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  • L leppie

    Megan Forbes wrote:

    So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice?

    Forget about procrastination :p

    Megan Forbes wrote:

    The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this?

    No IIS :( Cassini works perfect though. So no issues there really :)

    Megan Forbes wrote:

    Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend?

    If you going with .NET 2.0, there is no reason not to use the Express products (not sure about commercial usage for them though, I know SQL Express has no limitation). There is of course xacc.ide, but thats more 'editor for anything' currently. SharpDevelop is also handy, but I am not sure about ASP.NET support (something rings a bell).

    Megan Forbes wrote:

    What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product?

    The SQL Server Management Studio Express (yes, thats the name) is a replacement for Enterprise Manager and Query Analyser. So basically MS has made it easy for anyone developing .NET 2.0 apps :) Now we just need to find more people to start coding!**

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    Awesome, thanks for all the info Leppie! I'll look into Cassini. I do actually have XP Pro on my old laptop, but as that's getting rather slow and I'll be developing on our new desktop I guess that only helps for a bit of extra testing. Those express IDE's look really great (busy downloading), and I guess MS has been wise releasing them if they want people to continue developing using their technologies. I for one am rather glad to find I don't have to go out and cross-train in PHP and MySQL :laugh:.


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      leppie wrote:

      Express products (not sure about commercial usage for them though

      Afaik, there are no limitations license wise, but there is no add-in support.

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      Bob X wrote:

      ...but there is no add-in support

      Long live CP :-D


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        Awesome, thanks for all the info Leppie! I'll look into Cassini. I do actually have XP Pro on my old laptop, but as that's getting rather slow and I'll be developing on our new desktop I guess that only helps for a bit of extra testing. Those express IDE's look really great (busy downloading), and I guess MS has been wise releasing them if they want people to continue developing using their technologies. I for one am rather glad to find I don't have to go out and cross-train in PHP and MySQL :laugh:.


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        David Stone
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        Just FYI, Visual Web Developer Express comes with Cassini built-in. So you don't have to look into it, per se, as that's what VWD is going to use unless you tell it to use IIS. :)

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        • M Megan Forbes

          Bob X wrote:

          ...but there is no add-in support

          Long live CP :-D


          A mum and loving it!

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          Bob X
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          Megan Forbes wrote:

          Long live CP

          :-D Nothing against what you said, but I meant you can't use software like this.[^]

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            Awesome, thanks for all the info Leppie! I'll look into Cassini. I do actually have XP Pro on my old laptop, but as that's getting rather slow and I'll be developing on our new desktop I guess that only helps for a bit of extra testing. Those express IDE's look really great (busy downloading), and I guess MS has been wise releasing them if they want people to continue developing using their technologies. I for one am rather glad to find I don't have to go out and cross-train in PHP and MySQL :laugh:.


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            Bob X
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            btw, You may find that some people say that there is a free clip art gallery in some of the Visual Studio's (like c++, c#), but if you only have the express versions, don't waste your time looking, you don't have it. (paid versions only)

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              Just FYI, Visual Web Developer Express comes with Cassini built-in. So you don't have to look into it, per se, as that's what VWD is going to use unless you tell it to use IIS. :)

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              leppie
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              UltrDev has a newer version on their site :) http://www.ultidev.com/products/Cassini/[^]**

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              • M Megan Forbes

                Awesome, thanks for all the info Leppie! I'll look into Cassini. I do actually have XP Pro on my old laptop, but as that's getting rather slow and I'll be developing on our new desktop I guess that only helps for a bit of extra testing. Those express IDE's look really great (busy downloading), and I guess MS has been wise releasing them if they want people to continue developing using their technologies. I for one am rather glad to find I don't have to go out and cross-train in PHP and MySQL :laugh:.


                A mum and loving it!

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                leppie
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                Megan Forbes wrote:

                I do actually have XP Pro on my old laptop, but as that's getting rather slow

                Would make a nice 'server' then, not sure how to enable remote IIS debugging, but thats the idea :)**

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                  leppie wrote:

                  Express products (not sure about commercial usage for them though

                  Afaik, there are no limitations license wise, but there is no add-in support.

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                  It's just pity that it doesnt support multiple project types, and hence the reason why I am still grinding on good ol' VS2003 :)**

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                  • M Megan Forbes

                    Hi all, As my son nears his first birthday I've been looking at work I can do from home. I've had an offer which is right up my street (ecommerce website dev), well, pretty much - I've not had too much to do with the design side of the sites I've worked on before but now I'll be delivering the whole package. So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice? For the first few weeks I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual (Mikey still has two feeds a night) as getting Mikey into daycare for a couple of mornings a week is proving a nightmare so I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess :). Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software. The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this? Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend? I've always been in the fortunate position to have my employers worry about this sort of thing before. What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product? Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules asking these questions on CP or offending anyone :).


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                    led mike
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                    I hated working from home. I found I worked way too much and too hard. I prefer to leave my work at the office and limit myself to 7 or 8 hours a day with the occasional long days when you have to carry management. To sum up, it was gay. :laugh: Anyway everyone is different so this may not be a problem for you. Just be cautious.

                    "What classes are you using ? You shouldn't call stuff if you have no idea what it does"
                    Christian Graus in the C# forum

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                    • M Megan Forbes

                      Hi all, As my son nears his first birthday I've been looking at work I can do from home. I've had an offer which is right up my street (ecommerce website dev), well, pretty much - I've not had too much to do with the design side of the sites I've worked on before but now I'll be delivering the whole package. So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice? For the first few weeks I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual (Mikey still has two feeds a night) as getting Mikey into daycare for a couple of mornings a week is proving a nightmare so I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess :). Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software. The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this? Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend? I've always been in the fortunate position to have my employers worry about this sort of thing before. What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product? Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules asking these questions on CP or offending anyone :).


                      A mum and loving it!

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                      Christian Graus
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                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home?

                      Yep. Two weeks now.

                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      Any great advice?

                      We're lucky - we have a big house. I have a room, which is my work room. Sadly, it's right by the kids bedrooms, so to tell the truth, I often have Calvin come in briefly in the morning, but generally the understood rule is that if the door is closed, if they can hear hard rock coming out of the room, they are to leave me alone. It also means that no matter what happens, my desk is as I left it, I have no morning set up time, and I'm not distracted as I would be if, for example, the office was a desk in the lounge room. So long as you're able to keep yourself going, I've actually found you get a lot MORE done working from home, in an office, people are always coming by to say g'day ( or some local variant ) and chat.

                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software.

                      Cool - where to ?

                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this?

                      I believe VS2005 has it's own web server built in, IIS was the main reason to want XP Pro.

                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend?

                      There is a web developer express and a C# express, they are free. There's also a VB Express, but that's a slippery path....

                      Megan Forbes wrote:

                      What about SQL Server?

                      SQL Server Express is free. SQL Server Dev Edition is pretty cheap, however. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ -- modified at 0:31 Friday 19th May, 2006 P.S. My word - you've moved to Australia !!! Where-abouts are you ?

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                        If you plan on doing ASP.NET work, be aware that there's no officially supported way to install IIS on XP Home. Regards, Nish


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                        Christian Graus
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                        But VS2005 has a built in web server, doesn't it ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                          But VS2005 has a built in web server, doesn't it ? Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                          Ryan Binns
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                          Correct.

                          Ryan

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                          • M Megan Forbes

                            Wow, awesome, thanks! I had no idea they even existed. It's like starting all over again - it's amazing how much one year with a baby can push out of your brain :sigh:.


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                            Super Lloyd
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                            There is #develop[^] as well...

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home?

                              Yep. Two weeks now.

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              Any great advice?

                              We're lucky - we have a big house. I have a room, which is my work room. Sadly, it's right by the kids bedrooms, so to tell the truth, I often have Calvin come in briefly in the morning, but generally the understood rule is that if the door is closed, if they can hear hard rock coming out of the room, they are to leave me alone. It also means that no matter what happens, my desk is as I left it, I have no morning set up time, and I'm not distracted as I would be if, for example, the office was a desk in the lounge room. So long as you're able to keep yourself going, I've actually found you get a lot MORE done working from home, in an office, people are always coming by to say g'day ( or some local variant ) and chat.

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software.

                              Cool - where to ?

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this?

                              I believe VS2005 has it's own web server built in, IIS was the main reason to want XP Pro.

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend?

                              There is a web developer express and a C# express, they are free. There's also a VB Express, but that's a slippery path....

                              Megan Forbes wrote:

                              What about SQL Server?

                              SQL Server Express is free. SQL Server Dev Edition is pretty cheap, however. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ -- modified at 0:31 Friday 19th May, 2006 P.S. My word - you've moved to Australia !!! Where-abouts are you ?

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                              Megan Forbes
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                              Hi Christian, Thanks for all the advice! We've moved to Brisbane, and loving it so far :cool:. The only VS edition I have is on my laptop, and actually belongs to my old employer in the UK, so I guess I can't use it for work here. I'm delighted to find out about all these express versions - might not be the best, but hopefully they'll get me through to when I can afford to purchase the real thing. It also means I can see how this sub-contracting goes. Might turn out these guys are a scam and I never get paid. I'd prefer to make that sort of mistake using free IDE's :).


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                                Hi all, As my son nears his first birthday I've been looking at work I can do from home. I've had an offer which is right up my street (ecommerce website dev), well, pretty much - I've not had too much to do with the design side of the sites I've worked on before but now I'll be delivering the whole package. So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice? For the first few weeks I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual (Mikey still has two feeds a night) as getting Mikey into daycare for a couple of mornings a week is proving a nightmare so I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess :). Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software. The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this? Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend? I've always been in the fortunate position to have my employers worry about this sort of thing before. What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product? Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules asking these questions on CP or offending anyone :).


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                                R Giskard Reventlov
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                                I've worked form home before and really enjoyed it. You need to be disciplined though. I found that the best approach for me was to get up early: that way I'd get a lot of work done prior to everyone else getting up and 'disturbing' me. As for IIS and XP Home: Snippets[^] and then select "Running IIS in Windows XP Home". Worked for me a while back when I got a machine with XP Home (mistake #1) and needed IIS. home
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                                  Hi Christian, Thanks for all the advice! We've moved to Brisbane, and loving it so far :cool:. The only VS edition I have is on my laptop, and actually belongs to my old employer in the UK, so I guess I can't use it for work here. I'm delighted to find out about all these express versions - might not be the best, but hopefully they'll get me through to when I can afford to purchase the real thing. It also means I can see how this sub-contracting goes. Might turn out these guys are a scam and I never get paid. I'd prefer to make that sort of mistake using free IDE's :).


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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  Megan Forbes wrote:

                                  Brisbane

                                  Right country, even if it's the wrong end. We're in Hobart. Give me a hoy if you're ever down this end of the world. What prompted the move ?

                                  Megan Forbes wrote:

                                  I'd prefer to make that sort of mistake using free IDE's .

                                  Yep, the big mistake many people make about being self employed is to start by spending a ton. Even early on, I only ever spent a fraction of what I was earning. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++

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                                    Hi Christian, Thanks for all the advice! We've moved to Brisbane, and loving it so far :cool:. The only VS edition I have is on my laptop, and actually belongs to my old employer in the UK, so I guess I can't use it for work here. I'm delighted to find out about all these express versions - might not be the best, but hopefully they'll get me through to when I can afford to purchase the real thing. It also means I can see how this sub-contracting goes. Might turn out these guys are a scam and I never get paid. I'd prefer to make that sort of mistake using free IDE's :).


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                                    hey, welcome to Bris-Vegas! nicko

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                                      I've worked form home before and really enjoyed it. You need to be disciplined though. I found that the best approach for me was to get up early: that way I'd get a lot of work done prior to everyone else getting up and 'disturbing' me. As for IIS and XP Home: Snippets[^] and then select "Running IIS in Windows XP Home". Worked for me a while back when I got a machine with XP Home (mistake #1) and needed IIS. home
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                                      leppie
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                                      From reading the 'article' its vey hacky, the author uses win2k IIS which is lower in version than XP Pro. Best bet is to go with Cassini, no hassles, same effect. :)**

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                                        Hi all, As my son nears his first birthday I've been looking at work I can do from home. I've had an offer which is right up my street (ecommerce website dev), well, pretty much - I've not had too much to do with the design side of the sites I've worked on before but now I'll be delivering the whole package. So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice? For the first few weeks I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual (Mikey still has two feeds a night) as getting Mikey into daycare for a couple of mornings a week is proving a nightmare so I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess :). Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software. The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this? Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend? I've always been in the fortunate position to have my employers worry about this sort of thing before. What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product? Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules asking these questions on CP or offending anyone :).


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                                        Tim Carmichael
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                                        As others have mentioned, there are the Express Editions of the Microsoft Products. As far as licensing and commercial use, I did read a post from Microsoft that said: the Express editions are licensed, but the license is free and any they CAN be used for commercial applications. Understanding that each of the products is limited it what it can do, if you can live with the limitations, by all means do so! For ASP work, I believe there is another Microsoft product, ASP.NET Web Matrix, that is free and may be of some help.

                                        Megan Forbes wrote:

                                        A mum and loving it!

                                        Wonderful... enjoy... and I LOVE the spelling of 'mum' (being from Canada, that is how I was taught to spell it). Best wishes, Tim

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                                          Hi all, As my son nears his first birthday I've been looking at work I can do from home. I've had an offer which is right up my street (ecommerce website dev), well, pretty much - I've not had too much to do with the design side of the sites I've worked on before but now I'll be delivering the whole package. So I'm just wondering, does anyone else here work from home? Any great advice? For the first few weeks I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual (Mikey still has two feeds a night) as getting Mikey into daycare for a couple of mornings a week is proving a nightmare so I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess :). Also, as we've just emigrated I don't have the capital for a lot of dev software. The pc we've bought came with XP home edition - is there any real reason (I don't mean irritations, I'll live with those) why I won't be able to get by with this? Also, are there any free .NET IDE's anyone can recommend? I've always been in the fortunate position to have my employers worry about this sort of thing before. What about SQL Server? Is it even legal to use a free SQL Server IDE when SQL Server is an MS product? Hopefully I'm not breaking any rules asking these questions on CP or offending anyone :).


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                                          Megan Forbes wrote:

                                          I'll probably be even more sleep deprived than usual

                                          It is very hard to do anything when you are tired let alone programming where tiredness will adversely affect your concentration.

                                          Megan Forbes wrote:

                                          I'll be burning the midnight oil I guess

                                          Not a good idea if you still need to feed your child 2 times a night.

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