Photo organization, archiving, editing
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Hi All, some thoughts please. I'm looking for the prefect solution to a number of organizational issues. Here are my requirements, suggestions for software appreciated. 1. Import of RAW (NEF) images from a CF card to a RAW directory structure (e.g. \raw\2005\2005-MM-DD, I'd prefer if it could split by date taken rather than date imported). 2. Any editing should be non destructive. I want to go back to the original and start again. I've already bought Microsoft Digital Image 2006, nice UI, nice tagging etc. but it does not do the versioning (and it does not support RAW). I also bought Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0, UI is not as nice (in my view) as the MS one, it does do versioning and theoretically supports NEF raw images, it crashed with a couple of mine :(, I'm currently using this but as I say, not exactly what I want. My new Nikon came with Nikon Picture Project and a trial of Nikon Capture, these of course handle NEF files, but the UI is not intuitive, actually I'd say the Picture Project UI is downright ugly, but that's me .. :) Oh, I use Paintshop Pro 9 for editing, having just bought the camera I think my wife might have a problem with me spending $500 for Photoshop CS, so anything that will integrate with PSP would be good. OK, suggestions please. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
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Hi All, some thoughts please. I'm looking for the prefect solution to a number of organizational issues. Here are my requirements, suggestions for software appreciated. 1. Import of RAW (NEF) images from a CF card to a RAW directory structure (e.g. \raw\2005\2005-MM-DD, I'd prefer if it could split by date taken rather than date imported). 2. Any editing should be non destructive. I want to go back to the original and start again. I've already bought Microsoft Digital Image 2006, nice UI, nice tagging etc. but it does not do the versioning (and it does not support RAW). I also bought Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0, UI is not as nice (in my view) as the MS one, it does do versioning and theoretically supports NEF raw images, it crashed with a couple of mine :(, I'm currently using this but as I say, not exactly what I want. My new Nikon came with Nikon Picture Project and a trial of Nikon Capture, these of course handle NEF files, but the UI is not intuitive, actually I'd say the Picture Project UI is downright ugly, but that's me .. :) Oh, I use Paintshop Pro 9 for editing, having just bought the camera I think my wife might have a problem with me spending $500 for Photoshop CS, so anything that will integrate with PSP would be good. OK, suggestions please. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
Gary, IF you use Paint SHop Pro 9 already, you should upgrade to Corel Paint Shop Pro X. It comes with Corel Photo Album 6 standard edition. They really did a great job making the interface easy to use. You can check out the info on PSP X here[^]. I use PSP for importing RAW images from a Canon Powershot S50 and it works well. Once I have my RAW file and make changes, I save it as a JPEG and then organize it with the Photo Album software. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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Gary, IF you use Paint SHop Pro 9 already, you should upgrade to Corel Paint Shop Pro X. It comes with Corel Photo Album 6 standard edition. They really did a great job making the interface easy to use. You can check out the info on PSP X here[^]. I use PSP for importing RAW images from a Canon Powershot S50 and it works well. Once I have my RAW file and make changes, I save it as a JPEG and then organize it with the Photo Album software. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
I've been getting the upgrade offers for PSP X, and downloaded the trail. However, does the Photo album software do versioning? i.e. If I import the RAW (PSP does not support NEF, or it didn't work with my coolpic 5700, not tried the D70s yet) and convert to JPG, does the album software allow me to stack / group / combine in some way, the original and all versions I have produced from it? Gary Flickr Photos[^]
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Gary, IF you use Paint SHop Pro 9 already, you should upgrade to Corel Paint Shop Pro X. It comes with Corel Photo Album 6 standard edition. They really did a great job making the interface easy to use. You can check out the info on PSP X here[^]. I use PSP for importing RAW images from a Canon Powershot S50 and it works well. Once I have my RAW file and make changes, I save it as a JPEG and then organize it with the Photo Album software. Regards, Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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I've been getting the upgrade offers for PSP X, and downloaded the trail. However, does the Photo album software do versioning? i.e. If I import the RAW (PSP does not support NEF, or it didn't work with my coolpic 5700, not tried the D70s yet) and convert to JPG, does the album software allow me to stack / group / combine in some way, the original and all versions I have produced from it? Gary Flickr Photos[^]
The standard version of Photo Album don't do versioning. Not sure about the deluxe version. The album software lets you group images by folders. I'm not sure if that's what you meant. Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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PSP and Photo Album do not seem to recognize NEF (Nikon Raw) images :( Gary Flickr Photos[^]
Gary Thom wrote:
PSP and Photo Album do not seem to recognize NEF (Nikon Raw) images
really?? hmmmm that is odd... since I use it regularly. I shoot nothing but RAW and then convert to jpeg at the computer. There is something odd with my PSPX install that I am still hashing out, but I use one of the RAW browsers/editors that comes with it every time I take a photo. Now PSP9 required a patch to do a preload exposure choice before loading the image in. It did not do 16bit color. However the new one has more options. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Gary Thom wrote:
PSP and Photo Album do not seem to recognize NEF (Nikon Raw) images
really?? hmmmm that is odd... since I use it regularly. I shoot nothing but RAW and then convert to jpeg at the computer. There is something odd with my PSPX install that I am still hashing out, but I use one of the RAW browsers/editors that comes with it every time I take a photo. Now PSP9 required a patch to do a preload exposure choice before loading the image in. It did not do 16bit color. However the new one has more options. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
PSP X now does D70s, after 2 patches to 10.02. As much as I like PSP (I've upgraded and paid for the last 3 or 4 versions at least), I just played with RawShooter (comes with PSP X, or maybe with Photo Album) and it produces nicer images. One of my friends likes DIM[^], and as anti-java as I am, it does pretty much what I want as far as copying files is concerned (directory creation based on EXIF photo taken date). It even does a backup folder too. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
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The standard version of Photo Album don't do versioning. Not sure about the deluxe version. The album software lets you group images by folders. I'm not sure if that's what you meant. Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
No, what I mean is: I have an original (say xxxx.jpg), and make an edit, it should automatically create xxxx-1.jpg and only show me this on the browser (unless I ask to see a different version). Apple Apeture does what I want, but I program PCs for a living .. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
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No, what I mean is: I have an original (say xxxx.jpg), and make an edit, it should automatically create xxxx-1.jpg and only show me this on the browser (unless I ask to see a different version). Apple Apeture does what I want, but I program PCs for a living .. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
No...I don't think it does that...sorry :( Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation
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PSP X now does D70s, after 2 patches to 10.02. As much as I like PSP (I've upgraded and paid for the last 3 or 4 versions at least), I just played with RawShooter (comes with PSP X, or maybe with Photo Album) and it produces nicer images. One of my friends likes DIM[^], and as anti-java as I am, it does pretty much what I want as far as copying files is concerned (directory creation based on EXIF photo taken date). It even does a backup folder too. Gary Flickr Photos[^]
Gary Thom wrote:
PSP X now does D70s, after 2 patches to 10.02. As much as I like PSP (I've upgraded and paid for the last 3 or 4 versions at least), I just played with RawShooter (comes with PSP X, or maybe with Photo Album) and it produces nicer images.
ahh, that is the one (without having to go home to see, which is the only way my memory works). That is what I am using right now. I could get better images out of PSP X, but it took longer, RAW shooter could do as good, easier and faster. All my pictures for the last couple months are converted to jpeg from rawshooter. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Gary Thom wrote:
PSP X now does D70s, after 2 patches to 10.02. As much as I like PSP (I've upgraded and paid for the last 3 or 4 versions at least), I just played with RawShooter (comes with PSP X, or maybe with Photo Album) and it produces nicer images.
ahh, that is the one (without having to go home to see, which is the only way my memory works). That is what I am using right now. I could get better images out of PSP X, but it took longer, RAW shooter could do as good, easier and faster. All my pictures for the last couple months are converted to jpeg from rawshooter. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
I think that will be the way I go.. 1. Use DIM (or roll my own) to copy the NEF files (to my RAW tree) 2. Use Rawshooter to process the NEFs and Create the JPGs 3. Do my organization of JPGs in Photoshop Elements (have it use PSP as it's editor). 4. Use the flickr uploader for sending to flickr 5. Some other manual process for my other stuff ... Phew, I need :beer: Gary Flickr Photos[^]
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No...I don't think it does that...sorry :( Brigg Thorp Senior Software Engineer Timex Corporation