a preprocessor as well.

[Emilio Garavaglia]

"Interity" or "Integralism"? What's the matter with a type name redefinition for my own use, if it is closed in my own namespace? The (ab)use of type redefinition in Win32 derived from the fact that it was designed in flat namespace environment (plain C). All the consideration about templates and generics are correct, but the idea to alias a frequently used name dosn't semm to me so peregrine. My opinion is that ... they simply forgot it. And we are trying to justify them by "inventing" forcing anyone to use "patterns" also when not the case. And calling this "intrgrity". Did The "goto" history, blamed by zealots and rewed recently, teach anything ?? 2 bugs found. > recompile ... 65534 bugs found. :doh:

[Long Gone]

Good one!:) P.S. – for all you anal retentive folks out there tempted to comment on my spelling or grammar save your energy. I don’t care. Don't shoot! I'm only the piano player messenger. Beatress

[Jorgen Sigvardsson]

The thing is though that we ain't supposed to know that they're 32 bits wide.. ;P Good music: In my rosary[^]

[Daniel Grunwald]

It's called using, not typedef: using StringPair = System.Collections.Generic.KeyValuePair<string, string>;