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    Michael P Butler
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    Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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      Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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      Josh Koppang
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      The Taliban. I don't know what software they might need, but I'm sure that it wouldn't be to organize muffin recipies. I guess that this is a given, though. Josh Koppang

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        Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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        Jon Sagara
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        Tobacco: If this was the only job I could land to support myself/family, then I'd have to take it. Slaughterhouse: I see no problem with this. Nuclear plant: I like three-eyed animals. :-D Microsoft: Sure! Landmine makers: Same as tobacco. Jon Sagara What about :bob:? Sonork ID: 100.9999 jonsagara

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          Michael P Butler wrote: landmine makers Out of the list only that one, But I also won't work in the pr0n industry. Regardz Colin J Davies

          Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

          If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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          Nish Nishant
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          Huh? Why woudldn't you work for land-mine workers? That's what he asked? Or were you answering him in reverse? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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            Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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            ColinDavies
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            Michael P Butler wrote: landmine makers Out of the list only that one, But I also won't work in the pr0n industry. Regardz Colin J Davies

            Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

            If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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            • M Michael P Butler

              Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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              Matt Gullett
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              I would work for most industries except: the porn industry and many religious organizations. (That's all I can think of right now.) Tobacco company: no problem Slaughterhouse: no problem (I assume we are talking about animals here) nuclear plant: coooool Microsoft: What is the price of a soul these days? land mine makers: US only Matt Gullett

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              • M Michael P Butler

                Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                Nish Nishant
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                I wouldnt work for religious fanatics. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                • M Michael P Butler

                  Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                  Todd C Wilson
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                  Any company that doesn't pay enough and/or has too much Dilbert-Factor involved. Other than that, I doubt any of us can afford to be choosy these days.


                  Visual Studio Favorites - www.nopcode.com/visualfav

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                    Any company that doesn't pay enough and/or has too much Dilbert-Factor involved. Other than that, I doubt any of us can afford to be choosy these days.


                    Visual Studio Favorites - www.nopcode.com/visualfav

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                    Nish Nishant
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                    Todd C. Wilson wrote: I doubt any of us can afford to be choosy these days Well, that sums it up for us I guess! Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                    • M Michael P Butler

                      Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                      Nemanja Trifunovic
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                      Michael P Butler wrote: Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc 1. A tobacco company. Yes with a few little bugs. :rolleyes: 2. A slaughterhouse. Why not? I'm not a vegetarian. 3. A nuclear plant. Yeah. Nuc plants are pretty safe these days. 4. Microsoft. Yes!!! I'm not an open-source fanatic. 5. Landmine makers. Hmmm. Hardly. I vote pro drink :beer:

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                        Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                        Jamie Hale
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                        Interesting question. Actually, I'm working for a nuke plant right now. I justify it because the project I'm working on is a safety inspection system - I figure that's good karma. And as it turns out, I have a feeling the next contract my employer will want me to work on is for the military. It's an immersive video system for tanks and troop carriers. I have a serious problem with this, in that I don't want to ever contribute to any war effort. It'll will be interesting to see if I'm going to have to choose between my morals and my job... :confused: J

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                          Huh? Why woudldn't you work for land-mine workers? That's what he asked? Or were you answering him in reverse? Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                          Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Why woudldn't you work for land-mine workers? He said "Land mine makers", My opinion is that land-mines have reached a new level of cruelty these days. Especialy the mass types that can be bombed onto countrysides. It is one thing to shoot a soldier, it is another to masacrre his family, but to slowly maim and destroy civilians over many years really disgusts me. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                          If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                            Nish [BusterBoy] wrote: Why woudldn't you work for land-mine workers? He said "Land mine makers", My opinion is that land-mines have reached a new level of cruelty these days. Especialy the mass types that can be bombed onto countrysides. It is one thing to shoot a soldier, it is another to masacrre his family, but to slowly maim and destroy civilians over many years really disgusts me. Regardz Colin J Davies

                            Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                            If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance, baffle 'em with your bullsh*t P J Arends 0 = ( ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) + (x-1)^2) * ( (x-1)^2 + ( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) ) - x^4 x != 0 0 = sqrt( x^2 - (x-1)^2 ) - 5

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                            Nish Nishant
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                            Colin Davies wrote: He said "Land mine makers", Oops! Sorry. It's 2:16 AM and I am kinda sleepy. I think I better go to sleep now. Good night Colin. Nish Sonork ID 100.9786 voidmain www.busterboy.org If you don't find me on CP, I'll be at Bob's HungOut

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                              Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                              I will work for anybody that is legal and can afford me. I have no scruples at all:) Tobacco Company: They are a perfectly legit business providing a legit product. Keep your sensibilities to yourself. Slaughterhouse: I like meat. I am not a vegan. I don't even think I like people that don't like meat. Where's the beef? Nuclear Plant: I think we need about three times as many plants as we have now. I live very close ( 25 miles or so )to one ( Glen Rose ) so I am not speaking hearsay. The best and safest form of energy production that we have at the present. Microsoft: Don't bite that hand that feeds you. I was actually offered a job there several years ago but did not want to relocate. Plus in my State there are no State income taxes and even though there was a increase in salary it would have been eaten up in taxes and a higher cost of living so I stayed here. Good descision. Now I work for myself and that would never have happened if I had relocated. Landmine maker; Damn right. Landmines are not the demons the are described to be. At least not the kind the US uses. There are countless soldiers that owe their lives to landmines. I belive in anything that lets us whack the bad guys without giving the bad guys a chance to whack us. If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. - Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar

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                                Interesting question. Actually, I'm working for a nuke plant right now. I justify it because the project I'm working on is a safety inspection system - I figure that's good karma. And as it turns out, I have a feeling the next contract my employer will want me to work on is for the military. It's an immersive video system for tanks and troop carriers. I have a serious problem with this, in that I don't want to ever contribute to any war effort. It'll will be interesting to see if I'm going to have to choose between my morals and my job... :confused: J

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                                Purely out of interest, don't your taxes already contribute to your country's war effort? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                                  Purely out of interest, don't your taxes already contribute to your country's war effort? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                                  Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                  David Wulff wrote: Purely out of interest, don't your taxes already contribute to your country's war effort? Hahaha, a good one. But he is not in a position to decide what his tax money will be spent for. I vote pro drink :beer:

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                                    Purely out of interest, don't your taxes already contribute to your country's war effort? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                                    Jamie Hale
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                                    Hard to say. I live in Canada, and so my taxes go mostly to subsidizing donut stores and propping up the dollar. As far as amounts go, I figure military contributions are not quite as high as to the little-known task force in charge of harvesting our own blood from captive black flies... J

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                                      Purely out of interest, don't your taxes already contribute to your country's war effort? ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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                                      And hey, if I had a choice, I'd definitely dole out my taxes to the places that need it. Like education, health care and environmental protection. J

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                                        Is there any kind of company you wouldn't work for ? Would you develop software for a tobacco company, a slaughterhouse, a nuclear plant, Microsoft, landmine makers etc Is there any job that you'd have to say no to because they were involved in something you didn't believe in? Michael :-)

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                                        I like the way you just slipped Microsoft inbetween a nucleay plant and landmine makers! Trying to tell us something, Michael? Onliy kidding... Tobacco company - sure. It's up to each individual if they decide to smoke. Saying no to this one on "moral grounds" would be like saying no to a car plant because cars can inflict damage to other people when used inconsiderately. Slaughterhouse - again, i'd have no problem with this. Meat is a necessary part of our lives, and the animals have to be killed at some point. In some ways I wish we didn't have to mass kill the animals 'cause it's not very nice to think about, but then again it happens in nature and in many worse ways. I could never partake in the actual process though - purely because I doubt I could stomache it. Nuclear plant - yes, why not? The methods in which nuclear powerstations generate electricity is the safest and cleanest we have ever designed. They don't build powerstations that can produce catastrophic events without adequate protiection, and if I could work on something as exciting as that, I would jump at the chance. Microsoft - it depends on what i'd be doing. If I was going to be a cubicle worked then no I would not, but if it was a position that was challenging and fun at the same time then again I would jump at the chance. Of course though, it would have to be with Microsoft UK... ;) Landmine makers - maybe. If the company was working to produce safer landmines (I mean like having mass remote detonation and radio tracking, etc, not ones that squirt foam), then I might. So, who wouldn't I work for? Well, there are two scenarios that spring to mind:- The military - I would not, ever, serve in the military unless conscripted, and then it would only be as either a non-combat, non-medic. I wouldn't class myself as being a CO (no, not commanding officer, but a conciensious objecter), but quite simply I doubt I could pull the trigger on another person for mainly non-moral reasons. Call me old fashioned, but I believe in the sanctity of life ("all life"). The "well they knew what they were getting into" argument is rubbish, as many people do not server their country's through choice. Manual labour - never, ever, ever. I understand that someone must do all the physically hard-work jobs in life, but it's not going to be me. I cannot work in or at something I do not enjoy. Some people don't have the ability to choose in life, and I feel for them, but at this risk of sounding prejudiced: some people are better s

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                                          And hey, if I had a choice, I'd definitely dole out my taxes to the places that need it. Like education, health care and environmental protection. J

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                                          That posses and interesting question for the future of federal taxes: should you be allowed to specify which fields you want the money to go to (assuming this is not already possible)? I suppose that would cause more problems than it'd solve though. ________________ David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk "I loathe people who keep dogs. They are cowards who haven't got the guts to bite people themselves" - August Strindberg

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