I AM SICK OF THIS
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
OMalleyW wrote: If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Nobody knows. It should be feature that VS format your code html code. This feature is removed in VS 2005 because almost nobody likes it. Brian Goldfarb(MS) said that it tooks 18 months to remove that(!). I call it bug fix, they call it new feature. EDIT: Hm, I'm just thinking, html code formating was feature. Now they remove that feature and they say it's new feature. So by remove one feature we get another.:wtf: Well, maybe this is a new kind of marketing, if by remove feature you get new feature then they can progressively remove all features and at the end there will be new VS.NET 2020 with 100 new features and will do nothing.:doh: I like Microsoft and their products but sometimes I just don't understand some parts of their marketing strategy. It would be nice if they just said "OK, we screwed it up, sorry, now it's fixed". "There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income." — Milton Friedman -- modified at 15:42 Saturday 17th September, 2005
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OMalleyW wrote: If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Nobody knows. It should be feature that VS format your code html code. This feature is removed in VS 2005 because almost nobody likes it. Brian Goldfarb(MS) said that it tooks 18 months to remove that(!). I call it bug fix, they call it new feature. EDIT: Hm, I'm just thinking, html code formating was feature. Now they remove that feature and they say it's new feature. So by remove one feature we get another.:wtf: Well, maybe this is a new kind of marketing, if by remove feature you get new feature then they can progressively remove all features and at the end there will be new VS.NET 2020 with 100 new features and will do nothing.:doh: I like Microsoft and their products but sometimes I just don't understand some parts of their marketing strategy. It would be nice if they just said "OK, we screwed it up, sorry, now it's fixed". "There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income." — Milton Friedman -- modified at 15:42 Saturday 17th September, 2005
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
OMalleyW wrote: downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. Goto IIS configuration, select web site, properties, somewhere there select the runtime, click ok, restart website, and you set. xacc-ide 0.0.15 now with C#, MSIL, C, XML, ASP.NET, Nemerle, MyXaml and HLSL coloring - Screenshots
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Michal Martinka wrote: i call it a bug fix :laugh::laugh: i agree -- modified at 14:10 Saturday 17th September, 2005
OMalleyW wrote: Michal Martinka wrote: i call it a bug fix I totally agree that it is a BUG FIX!!!! PJC
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
OMalleyW wrote: STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Amen brother! I don't have a problem with the code module formatting - actually I think the whole formatting and intellisense business is really pretty well done. I used to work with a guy who insisted on writing all his VC6++ code in friggin' Notepad. What a dumbass. He probably spent half his time searching for basic typos that VS would have fixed for him while he was coding. (Then again, maybe that was a blessing - it was that much less time he had to write shitty code, LOL). But I hate working with ASP script. I try to make it readable then VS frigging turns it into a single line a zillion chars long. :mad:
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OMalleyW wrote: STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Amen brother! I don't have a problem with the code module formatting - actually I think the whole formatting and intellisense business is really pretty well done. I used to work with a guy who insisted on writing all his VC6++ code in friggin' Notepad. What a dumbass. He probably spent half his time searching for basic typos that VS would have fixed for him while he was coding. (Then again, maybe that was a blessing - it was that much less time he had to write shitty code, LOL). But I hate working with ASP script. I try to make it readable then VS frigging turns it into a single line a zillion chars long. :mad:
I am glad that I am not alone on this. I do want to say that Visual Studio as a whole is an amazing product. Being a developer I can not imagine the ammount of time and effort that went into the project. There have even been times that I had to sit back and just look in awe at this tool and what it can do... I dont want to take anything away from the product the good things far outway the bad but the bad are just so damn annoying! I can understand if I drop a control onto the screen the code being adjusted but just going from HTML to Design view...:confused: Please let me take this time to stand up and say all-in-all amazing job and I cant wait to start working with VS 2005.... Thanks for letting me rant! Will
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
Here's your fix for the ASP .Net error your getting. \WINNT\Microsoft.NET\Framework\version\aspnet_regiis -i
Some assembly required. Code-frog System Architects, Inc.
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OMalleyW wrote: If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Nobody knows. It should be feature that VS format your code html code. This feature is removed in VS 2005 because almost nobody likes it. Brian Goldfarb(MS) said that it tooks 18 months to remove that(!). I call it bug fix, they call it new feature. EDIT: Hm, I'm just thinking, html code formating was feature. Now they remove that feature and they say it's new feature. So by remove one feature we get another.:wtf: Well, maybe this is a new kind of marketing, if by remove feature you get new feature then they can progressively remove all features and at the end there will be new VS.NET 2020 with 100 new features and will do nothing.:doh: I like Microsoft and their products but sometimes I just don't understand some parts of their marketing strategy. It would be nice if they just said "OK, we screwed it up, sorry, now it's fixed". "There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income." — Milton Friedman -- modified at 15:42 Saturday 17th September, 2005
Think of it as the same as with supermarket food. Originally they added pesticides to the growing process and chemicals to keep it fresher longer and ensure that it tastes just right etc, and charged you more for these features now they do nothing like they used to call it organic and charge you more for it. Having said that it would be really nice to have a html editor that didn't rewrite/balls up eveything for you and isn't called notepad. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "So keep that smile on your face. Have a drink to help you sleep at night. They got what they desired. We're passive in their brave new world." New Model Army
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
OMalleyW wrote: If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? So bloody irritating!! At first you think it's a bug, but then you realize it's a feature!:mad: Well, if that is a feature, they should have placed a checkbox on preferrences dialog called "Mess up my code so nobody can understand anything (simple source code encryption)":doh: --- http://sprdsoft.cmar-net.org - We Sprd You Softly Our site features contents and several images. All of this is very weird. http://sprd.12.forumer.com Our forum features..err..nothing. You're welcome to contribute. In the end, war is not about who's right, it's about who's left.
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Think of it as the same as with supermarket food. Originally they added pesticides to the growing process and chemicals to keep it fresher longer and ensure that it tastes just right etc, and charged you more for these features now they do nothing like they used to call it organic and charge you more for it. Having said that it would be really nice to have a html editor that didn't rewrite/balls up eveything for you and isn't called notepad. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "So keep that smile on your face. Have a drink to help you sleep at night. They got what they desired. We're passive in their brave new world." New Model Army
Ha, the new feature paradigm :laugh:
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
OMalleyW wrote: Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? I actually did a little research into this problem some time back and found that it was caused by the braindead IE rendering engine, which is used by the VS Designer. I wish I could locate the link again... anyway, it's messed up and there's nothing you can do about it. Switch to VS.NET 2005 as soon as you can. It finally fixes it. Regards, Alvaro
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Think of it as the same as with supermarket food. Originally they added pesticides to the growing process and chemicals to keep it fresher longer and ensure that it tastes just right etc, and charged you more for these features now they do nothing like they used to call it organic and charge you more for it. Having said that it would be really nice to have a html editor that didn't rewrite/balls up eveything for you and isn't called notepad. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "So keep that smile on your face. Have a drink to help you sleep at night. They got what they desired. We're passive in their brave new world." New Model Army
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How many times do I need to REINSTALL the damn .NET framework before VS recognizes that I have version 1.1! I really dont understand with all the talent at MS why that cant make this easier to install... The last time I had this problem I had to uninstall VS, reinstall the framework and reinstall VS... Oh and while I am on the subject and in need of getting it off my chest... to the VS team... STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Ok I feel better now... downloaded dotnetnuke yesterday...would be great if it would work but VS does not see that my web server is running 1.1 and it is not worth the time to reinstall.. ok I am done
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OMalleyW wrote: STOP messing with my code... If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Amen brother! I don't have a problem with the code module formatting - actually I think the whole formatting and intellisense business is really pretty well done. I used to work with a guy who insisted on writing all his VC6++ code in friggin' Notepad. What a dumbass. He probably spent half his time searching for basic typos that VS would have fixed for him while he was coding. (Then again, maybe that was a blessing - it was that much less time he had to write shitty code, LOL). But I hate working with ASP script. I try to make it readable then VS frigging turns it into a single line a zillion chars long. :mad:
verniy_muzhschina wrote: writing all his VC6++ code in friggin' Notepad Welcome to the club. We have a pair of developers at our company who are maintaining a product that was ported from running under VxWorks to Windows. They still insist on using Notepad and the gcc compiler (for 'backward compatibility'), even though the company end-of-life'd the VxWorks product and its hardware two years ago. This means that they debug their code by running it until it breaks (no debugger). Clueless twits.
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OMalleyW wrote: If I put elements in a nice neat easy to read line and switch to design view why does VS feel the need to clump everything together into an unreadable mess when I go back to HTML view? Nobody knows. It should be feature that VS format your code html code. This feature is removed in VS 2005 because almost nobody likes it. Brian Goldfarb(MS) said that it tooks 18 months to remove that(!). I call it bug fix, they call it new feature. EDIT: Hm, I'm just thinking, html code formating was feature. Now they remove that feature and they say it's new feature. So by remove one feature we get another.:wtf: Well, maybe this is a new kind of marketing, if by remove feature you get new feature then they can progressively remove all features and at the end there will be new VS.NET 2020 with 100 new features and will do nothing.:doh: I like Microsoft and their products but sometimes I just don't understand some parts of their marketing strategy. It would be nice if they just said "OK, we screwed it up, sorry, now it's fixed". "There are four ways in which you can spend money. You can spend your own money on yourself. When you do that, why then you really watch out what you’re doing, and you try to get the most for your money. Then you can spend your own money on somebody else. For example, I buy a birthday present for someone. Well, then I’m not so careful about the content of the present, but I’m very careful about the cost. Then, I can spend somebody else’s money on myself. And if I spend somebody else’s money on myself, then I’m sure going to have a good lunch! Finally, I can spend somebody else’s money on somebody else. And if I spend somebody else’s money on somebody else, I’m not concerned about how much it is, and I’m not concerned about what I get. And that’s government. And that’s close to 40% of our national income." — Milton Friedman -- modified at 15:42 Saturday 17th September, 2005
:laugh: That's great. :laugh:
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Think of it as the same as with supermarket food. Originally they added pesticides to the growing process and chemicals to keep it fresher longer and ensure that it tastes just right etc, and charged you more for these features now they do nothing like they used to call it organic and charge you more for it. Having said that it would be really nice to have a html editor that didn't rewrite/balls up eveything for you and isn't called notepad. pseudonym67 My Articles[^] "So keep that smile on your face. Have a drink to help you sleep at night. They got what they desired. We're passive in their brave new world." New Model Army
pseudonym67 wrote: Having said that it would be really nice to have a html editor that didn't rewrite/balls up eveything for you and isn't called notepad. HomeSite is the way, the truth, and the light. ;) Jeremy Falcon
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There is some background information on this 'feature' here: http://blogs.msdn.com/mikhailarkhipov/archive/2004/05/16/132886.aspx[^] It at least covers why the re-formatting is done in the first place. Melbourne. Australia.