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    peterchen
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    I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


    We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
    boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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      I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


      We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
      boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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      I use Bloglines[^]. It is the best of a bad bunch of web-aggregators. I don't use desktop aggregators as they make synchronisation a hassle at present. ?the road of preserving window position down to the yota? What do you mean by yota? Iota? Where is his post on that please. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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        I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


        We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
        boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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        Stumbling around there following your link I came across an interesting blog entry: Help is for experts[^] Very interesting if you have ever had to supply manuals and help with your product.


        "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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          I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


          We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
          boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          From a fellow RSS tyro: :-O I use Firefox, with which you can add RSS feeds ('live bookmarks' in FF-speak) to your toolbar. :cool: Can others confirm if this is what Peter is looking for? :~

          peterchen wrote:

          there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...

          What is it? :-O I'm always looking to learn new words. Cheers, Vikram.


          "When I read in books about a "base class", I figured this was the class that was at the bottom of the inheritence tree. It's the "base", right? Like the base of a pyramid." - Marc Clifton.

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            I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


            We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
            boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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            Taka Muraoka
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            peterchen wrote:

            Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader

            Me! Me! Over here[^]! And it has the best synchronization features around :-)


            The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison Awasu 2.2 [^]: A free RSS/Atom feed reader with support for Code Project.

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              peterchen wrote:

              Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader

              Me! Me! Over here[^]! And it has the best synchronization features around :-)


              The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison Awasu 2.2 [^]: A free RSS/Atom feed reader with support for Code Project.

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              But there is no web-Awasu sadly. If you partnered with an online aggregator or wrote your own (plus a mobile version) I'd be interested. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                Ryan Roberts
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                Superb blog isn't it, only found it the other day from a reference on the old new thing. Makes me feel way guilty for the crappy bit of interface I am having to churn out at the moment. Oh for half decent layout logic in windows.forms. My prefered RSS reader is newsgator, it integrates with Outlook, if you like that kind of thing. Ryan

                O fools, awake! The rites you sacred hold Are but a cheat contrived by men of old, Who lusted after wealth and gained their lust And died in baseness—and their law is dust. al-Ma'arri (973-1057)

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                  But there is no web-Awasu sadly. If you partnered with an online aggregator or wrote your own (plus a mobile version) I'd be interested. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  If you partnered with an online aggregator or wrote your own (plus a mobile version) I'd be interested.

                  Hey, you and me both :-) We've spoken to a few other companies but nothing came out of it. And as much as we want to do it, we just wouldn't be able to get enough return to warrant building a web interface ourselves, nor do we even have the resources to do it right now. What we'd really like to do right now is to hook up with somebody on the publishing side so that we could offer a complete solution: them for publishing content and Awasu for consuming it. As you've said several times, Awasu is not just another run-of-the-mill blog reader. We're focusing more on the heavy-duty personal knowledge management side of RSS rather than casual reading of news. In this arena, a web interface is less important.


                  The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison Awasu 2.2 [^]: A free RSS/Atom feed reader with support for Code Project.

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                    I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                    We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                    boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                    Ha! Yes! Followed the link from raymondchen's blog yesterday, spent the evening reading back posts. Good stuff... Oh, and i use Sage as an RSS reader. (the site is painfully slow right now... new firefox release and all. )

                    Ave Shog9, CP-addicti te salutant! - K(arl), The Soapbox

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                      I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                      We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                      boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                      I use intraVnews[^] so I can read all the posts on Outlook. It's nice! :-D -- LuisR


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                        I use Bloglines[^]. It is the best of a bad bunch of web-aggregators. I don't use desktop aggregators as they make synchronisation a hassle at present. ?the road of preserving window position down to the yota? What do you mean by yota? Iota? Where is his post on that please. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                        It's not the correctnes of the position, but what you have to do to achieve it: here[^] I'm at step 6, and flanked the further issues by storing a relative position (it's hard to be pixel-exact *and* relative *and* always correct, but it can be done)


                        We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                        boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                          I use Bloglines[^]. It is the best of a bad bunch of web-aggregators. I don't use desktop aggregators as they make synchronisation a hassle at present. ?the road of preserving window position down to the yota? What do you mean by yota? Iota? Where is his post on that please. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                          NewsGator has a great integrations/synchronization story.

                          I personally love using FeedDemon....and it integrates with the NewsGator online reader (which sucks, yes) and a slieu of other clients...including RSS Bandit, now that Dare has NewsGator integration working.


                          Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                            I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                            We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                            boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                            I :love: FeedDemon[^]. :)


                            Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                              I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                              We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                              boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                              i've been using FeedReader. it's ok, but there are a few little rough spots that annoy me so much that i'm going to have to find something else. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                                I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                                We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                                boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                Try BlogBridge if you have Java on your system. The interface is a little different than the normal RSS reader (which I like), and best of all, it has a recommendation mechanism to search feeds for other blogs/articles which interest you. It is also especially good if you have a restrictive IT department. Since it's a Java Web Start app, it doesn't require Admin priviledges to install on your system. Brandon

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                                  NewsGator has a great integrations/synchronization story.

                                  I personally love using FeedDemon....and it integrates with the NewsGator online reader (which sucks, yes) and a slieu of other clients...including RSS Bandit, now that Dare has NewsGator integration working.


                                  Picture a huge catholic cathedral. In it there's many people, including a gregorian monk choir. You know, those who sing beautifully. Then they start singing, in latin, as they always do: "Ad hominem..." -Jörgen Sigvardsson

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                                  Yup, Newsgator are the leaders in this and we are watching them closely. However their web-client offering is poor and really without competition they aren't pushing what can be done with RSS. Wait till we roll out our RSS project, you will like it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                    I wish it was 2007, so I could read more of this blog[^]. UI design observations - not the pretentious Jakob Nielsen way, but "human readable". In only five month he covered a lot of my favorites: the confusing layout of W2K/XP wizards, the road of preserving window position down to the yota (a thing I thought was a personal obsession) Installshields crappy end user experience and a reference to "Brazil" (ok, that's what hooked me). So yes, I finally bite. Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader for a suspicous-of-anything-new* guy like me? *) there's a fancy new word for that, but you know...


                                    We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                                    boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                    I second Shog's sage recommendation. I like the browser integration better then a stand alone or email integrated viewer. The dedicated side bar works better for me then the active bookmarks thing.


                                    I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon

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                                      peterchen wrote:

                                      Someone who can recommend a good RSS reader

                                      Me! Me! Over here[^]! And it has the best synchronization features around :-)


                                      The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison Awasu 2.2 [^]: A free RSS/Atom feed reader with support for Code Project.

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                                      :( It can't open the .rdp thing (http://miksovsky.blogs.com/flowstate/index.rdf[^]) I thought this is an RSS feed (cause it said "Subscribe to this blog's feed" - but I don't know...)


                                      We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                                      boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                        Stumbling around there following your link I came across an interesting blog entry: Help is for experts[^] Very interesting if you have ever had to supply manuals and help with your product.


                                        "Hello, hello, what's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here! This is a Local Shop for Local People, there's nothing for you here!" -Edward Tattsyrup

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                                        "Help is for cowards" Interesting article indeed. We particulary struggle with the sheer amount of the manual - as we have to share a lot of information beyond merely using the software.


                                        We say "get a life" to each other, disappointed or jokingly. What we forget, though, is that this is possibly the most destructive advice you can give to a geek.
                                        boost your code || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                                          Yup, Newsgator are the leaders in this and we are watching them closely. However their web-client offering is poor and really without competition they aren't pushing what can be done with RSS. Wait till we roll out our RSS project, you will like it. regards, Paul Watson Ireland Colib and ilikecameras. K(arl) wrote: oh, and BTW, CHRISTIAN ISN'T A PARADOX, HE IS A TASMANIAN!

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                                          David Stone wrote:

                                          What project is that?  BTW, there's an error on your Colib link...

                                          Test again!

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