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  • I Imran Farooqui

    The news circulating in South Asia these days is that Pakistan is planning to test-fire a new kind of intercontinental ballistic missile - "Tipu" in response to the current missile test by India. The name of this missile was first heard in the year 1999 when it was reported in a local news paper. It was said that the missiles of this series are targeted for the country's space program, however the missile was not been constructed by Pakistan space agency SUPARCO, but by defence company called Pakistan Atomic energy commission. US CIA has neither confirmed nor deny the presence of such missile The missile is described as being 12 meters long and having the range of 5000 km. The utility of a missile in this range class is obscure, since the 1500 km range Ghauri/Hatf-5 provides almost complete coverage of India, and politically interesting targets at more than twice this range are rather difficult to identify. The missile can carry nuclear or conventional warhead however the major aspect of this missile is the electromagnetic destruction of powerstations Imran Farooqui

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    If that's true then IMHO both India and Pakistan are totally insane - the missile with nuclear warhead would take only about 4 minutes trip in one direction. In such circumstances any missunderstanding or missinterpretation of the missile launch will cause immediate response of the other side and so both states will get severely damaged in less than 10 minutes simply because there is not enought time to think or verify anything.

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      If that's true then IMHO both India and Pakistan are totally insane - the missile with nuclear warhead would take only about 4 minutes trip in one direction. In such circumstances any missunderstanding or missinterpretation of the missile launch will cause immediate response of the other side and so both states will get severely damaged in less than 10 minutes simply because there is not enought time to think or verify anything.

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      American s/w engineers might want just that. I mean indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        American s/w engineers might want just that. I mean indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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        Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: American s/w engineers might want just that. I mean indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans That could explain the drop in the software quality...

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          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: American s/w engineers might want just that. I mean indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans That could explain the drop in the software quality...

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          Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. :confused: Just think about it. Imran Farooqui

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            Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: American s/w engineers might want just that. I mean indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans That could explain the drop in the software quality...

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            :-) Yeah, I was puzzled to find a number of Indians in the Windows kernel team. The general feeling is that americans cannot code well :-) When the russians and the chinese learn english, americans, indians and pakis are doomed :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            • I Imran Farooqui

              Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. :confused: Just think about it. Imran Farooqui

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              It's a bit funny when you think of it. But Indian and Paki programmers are among the best in the world currently [if you ignore the chinese] I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. So they find it hard to use their programming brains properly. But there are exceptions too I guess Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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              • I Imran Farooqui

                Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. :confused: Just think about it. Imran Farooqui

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                could be one reason why my opinion toward sun is so low (okay.. lame joke.. i think this is really great.. was just for the joke, really) bernhard


                Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.

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                  could be one reason why my opinion toward sun is so low (okay.. lame joke.. i think this is really great.. was just for the joke, really) bernhard


                  Sometimes I think the surest sign for intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is that none of them ever tried to contact us.

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                  LOL Good one. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                  • I Imran Farooqui

                    The news circulating in South Asia these days is that Pakistan is planning to test-fire a new kind of intercontinental ballistic missile - "Tipu" in response to the current missile test by India. The name of this missile was first heard in the year 1999 when it was reported in a local news paper. It was said that the missiles of this series are targeted for the country's space program, however the missile was not been constructed by Pakistan space agency SUPARCO, but by defence company called Pakistan Atomic energy commission. US CIA has neither confirmed nor deny the presence of such missile The missile is described as being 12 meters long and having the range of 5000 km. The utility of a missile in this range class is obscure, since the 1500 km range Ghauri/Hatf-5 provides almost complete coverage of India, and politically interesting targets at more than twice this range are rather difficult to identify. The missile can carry nuclear or conventional warhead however the major aspect of this missile is the electromagnetic destruction of powerstations Imran Farooqui

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                    Imran, wouldn't it be just great if India and Pakistan could be friends and use their combined intelligence to better the lifestyles of their general population and maybe make joint space programme ventures and you know bring about total peace in the region. I really wish we could have had a single cricket team. Imagine Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Gavaskar and Miandad in one team. We'd have killed everyone else :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                    • I Imran Farooqui

                      Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. :confused: Just think about it. Imran Farooqui

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                      Imran Farooqui wrote: Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. Just think about it. Maybe, but that is not the reason why "indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans". The reason is the money, however you usually get what you paid for. Just think about it.

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                        Imran, wouldn't it be just great if India and Pakistan could be friends and use their combined intelligence to better the lifestyles of their general population and maybe make joint space programme ventures and you know bring about total peace in the region. I really wish we could have had a single cricket team. Imagine Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Gavaskar and Miandad in one team. We'd have killed everyone else :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                        Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: We'd have killed everyone else sounds pretty paki-indish.. bernhard


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                          It's a bit funny when you think of it. But Indian and Paki programmers are among the best in the world currently [if you ignore the chinese] I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. So they find it hard to use their programming brains properly. But there are exceptions too I guess Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. So they find it hard to use their programming brains properly. This from the man who said he wanted to learn COM but keeps getting distracted by Unreal !!! FWIW, I stopped watching TV about two years ago. I'll watch the odd show that I like ( like the Blue Planet ), and put on a video from time to time because my wife likes to watch them and it gives us time together, but that is it, nor do I play games apart from an hour of Worms World Party at lunch time every day. On the other hand, I eat WAY too much junk food.... Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.

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                          • I Imran Farooqui

                            Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. :confused: Just think about it. Imran Farooqui

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                            Imran Farooqui wrote: 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). You're saying Indians are not as smart as Pakistanis ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.

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                              It's a bit funny when you think of it. But Indian and Paki programmers are among the best in the world currently [if you ignore the chinese] I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. So they find it hard to use their programming brains properly. But there are exceptions too I guess Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                              Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Indian and Paki programmers are among the best in the world currently [if you ignore the chinese] Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. Nish, stop spreading a stereotypes. You're watching too much of the popular media news or something. How do you measure the programming skills to get to the conclusion that any nation's programmers are better than others? I can garantie you that if you make a proper research you will find it totally random, with slight shift towards more advanced countries (easier access to technology, it helps). But to say that some country's programmers are better than others just doesn't hold, you have to go on a case-by-case basis, each person is different individual and it's impossible to generalize.

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                                Imran, wouldn't it be just great if India and Pakistan could be friends and use their combined intelligence to better the lifestyles of their general population and maybe make joint space programme ventures and you know bring about total peace in the region. I really wish we could have had a single cricket team. Imagine Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Gavaskar and Miandad in one team. We'd have killed everyone else :-) Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                Well, western powers may not like these countries to become friends. Thats why they had never taken serious steps in resolving Kashmir issue. Reason is simple as you mentioned that if these countries resolve their issues, they can become economic giants. USA wants nuclear india in order to deal with China. But they fears that technological advances in India can one day make it a super power. So, they keep the kashmir issue and Pakistan nuclear threats alive. Imran Farooqui

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                                  Imran Farooqui wrote: Hey George!!! 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). Any "quality" professional form US has achieved any such certifications in fore mentioned age. Just think about it. Maybe, but that is not the reason why "indian and pak software engineers take all the jobs away from the americans". The reason is the money, however you usually get what you paid for. Just think about it.

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                                  Nish Nishant
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                                  George wrote: The reason is the money, however you usually get what you paid for. Just think about it. It's not that George. I seriously dont think a programmer is a bad programmer just because he is a Brown-Race-person. The fact is when you convert the US $ to Indian or Pakistani currency it is a lot of money. I really dont think indian or paki programmers are bad. In fact impersonally speaking I believe that new generation americans are not good as programmers due to their luxury-filled childhood life styles. But just wait till those chinese guys take over. They will blast everyone off :-) :-) Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                    Imran Farooqui wrote: 12 yrs old girl from pakistan and 14 yrs old guy from india are SCJPs (SUN certified JAVA professionals). You're saying Indians are not as smart as Pakistanis ? Christian I have come to clean zee pooollll. - Michael Martin Dec 30, 2001 Picture the daffodil. And while you do that, I'll be over here going through your stuff. Picture a world without war, without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they would never expect it.

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                                    ****Christian Graus wrote: You're saying Indians are not as smart as Pakistanis ? LOLOL Nish p.s. Geez CG, you wanna start a war eh? Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                                    • I Imran Farooqui

                                      Well, western powers may not like these countries to become friends. Thats why they had never taken serious steps in resolving Kashmir issue. Reason is simple as you mentioned that if these countries resolve their issues, they can become economic giants. USA wants nuclear india in order to deal with China. But they fears that technological advances in India can one day make it a super power. So, they keep the kashmir issue and Pakistan nuclear threats alive. Imran Farooqui

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                                      What a nonsense conspiracy theory... Imran Farooqui wrote: Well, western powers may not like these countries to become friends. Well, to tell you the truth, western powers don't give a rat's sh*t about "these countries". They are usually too busy with themselfes. Imran Farooqui wrote: why they had never taken serious steps in resolving Kashmir issue. Exactly, western powers don't give a damm about Kashmir or anthything around it. Imran Farooqui wrote: Reason is simple as you mentioned that if these countries resolve their issues, they can become economic giants. Yeah, right. Who cares? Imran Farooqui wrote: USA wants nuclear india in order to deal with China. I can assure you that US is totally capable to deal with China. It seems that India has tricked US help in nuclear technology (to build the power stations) and run it's own military research to build the bomb instead. Imran Farooqui wrote: But they fears that technological advances in India can one day make it a super power. Once more, who cares? Imran Farooqui wrote: So, they keep the kashmir issue and Pakistan nuclear threats alive. Pakistan and India don't need any help in doing that.

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                                        Well, western powers may not like these countries to become friends. Thats why they had never taken serious steps in resolving Kashmir issue. Reason is simple as you mentioned that if these countries resolve their issues, they can become economic giants. USA wants nuclear india in order to deal with China. But they fears that technological advances in India can one day make it a super power. So, they keep the kashmir issue and Pakistan nuclear threats alive. Imran Farooqui

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                                        Imran Farooqui wrote: Well, western powers may not like these countries to become friends Why is it always the western powers fault? Why does Africa and all the other 3rd world nations around the world blame the west? For once, just once, I want to see a 3rd world country stand up and say "We are to blame, we cocked our country up and now we are going to make it better. We don't demand help from the west, but we would appreciate it." regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa "The greatest thing you will ever learn is to love, and be loved in return" - Moulin Rouge Martin Marvinski wrote: Unfortunatly Deep Throat isn't my cup of tea Do you Sonork? I do! 100.9903 Stormfront

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                                          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Indian and Paki programmers are among the best in the world currently [if you ignore the chinese] Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: I guess one reason new generaytion americans suck at programming is that they play too much video games and are lazy and watch TV and eat trash food. Nish, stop spreading a stereotypes. You're watching too much of the popular media news or something. How do you measure the programming skills to get to the conclusion that any nation's programmers are better than others? I can garantie you that if you make a proper research you will find it totally random, with slight shift towards more advanced countries (easier access to technology, it helps). But to say that some country's programmers are better than others just doesn't hold, you have to go on a case-by-case basis, each person is different individual and it's impossible to generalize.

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                                          Nish Nishant
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                                          George wrote: How do you measure the programming skills to get to the conclusion that any nation's programmers are better than others? George, it was you who said you felt that the quality in software has dropped because of too many indian and pak programmers. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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