All the Vista Bashing

Rama Krishna Vavilala

While I agree about everything else. I will have to disagree with UAC. The concept is great but the way it is implemented in this beta build does suck. I am sure that it will be sorted out. On my machine the screen turns black for sometime and then I am prompted with the Windows Security dialog. It was greatly annoying in the beginning when I was installing software. I had to disable UAC for sometime.

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code frog 0

I'm way with you David. Most people don't even realize they've hopped on a band-wagon. Wagon-bashing is the term I've coined for it. People don't understand that they have a choice. They don't have to use Vista and they should just make their choice and be quiet. Instead everyone has to be an expert especially with something they haven't used. So they register their opinions etc, etc, etc... It's cool to bash Microsoft right?:rolleyes:

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Beta? Right. It's a beta. Don't install it if you are going to bash stuff that's "In Beta". Right?:-D

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Chris Meech

Christopher Duncan wrote:

MS expects me to give them money for a new OS but offers little in the way of benefits

Christopher Duncan wrote:

because some yahoo of a programmer will require me to do

And Microsoft is singing yahoo all the way to the bank. :) Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] The America I believe in has always understood that natural harmony is only one meal away from monkey burgers. [Stan Shannon] GOOD DAY FOR: Bean counters, as the Australian Taxation Office said that prostitutes and strippers could claim tax deductions for adult toys and sexy lingerie. [Associated Press]

Somanova420

You still can rename the extension in explorer. It's just when you press F2 to rename, everything to the left of ".LastIndexOf(".")" is highlighted, therefore excluding the extension.

Dario Solera

David Stone wrote:

Because, in my experience, I wouldn't say that about anything in Vista.

Me too and, in fact, I'm using Vista almost everyday. ______________________________________ Tozzi is right: Gaia is getting rid of us. My Blog [ITA] and the ScrewTurn Software experiment

Nish Nishant

Somanova420 wrote:

You still can rename the extension in explorer. It's just when you press F2 to rename, everything to the left of ".LastIndexOf(".")" is highlighted, therefore excluding the extension.

Ah, I didn't see the "selection" part of it - sorry! :doh: Regards, Nish

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Christopher Duncan wrote:

Like XP before it, there is no compelling reason to upgrade to the new OS other than enhanced eye candy.

So when you buy cars, eye candy is a good enough reason, but not so for an OS, eh? Interesting! :rolleyes: I know your car's powerful, but it looks damn good too. Regards, Nish

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Varindir Rajesh Mahdihar

Instead everyone has to be an expert especially with something they haven't used I gave you a 5 for that. I'll bet you every MS basher makes there $$ on Microsoft. (then they'll say.. "oh but that's different..I'm a programmer i know everything). If they hate MS so much, go program on Linux or Mac's. Lets see how many people will be starving. :omg::wtf::omg:

Lost User

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realJSOP

Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

I know your car's powerful, but it looks damn good too.

I don't see the connection with Vista (neither powerful nor attractive).

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realJSOP

Crap is still crap - it doesn't matter what stage of its existance we're talking about...

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realJSOP

You're from Brazil - what do you know?

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David Stone wrote:

How many of you who are openly bashing on Vista have actually used it for any serious length of time?

Not i. I'm a huge sucker for eye candy, there's no way i could be objective if i actually installed it. Ohyeah, and i'm still waiting on a new machine. I suppose that could have something to do with it as well. :rolleyes:

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Christopher Duncan

Ah, the trusty Vette is an excellent case in point. I drive a 2004, which is the last year of the C5 series. When the C6 came out, I took it for a spin, seriously considering the upgrade. It had another 50 horsepower, but at this level you can't really feel that. Other than that, the selling features were eye candy. A new look (okay, but not compelling), and the addition of the touch screen interface for control of heating & a/c, OnStar, etc. In fact, the computer screen stuff is one of the new whiz bang things they really hype about the new model. To me, it's a downgrade. Why? I have a heads up display, and I can control my radio, heating & a/c, and everything else by feel without having to take my eyes off the road (handy when a curb is fast approaching at 58 mph :rolleyes:) When the computer screen boots on the C6, it first displays a blue "Please don't sue us" screen telling you not to operate it when the car is moving. Why? Because you can't do it by feel, you have to take your eyes off the road. (And this, by the way, controls your air conditioning in the summer.) So, other than the ego of having the latest & greatest, there are no compelling new features in the C6 beyond eye candy. Consequently, I didn't upgrade. Same principles. :-D And yeah, the C5 does look cool. :cool: However, I don't drive it to impress people. I drive it because it's big fun. :-D Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

Nish Nishant

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

I don't see the connection with Vista (neither powerful nor attractive).

Based on the screenshots I saw, I wouldn't say it's particularly attractive either, but everyone's who's got the Aero theme working says, it sorta starts looking good after a few minutes, and then you start to like it. Gotta try it one day I guess. Regards, Nish

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Christopher Duncan

When I was coding, I was a MS guy. Not because of "brand loyalty", but because that's where the gigs were. Macs are cool, but there isn't much work for them. You guys might be right about :baaaa!: jumping on bandwagons, but I ain't one of them. I'm quite capable of doing my own thinking. Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

Chris Meech

Mike Mullikin wrote:

Since a lightning strike toasted my main home PC (midway through my annual Linux trial) I'll be

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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

So when you buy cars, eye candy is a good enough reason

Um I am driving an all white 1997 Toyota Tacoma. Ok, I did splurg for the FM radio. It gets me from point a to point b. ;P "Yes I know the voices are not real. But they have some pretty good ideas."

Jim Crafton

As a general rule, I'd agree with you, but if someone puts a signifgantly stupid feature (or set of features) in a software product, then why not call them on it? Especially since it's a beta, where there's still a chance the goofy/stupid feature has a chance of getting fixed. In addition Microsoft is in a special place. They have vast financial and human resources. There's an expectation that if you hype your software as being the greatest thing since the wheel, that you had better damn well deliver, especially if you're a company like Microsoft where they have all the tools and people and expertise to do so. And when you see a whole slew of really silly, goofy UI glitches then I think it's perfectly fair for people to come down hard on them. While I haven't used Vista yet, I have been reading reviews of it for quite a while on Paul Thurrot's site, and some of the points he brings up are not pretty. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF!