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  • T Tad McClellan

    I once heard someone say that contractors are programmers who could not get permanent jobs. I know that sounds inflammatory but I don't mean it to be. Wouldn't you always want a permanent job though given the benefits and all?

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    I think many programmers here would consider themselves more "code poets"... like writers who don't want to work for a sports mag or the local newspaper. I find many devs here are very brave (at least in my eyes) to have the juevos to be their own boss. Personally, I like the stability and the benefits, and I really like working for a big company (surprisingly enough). I know the dinero's there for those who wanna take the risk, but that's life... ~Nitron.


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      I think many programmers here would consider themselves more "code poets"... like writers who don't want to work for a sports mag or the local newspaper. I find many devs here are very brave (at least in my eyes) to have the juevos to be their own boss. Personally, I like the stability and the benefits, and I really like working for a big company (surprisingly enough). I know the dinero's there for those who wanna take the risk, but that's life... ~Nitron.


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      Tad McClellan
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      I think your right in that for those people who can make it as a contractor and do well then good for them. I would imagine that there are more that don't. I doubt I could, which is why I am glad I have a full time position.

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        What you should most definitely do is read his early articles. That was back in the day when he would ask me questions about XML. I've still got this huge pride issue about teaching Marc Clifton something... :rolleyes:


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        David Stone wrote: I've still got this huge pride issue about teaching Marc Clifton something... :-D

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        • T Tad McClellan

          I once heard someone say that contractors are programmers who could not get permanent jobs. I know that sounds inflammatory but I don't mean it to be. Wouldn't you always want a permanent job though given the benefits and all?

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          Phil Harding
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          I think you'll find that most contractors do it as a lifestyle choice, and shudder at the thought of being a permanent employee. I've found contractors generally fall into 2 camps: - - Those who do it for a quick buck, for a few years. - Those for whom contracting (working for ones self) is a career choice. Al Einstien wrote: contractors are programmers who could not get permanent jobs Yeah, these people fall into the 1st category and their primary skill is the art of the "blag" :) Phil Harding.
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          • T Tad McClellan

            I once heard someone say that contractors are programmers who could not get permanent jobs. I know that sounds inflammatory but I don't mean it to be. Wouldn't you always want a permanent job though given the benefits and all?

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            Actually, I think it is due to a desire to be independent. Many years ago (back before the industrial age) it seemed like everyone had their own business of some form be it a farm, ranch, store, etc. In more modern times, we are brainwashed at young ages that you need to find an employer, work hard to build their business and hopefully retire then finally enjoy life. The old idea of owning your own business and being your own boss was lost for most people. Computers luckily allow many to be their own boss and own their own lucrative business (providing you have the skill and business since -- I am still working on the latter ;) ) with little or no startup capital. It is not for everyone, but for those that still enjoy the idea of independence, it is worth the risks. In addition, I believe that contractors actually need more skills than demanded by many positions, as they are the first line of cuts in a budget and usually carry more responsibility than staffers. They also are the first blamed if things go wrong and the last credited when things go good. Of course, this is dependant on the type of contracts. Rocky <>< My Blog[^]

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              Make that unpaid vacation. regards, Paul Watson South Africa Colib and WebTwoZero. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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              The trick is to charge enough to cover your vacations.


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