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  • G Giles

    Its kind of stupid, as for many places that get renamed, they will suffer as tourists will not know the new names.


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    Colin Angus Mackay
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    Giles wrote:

    for many places that get renamed, they will suffer as tourists will not know the new names.

    Well, that's already a problem for places with a different name in English to the local language. * Sevilla, pronounced Sebíya, is called Seville in English. * Den Haag, is The Hague in English - so you'll need to know the Dutch name in order to drive to it. Or the other way around. In Spanish the river Thames in London is called Tameses - if you ever meet a Spanish tourist asking for guidance they'll get confused if they don't know the translation and you correctly refer to it as the Thames. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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    • C Chris Losinger

      we rename stuff all the time, in the US. dead presidents are a prime source of this. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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      Kant
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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      in the US. dead presidents are a prime source of this.

      Not necessarily. The Houston airport is called 'George Bush International Airport'.

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        Chris Losinger wrote:

        we rename stuff all the time, in the US. dead presidents are a prime source of this.

        Holy cow. You mean, 30-40 years in the future, one of your major airports will be called the George Bush II International Airport??? Regards, Nish

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        Kant
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        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

        one of your major airports will be called the George Bush II International Airport??

        Houston airport already holds his dad's name. So he will settle for either Austin (Bergstrom) or Dallas (DFW).

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          Chris Losinger wrote:

          in the US. dead presidents are a prime source of this.

          Not necessarily. The Houston airport is called 'George Bush International Airport'.

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          Chris Losinger
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          sure, and Reagan International in DC was so-named before Reagan died. but i think it helps if they're dead. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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          • J John Fisher

            Are you going to create the vocal equivalent of email's 64-bit encoding, then? Otherwise, conversations could take quite a bit longer than normal! John
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            John Fisher wrote:

            Otherwise, conversations could take quite a bit longer than normal!

            Not if we use compression - for example I could replace e7e7f686-c510-405b-955a-a8653130d61b with a smaller symbol like xyzzy. To make the transformations easier to remember, I'd use words that have a physical association to the GUID. So, 4a320b25-c869-4442-b6c3-eec1bd443a5a would be "Paris", a6d09623-6d36-4302-9282-bb05fb6d415b would be "The Louvre", etc., turning the GUID conversation to:

            "Sally and I had a WONDERFUL time in France. We visited the Louvre in Paris, sailed down the Seine, and went skiing in the French Alps."

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            • K Kant

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              one of your major airports will be called the George Bush II International Airport??

              Houston airport already holds his dad's name. So he will settle for either Austin (Bergstrom) or Dallas (DFW).

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              Chris Losinger
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              Kant wrote:

              So he will settle for either Austin (Bergstrom) or Dallas (DFW).

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              • K Kant

                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                one of your major airports will be called the George Bush II International Airport??

                Houston airport already holds his dad's name. So he will settle for either Austin (Bergstrom) or Dallas (DFW).

                This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter".

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                Nish Nishant
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                Kant wrote:

                Houston airport already holds his dad's name.

                But Bush I is still alive, right? Regards, Nish

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                  sure, and Reagan International in DC was so-named before Reagan died. but i think it helps if they're dead. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  Chris Losinger wrote:

                  but i think it helps if they're dead.

                  :~ Regards, Nish

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                  • K Kant

                    Chris Losinger wrote:

                    in the US. dead presidents are a prime source of this.

                    Not necessarily. The Houston airport is called 'George Bush International Airport'.

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Kant wrote:

                    Not necessarily.

                    Ah okay, so they needn't be dead then. Regards, Nish

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                    • S SimonS

                      In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart

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                      Kant
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                      SimonS wrote:

                      Does renaming happen in other parts of the world?

                      In India it happens all the time. :mad: In the last decade or so when BJP (Hindu) party came into power, it forced all the major cities to change the names. Madras -> Chennai, Bombay -> Mumbai, Calcutta -> Kolkata....etc... They renamed some of the airports in big cities. (ex: Chhatrapati Shivaji International Airport in Mumbai) When Congress party comes to power, they rename every damn thing to 'Indira/Rajiv Gandhi....Airport/Road/Building/Ship/Unversity/Any crap'. In some states where the backward caste party is in power, they rename it to their leader 'B. R. Ambedkar* ...blah...blah' * - wrote the Indian constitution and from backward caste.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        Kant wrote:

                        Houston airport already holds his dad's name.

                        But Bush I is still alive, right? Regards, Nish

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                        Kant
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        But Bush I is still alive, right?

                        Yep and minting money in the oil business.

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                        • S SimonS

                          In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart

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                          Jon Sagara
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                          SimonS wrote:

                          Does renaming happen in other parts of the world?

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                          • C Chris Losinger

                            Kant wrote:

                            So he will settle for either Austin (Bergstrom) or Dallas (DFW).

                            Logan is a mere ten miles from his birthplace. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                            Kant
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                            Chris Losinger wrote:

                            Logan is a mere ten miles from his birthplace.

                            I don't think Bostonians like to have their airport named after Bush II. They rather have one more Kennedy airport. ;P

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                            • G Gary R Wheeler

                              We don't get too much of that where I live in the United States. What we do is tack on additional, equivalent names. For example, the primary east/west route through my town (Xenia, Ohio) and the next major city (Dayton) is U.S. route 35. In various places, it is also known as East Main Street (in my town), the Korean Veterans Memorial Parkway (a stretch between here and Dayton), and so on. There is one major street in Dayton that has five names over the course of its length. Every little two-bit municipality along the way changes the name of their stretch.


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                              Blake Miller
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                              We have one of those here in Orange County. The road is quite long, and it changes names as you pass through various cities... City -> Road Name Irvine -> Barranca Costa Mesa -> Dyer Garden Grove -> Segerstrom Fountain Valley -> Slater Huntington Beach -> ? Marriage slows down your coding, a baby slows it down even more!

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                              • C Colin Angus Mackay

                                Liverpool Airport was renamed John Lennon Airport - Dead pop stars get the same treatment. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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                                Blake Miller
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                                The Orange County Airport was renamed the John Wayne Airport, for some GD reason... Hell, that AHole did not pay for it :mad: Marriage slows down your coding, a baby slows it down even more!

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  But Bush I is still alive, right?

                                  Yep and minting money in the oil business.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  Kant wrote:

                                  Yep and minting money in the oil business.

                                  Oh - interesting! Regards, Nish

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                                    The Orange County Airport was renamed the John Wayne Airport, for some GD reason... Hell, that AHole did not pay for it :mad: Marriage slows down your coding, a baby slows it down even more!

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                                    Colin Angus Mackay
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                                    Blake Miller wrote:

                                    The Orange County Airport was renamed the John Wayne Airport

                                    Given that there are quite a lot of Orange Counties in the United States (and most likely many have airports) is this not an improvement, at least on the disambiguation front. ColinMackay.net "Man who stand on hill with mouth open will wait long time for roast duck to drop in." -- Confucius "If a man empties his purse into his head, no man can take it away from him, for an investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -- Joseph E. O'Donnell

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                                    • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                                      John Fisher wrote:

                                      Otherwise, conversations could take quite a bit longer than normal!

                                      Not if we use compression - for example I could replace e7e7f686-c510-405b-955a-a8653130d61b with a smaller symbol like xyzzy. To make the transformations easier to remember, I'd use words that have a physical association to the GUID. So, 4a320b25-c869-4442-b6c3-eec1bd443a5a would be "Paris", a6d09623-6d36-4302-9282-bb05fb6d415b would be "The Louvre", etc., turning the GUID conversation to:

                                      "Sally and I had a WONDERFUL time in France. We visited the Louvre in Paris, sailed down the Seine, and went skiing in the French Alps."

                                      Omigosh, I think I've hit upon something! :omg: /ravi My new year's resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Music | Articles | Freeware | Trips ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                                      I think I've hit upon something!

                                      :-D John
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                                      • S SimonS

                                        In South Africa, there was a wave of renaming in the mid-1990s, but it's starting to happen again and I'm interested to find out what the international view is. The 2 latest renaming proposals are to change the capital's name from Pretoria to Tswane. The other is to change "Johannesburg International Airport" (was Jan Smuts in 1990's) to "Oliver Thambo International Airport". My issue is not the actual renaming, but rather the following: - it makes SA look unstable in political terms, I think - the several billion Rand that will be used to change these names should rather be used to curb the crime and corruption in our country. Does renaming happen in other parts of the world? What about renaming twice in 10 years? Cheers, Simon > blog:: brokenkeyboards > my opinion of VS05 :: here > CV :: PDF > skype me! :: SimonMStewart

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        Not that often, but to be fair, compared to here, SA *is* politically unstable, or at least has been. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                        • F Farhan Noor Qureshi

                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          Trivandrum's official name is now Thiruvananthapuram

                                          I am glad they did. Trivandrum is way easier than Thiruvananthapuram :-D Farhan Noor Qureshi if (this == this) thow this;

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          Farhan Noor Qureshi wrote:

                                          I am glad they did. Trivandrum is way easier than Thiruvananthapuram

                                          :confused: The name used to be "Trivandrum" which has been changed to "Thiruvananthapuram" now. So, the current name is actually a more complicated one. Why are you glad they did that? Regards, Nish

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