Atheism
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Sir Isaac Newton There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane history. Albert Einstien When I see the glories of the cosmos I cannot help but believe that there is Divine Hand behind it all. Well I might argue against you, but those are two dead people, who I never argue with. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
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Ashman wrote: The earth was created in 7 days the bible says....my science teacher says the earth was made over billions of years of crap in space morphing together etc etc etc etc Bible also says that God's 1000 days are men's one day and men's one day is God's 1000 days. 1000 is just a figure of speech and does not necessarily mean exactly 1000 days. It could be any number of days or years as God is timeless. As we know, early men were very limited in knowledge of earth and universe beyond and bible is written considering this fact. If bible started with the theory of relativity, those men and women would not have understood it anyway. Bible and theroy of evolution run parallel. My school mathematics says parellel lines meet at infinity. It doesn't say they never meet. I tend to believe there must be a point at which religion and science meet with perfect harmony. Assuming life is a coincidence, lets look at stereoscopic vision. Did billions of years of evolution made it possible for the living things to see in three dimensions? How did the evolution "knew" the physics that you need to have two view ports to see in depth? Trial and error? How did the bats knew about ultrasonics? How did the birds know about aerodynamics? I can't imagine such supposedly unintelligent creatures perfect such feats even if it took billions of years of trial and error. Too many coincidences? Ashman wrote: What created the big bang tho? Yeah. What was there before bing bang? At age 20, we need proof. At age 40 "We know" - An observation.
Lee A. wrote: Bible and theroy of evolution run parallel. My school mathematics says parellel lines meet at infinity. It doesn't say they never meet. I tend to believe there must be a point at which religion and science meet with perfect harmony. Up until a couple of centuries ago Science and Religeous Faith were joined. Catholic priests had to study physics before they studied theology. The reasoning being was that you had to understand the physical world before understanding the spiritual world. These days Science and Religeon appear poles apart in many established worshipping centers and academic institutions. I pray the point where science and religeon meet occurs soon, as it would have great global ramifications and horrors like Sept 11 would become difficult to re-occur. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I live in Bob's HungOut now
Colin is a big fan of William Goldberg and Frank Tipler and of course Billy Connerly
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Now this can somtimes be a touchy subject, so lets remain civil shall we? I respect other people's beliefs but have no doubt that gods do not exist and humanity is the product of a godless evolution. And, I can say with certainity I know what its like to be dead. Just think about where "you" were the last time you were knocked unconscious for a surgery, or where "you" were before your birth. This is no different than death. And I admit, it is sometimes a scary thought believing this to be the truth. But, we cannot -- or should not -- deny the validity of truth merely because that truth makes us uncomfortable. If we do, then we are only degressing back into a more primitive state. Something I think we all can agree might be bad.
Adam Arthur wrote: I respect other people's beliefs but have no doubt that gods do not exist Well, I don't -believe- in gods. But I occasionally have doubts... Not really sure how you have -no- doubts whatsoever... Adam Arthur wrote: dead. Just think about where "you" were the last time you were knocked unconscious for a surgery I agree that before I was born I was dead. But i dunno about this unconscious business. I think that's still very much alive, just not thinking. Not thinking <> death if ya ask me...
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****Christian Graus wrote: deciding that there is no God because you cannot see any evidence of His existance is highly illogical Now replace 'god' with 'unicorn', and read that again. We would be insane -- quite literally -- if we didn't require evidence of the existance of something before believing in it. ****Christian Graus wrote: Luckily, despite the teachings of the religious world at large, God offers rigidly defined and tangible proof to the individual, which means that absence of proof simply means you've been looking in the wrong place. Basically you're saying, "If you search for something hard enough, you will find it." "Am I talking too fast, or are you just playing dumb? If you want I can write it down." -Jarvis Cocker/Pulp
Daniel Ferguson wrote: Now replace 'god' with 'unicorn', and read that again. We would be insane -- quite literally -- if we didn't require evidence of the existance of something before believing in it. Or Great Pumpkin, or anything you like - I agree completely. Daniel Ferguson wrote: Basically you're saying, "If you search for something hard enough, you will find it." No, you're doing what every one-eyed athiest does when I talk to them about God - you're replacing what I am saying with what you want to hear, so you can contradict what you'd like me to say, which is easier than contradiciting what I actually *said*. Christian After all, there's nothing wrong with an elite as long as I'm allowed to be part of it!! - Mike Burston Oct 23, 2001
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