What makes a programmer?
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I know it as 3.14259 Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: This means I am not a programmer???? damn! No one tells me these things! Same as me!! ;) -Steven Visit Ltpb.8m.com
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Surf the web faster than ever: http://www.404Browser.comI know it as 3.14259 **** You know you're a programmer when you read a post like this and the first thing you think is "that 2 should be a 1". I'm afraid I don't rate very high on the pi scale, all I can do is: 3.1415926535 without looking it up. To my chagrin, I just did look it up, and realized that the last 5 should be rounded to a 6.
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I've been reading some book by Andre LaMothe, which is of course filled with witty remarks and great sense of humor. And then I started thinking (processing for you hung up dudes), programmers are a weird nation: 1. We have a strange sense of humor only we understand (I showed my brother a flash cartoon yesterday and he thought I was crazy for laughing so much). 2. We spend our days talking or thinking about stuff no sain person should understand. 3. We use Microsoft products out of choice (only we know there are options...). 3. We cry when the HD fails. 4. We sometimes spend days and nights in front of this big flashy box unaware that a world exists out there (kind of like small children). 5. We understand MFC while most people would probably expect to see it only on "Ripley's - believe it or not". 6. We make structures designed to contain the full details of every Startrek character. 7. We know the value of Pi up to 30 characters beyond the floating point. 8. We hardly shave. 9. We have an XT 8086 processor hanging above our dashboard. 10. We buy PlayBot for the articles. Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large.
You know you're a programmer if your holiday lights are operated by microcontroller. What? Your's aren't? (I have 3 68HC11 doing custom animation in my display. Here's an article on one of them http://www.nutsvolts.com/PDF\_Files/light\_effects.pdf) On, and I have one more. You know you're a programmer when you're at the ATM (or the self-checkout place at the supermarket), and you think, "a monkey could design a better UI than this..."
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You know you're a programmer if your holiday lights are operated by microcontroller. What? Your's aren't? (I have 3 68HC11 doing custom animation in my display. Here's an article on one of them http://www.nutsvolts.com/PDF\_Files/light\_effects.pdf) On, and I have one more. You know you're a programmer when you're at the ATM (or the self-checkout place at the supermarket), and you think, "a monkey could design a better UI than this..."
Eric Gunnerson (msft) wrote: You know you're a programmer when you're at the ATM (or the self-checkout place at the supermarket), and you think, "a monkey could design a better UI than this..." Testify!! Those ATMs have some pretty poor UIs... some of them date back to the 70s (you know, those ones with the small monochrome 80-character-line monitors, sometimes the name of the bank is spelled out in the individual-letter-pattern) yuck. Sincerely Yours, Brian Hart "And that's the news from Lake Wobegon, where all the women are strong, the men are good-looking, and the children are above-average." - Garrison Keillor
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I know it as 3.14259 Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: This means I am not a programmer???? damn! No one tells me these things! Same as me!! ;) -Steven Visit Ltpb.8m.com
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Isaac Sasson wrote: 10. We buy PlayBot for the articles. Does or has anyone actually ever honestly and truthfully bought a PlayBoy for the articles? I know people say they do but is that just a cover? I know I would not buy it for the articles. Isaac Sasson wrote: 7. We know the value of Pi up to 30 characters beyond the floating point. Amazing how maths and good memory seem to be requesites for being good with computers. I failed maths and my memory is terrible, yet I am good enough with computers to make a decent living out of them. Isaac Sasson wrote: . We spend our days talking or thinking about stuff no sain person should understand. LOL! I think the Lounge is a prime example of that. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: I know I would not buy it for the articles. Ditto. They're not very stimulating. ;P Jon Sagara What about :bob:?
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All from the top of my head: Pi 3.1415926535979 Root 2 1.414213562 Root 3 1.732050808 Root 4 2 :-D Root 5 2.236 Thats about it. I seem to recal I used to knowm ln10 This lot makes me a particulary sad man.... :(( Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016
Yeah, but where is root 1 ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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I've been reading some book by Andre LaMothe, which is of course filled with witty remarks and great sense of humor. And then I started thinking (processing for you hung up dudes), programmers are a weird nation: 1. We have a strange sense of humor only we understand (I showed my brother a flash cartoon yesterday and he thought I was crazy for laughing so much). 2. We spend our days talking or thinking about stuff no sain person should understand. 3. We use Microsoft products out of choice (only we know there are options...). 3. We cry when the HD fails. 4. We sometimes spend days and nights in front of this big flashy box unaware that a world exists out there (kind of like small children). 5. We understand MFC while most people would probably expect to see it only on "Ripley's - believe it or not". 6. We make structures designed to contain the full details of every Startrek character. 7. We know the value of Pi up to 30 characters beyond the floating point. 8. We hardly shave. 9. We have an XT 8086 processor hanging above our dashboard. 10. We buy PlayBot for the articles. Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large.
Isaac Sasson wrote: 1. We have a strange sense of humor only we understand (I showed my brother a flash cartoon yesterday and he thought I was crazy for laughing so much). SO true. I've spent years quoting things to blank faces at work, when I started in IT, everyone was quoting the same things ( Monty Python, Black Adder, Beavis & Butthead ) Isaac Sasson wrote: 8. We hardly shave. Also true - I *hate* it. I have a couple more. The cover is never on our computers. ( How can you swap drives, etc. with a stupid cover on there ? ) Whenever our spouse says 'what are you thinking', an honest answer will result in sulking ( because we think about code more than we think about them ) When we finish working for the day, we go home and work some more - by choice. We have more music stored on our PC than in our CD cabinet - what's the point of using the stereo, when I'm always at the computer ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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Isaac Sasson wrote: 1. We have a strange sense of humor only we understand (I showed my brother a flash cartoon yesterday and he thought I was crazy for laughing so much). SO true. I've spent years quoting things to blank faces at work, when I started in IT, everyone was quoting the same things ( Monty Python, Black Adder, Beavis & Butthead ) Isaac Sasson wrote: 8. We hardly shave. Also true - I *hate* it. I have a couple more. The cover is never on our computers. ( How can you swap drives, etc. with a stupid cover on there ? ) Whenever our spouse says 'what are you thinking', an honest answer will result in sulking ( because we think about code more than we think about them ) When we finish working for the day, we go home and work some more - by choice. We have more music stored on our PC than in our CD cabinet - what's the point of using the stereo, when I'm always at the computer ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
****Christian Graus wrote: what's the point of using the stereo, when I'm always at the computer ? Hook the computer up to the stereo! :-D Jon Sagara What about :bob:?
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****Christian Graus wrote: what's the point of using the stereo, when I'm always at the computer ? Hook the computer up to the stereo! :-D Jon Sagara What about :bob:?
Jon Sagara wrote: Hook the computer up to the stereo! Yeah, I forgot one: Your computer has better speakers than your stereo. Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
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All from the top of my head: Pi 3.1415926535979 Root 2 1.414213562 Root 3 1.732050808 Root 4 2 :-D Root 5 2.236 Thats about it. I seem to recal I used to knowm ln10 This lot makes me a particulary sad man.... :(( Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016
root 4 = 2 root 9 = 3 root 16 = 4 10^2 = 100 50 - 3 = 47 root 5 is greater than 2 HA I knew more than you!
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Jason Hooper wrote: From the top of my head: Pi = 3.141592653589793238462643383279488419706939937510 Please tell me you didn't get that from the top of your head.... :eek: Simon Hey, it looks like you're writing a letter! Sonork ID 100.10024
Simon Walton wrote: Jason Hooper wrote: From the top of my head: Pi = 3.141592653589793238462643383279488419706939937510 Please tell me you didn't get that from the top of your head.... Well he didn't get it from Windows calc, it only reports a lousy: Pi = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795 I understand that pi has now been rationalised at some ridiculously large number of figures, but the proof is somewhat beyond me! Chris is a mathematician, how about an explanation by our host. :confused: sonork ID: 100.9940
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Jason Hooper wrote: From the top of my head: Pi = 3.141592653589793238462643383279488419706939937510 Please tell me you didn't get that from the top of your head.... :eek: Simon Hey, it looks like you're writing a letter! Sonork ID 100.10024
Sorry, yes I did. :) Like I said, I once knew it to 80.... I was a geek when I was younger. Wait.. still am. D'oh. :suss: -Jason nirgle.bitdevil.com SonorkID: 100.12194
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I've been reading some book by Andre LaMothe, which is of course filled with witty remarks and great sense of humor. And then I started thinking (processing for you hung up dudes), programmers are a weird nation: 1. We have a strange sense of humor only we understand (I showed my brother a flash cartoon yesterday and he thought I was crazy for laughing so much). 2. We spend our days talking or thinking about stuff no sain person should understand. 3. We use Microsoft products out of choice (only we know there are options...). 3. We cry when the HD fails. 4. We sometimes spend days and nights in front of this big flashy box unaware that a world exists out there (kind of like small children). 5. We understand MFC while most people would probably expect to see it only on "Ripley's - believe it or not". 6. We make structures designed to contain the full details of every Startrek character. 7. We know the value of Pi up to 30 characters beyond the floating point. 8. We hardly shave. 9. We have an XT 8086 processor hanging above our dashboard. 10. We buy PlayBot for the articles. Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large.
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Yeah, but where is root 1 ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001
Sonork ID 100.10002:MeanManOz
I live in Bob's HungOut now
It's on the coast of the Peoples' Republic of California. Oh, wait a minute; I was thinking of Route 1. Sorry. I'd better get away from this computer for a while, before I start programming something... Maybe I can find some of that male date rape drug and become a victim. Then I could join one of those nifty 12-step programs and have lots of, er, friends! Ah, Friday nite, and time again to stalk the wily Poontang... Just let me fetch my rope.
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Isaac Sasson wrote: 10. We buy PlayBot for the articles. Does or has anyone actually ever honestly and truthfully bought a PlayBoy for the articles? I know people say they do but is that just a cover? I know I would not buy it for the articles. Isaac Sasson wrote: 7. We know the value of Pi up to 30 characters beyond the floating point. Amazing how maths and good memory seem to be requesites for being good with computers. I failed maths and my memory is terrible, yet I am good enough with computers to make a decent living out of them. Isaac Sasson wrote: . We spend our days talking or thinking about stuff no sain person should understand. LOL! I think the Lounge is a prime example of that. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge
Paul Watson wrote: I failed maths and my memory is terrible One of my favorite people failed algebra the first time he was faced with it. He also later is reputed to have said "never memorize anything you can look up." His name was Albert Einstein. I, too, failed algebra, then again hit a roadblock when I started fumbling around with calculus, and yet again when I hit n-dimensional analytical geometry. With each, a day eventually came where there was this bright flash and the sound of my own astonished self exclaiming "Aha!" And then it was on to the next interesting challenge. For all that struggle, I've actually needed very little of it, even when I was employed in my true vocation. But it wasn't wasted effort, as it also exposed me to truly useful stuff like Laplace transforms, and discrete time (z-plane) transformations. Just as programming has exposed you to all the neat and useful things you know how to do because of it! Enjoy! People think I make up all the jokes I tell. I don't really. They're printed under the caps on beer bottles. Of course, there's not much room, so each one has only a few letters. You've got to work at it just to finish a one-liner.
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Paul Watson wrote: I failed maths and my memory is terrible One of my favorite people failed algebra the first time he was faced with it. He also later is reputed to have said "never memorize anything you can look up." His name was Albert Einstein. I, too, failed algebra, then again hit a roadblock when I started fumbling around with calculus, and yet again when I hit n-dimensional analytical geometry. With each, a day eventually came where there was this bright flash and the sound of my own astonished self exclaiming "Aha!" And then it was on to the next interesting challenge. For all that struggle, I've actually needed very little of it, even when I was employed in my true vocation. But it wasn't wasted effort, as it also exposed me to truly useful stuff like Laplace transforms, and discrete time (z-plane) transformations. Just as programming has exposed you to all the neat and useful things you know how to do because of it! Enjoy! People think I make up all the jokes I tell. I don't really. They're printed under the caps on beer bottles. Of course, there's not much room, so each one has only a few letters. You've got to work at it just to finish a one-liner.
Roger Wright wrote: But it wasn't wasted effort I totally agree with you. I don't mean that math is a wasted effort for those people who want the challenge. But I don't want math as one of my challenges. I have other things to challenge me, like literature, programming and business. I don't get a kick out of maths like you did. I get a kick out of literature and other challenges. Hence why I feel it is fine for me to put math aside and not have to think I am a sub-human for not understanding, or wanting to understand, it. Bottom line: Understanding math is not some magical badge which makes you human or not. To me whatever challenge someone takes up and perserveres at makes them human. Whether it be math, english, programming, love, business, art etc. etc. None of those should be held above another or under another. They are all equal and worthy. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
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Roger Wright wrote: But it wasn't wasted effort I totally agree with you. I don't mean that math is a wasted effort for those people who want the challenge. But I don't want math as one of my challenges. I have other things to challenge me, like literature, programming and business. I don't get a kick out of maths like you did. I get a kick out of literature and other challenges. Hence why I feel it is fine for me to put math aside and not have to think I am a sub-human for not understanding, or wanting to understand, it. Bottom line: Understanding math is not some magical badge which makes you human or not. To me whatever challenge someone takes up and perserveres at makes them human. Whether it be math, english, programming, love, business, art etc. etc. None of those should be held above another or under another. They are all equal and worthy. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront
Paul Watson wrote: To me whatever challenge someone takes up and perserveres at makes them human. Whether it be math, english, programming, love, business, art etc. etc. None of those should be held above another or under another. They are all equal and worthy. I totally agree :-D My biggest regret is that life is too short to learn them all! But I'm trying...
