Public smoking becomes illegal in Toronto starting tomorrow
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Having lost a Dad to cancer, have to say smoking is not one of the brighter moves. However, I don't think you really want the government behaving this invasively. It never ends. You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house, then someone will say, "but what about the other people in your house..." and then they'll be in there as well. Having said that, #1 beef with smokers - put your Da$$m butts in your ashtray, don't fling them out the window. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.
charlieg wrote:
You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house
Interesting thought - what about idiots who smoke around children? The children don't reasonably have the opportunity to escape the smoke (it's in their home) and they're probably even more affected than adults by 2nd hand smoke (developing lungs etc). Paul
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Good. A similar law comes into force in the UK next year (it's already law in Scotland). As someone who had to suffer second hand smoke from my family constantly when I was little, I'm all for it. I've walked out of places before now because of smoke (it which makes me cough badly, and I have enough difficulties with shortness of breath as it is, probably as a result to the exposure I suffered during my childhood) so it will be good to feel I can actually go into bars etc. again. Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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charlieg wrote:
You think you will be able to smoke in your car/house
Interesting thought - what about idiots who smoke around children? The children don't reasonably have the opportunity to escape the smoke (it's in their home) and they're probably even more affected than adults by 2nd hand smoke (developing lungs etc). Paul
I can speak from personal experience on that one. I'm certain the problems I have with breathlessness are closely linked to an almost continuous passive smoke exposure during childhood... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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I can speak from personal experience on that one. I'm certain the problems I have with breathlessness are closely linked to an almost continuous passive smoke exposure during childhood... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
It's a good point - and one that I am very sensitive too. But where I hesitate is when the *government* decides what is best for a child. Please, I am NOT advocating as a parental right that one should smoke around your children. Both of my parents were/are smokers, and it drove me crazy. What I am advocating is that a paternalistic government is a far greater threat to the child's freedoms than any brain-dead parent, myself included. Paranoid? Sure, I'm a crazy American. But, in American society, we can sue McDonald's for encouraging us to be overweight. Now, we have suggestions that parents should be held liable for not providing "proper" nutrition for their children. Interestingly, "proper" is determined by government and not common sense. Where does it end? I guess in summary, it really boils down to the parents being responsible and not the nanny state. Charlie Gilley Will program for food... Whoever said children were cheaper by the dozen... lied. My son's PDA is an M249 SAW.