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Having a life and programming,a oxymoron

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  • C Christian Graus

    Joao Vaz wrote: she likes to talk a lot in bed, IS that all ? You poor guy... Joao Vaz wrote: I'm f***ing missing all the endless night coding all night long Talk about that, send her to sleep, then get up again. TCL - yuck. Joao Vaz wrote: why can't I live a normal life without the need to break my f***ing head off ? You're not normal, you're a programmer. Live with it. I come home every night, play with my kids for an hour, then either get on the PC or go to bed with a programming book. We went on three weeks holiday - I learned the insides of iostreams. I don't think our families miss out that much. 'normal' people watch tv night after night and eat pretzels. If you're anything like me, you look to make *real* family time, and then go on to do some work. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little.

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    Christian Graus wrote: Talk about that, send her to sleep, then get up again Yeap, i see this is a common behaviour of a lot programmers out there :omg: I didn't get up of bed yet on the middle of the night, but it will happen someday ... Christian Graus wrote: You're not normal, you're a programmer Definitely a race apart ... Christian Graus wrote: make *real* family time, and then go on to do some work :omg: And your wife doesn't grumbles with you :omg: Christian Graus wrote: TCL - yuck i can't agree with you more :(( , 4 full months and more 4 to come X| Christian Graus wrote: I learned the insides of iostreams You readed the book "Standard C++ IOStreams and Locales: Advanced Programmer's Guide and Reference" ? Cheers, Joao Vaz

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    • D David Chamberlain

      I'll be happily married for 15 years this month, with two step-daughters both in their early/mid twenties. I think the key is just to keep balance. Right now, for you, you must balance work, wife, wife's school, and hobbies. If any one gets out of whack with the others ... problems, coming in any number of forms: wife is mad, boss is upset, personal frustration, etc. Like a three-legged stool, all the legs must have approximately equal lengths in order for the stool not to fall over. When one dominates the others, the stool falls. Keeping balance, of course, involves making choices, and those choices reflect your values and priorities. If you value your wife and your marriage and your partnership, then hiding away doing personal computer work all the time doesn't reflect that value. Maybe she'll be alright with a night or two each week, if the others are spent doing "home" things or being with her. Maybe early Saturday morning would be good, as she could be out shopping or doing something that is just for her. Of course, even with kids, it's still all about the balance that works for you and your priorities. Dave "You can say that again." -- Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

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      Dave , another very helpfull advice :-D Thank you for sharing your personal view of life, your analogy with the three-legged stool of approximately equal lengths was very good indeed :) Thank you again, Joao

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      • J Joao Vaz

        Tom, thank you very much for your advise :-D Tom Archer wrote: There's always another project to get done, another job to try and land. So you blow a deadline? Five years from now you'll scarcely remember the project. Learning this particular lesson cost me my first marriage. A wise advice from a wise person :) Tom , i'm very curious for Inside C# 2nd edition , i don't own the first, but the second appears to be much more appealing. The link http://www.thecodechannel.com/InsideCSharp2EdNotes.asp ,seriously denotes that the Tom Archer wrote: Now I'm not nearly as low-level as I used to be is a bit far away from the truth , especially the msil code at the end of each chapter ;P Back, on the serious side again thanks again, and best wishes of sucess to Inside C# 2nd :) Joao Vaz

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        >>>Tom, thank you very much for your advise You're very welcome. >>> ... the second appears to be much more appealing. The link http://www.thecodechannel.com/InsideCSharp2EdNotes.asp ,seriously denotes that the [Tom Archer wrote: Now I'm not nearly as low-level as I used to be] is a bit far away from the truth , especially the msil code at the end of each chapter <<< LOL! Ok. So I have completely thrown in the towel yet :) >>> Back, on the serious side again thanks again, and best wishes of sucess to Inside C# 2nd <<< Thanks much! I think that you'll see that all of MS Press' books (Richter's, Procise's, mine, etc.) have gone the more internals route. It's going to be interesting to see how this affects sales. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Best mini-putt score = 22

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          >>>Tom, thank you very much for your advise You're very welcome. >>> ... the second appears to be much more appealing. The link http://www.thecodechannel.com/InsideCSharp2EdNotes.asp ,seriously denotes that the [Tom Archer wrote: Now I'm not nearly as low-level as I used to be] is a bit far away from the truth , especially the msil code at the end of each chapter <<< LOL! Ok. So I have completely thrown in the towel yet :) >>> Back, on the serious side again thanks again, and best wishes of sucess to Inside C# 2nd <<< Thanks much! I think that you'll see that all of MS Press' books (Richter's, Procise's, mine, etc.) have gone the more internals route. It's going to be interesting to see how this affects sales. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Best mini-putt score = 22

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          Tom Archer wrote: internals route. It's going to be interesting to see how this affects sales. Tom, it's the best way to increase sales. To be a proficient programmer it helps a lot to know more about the internals of the technology IMHO. And programmers by nature are curious bests :laugh: So, the books sales, i'm positive, will increase, i known what i'm talking because i'll buy yours, I didn't buy the 1st , because of the lack of <> , i was just hoping that you would write a 2nd soon, so i could buy-it :) Cheers, Joao Vaz

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            Tom Archer wrote: internals route. It's going to be interesting to see how this affects sales. Tom, it's the best way to increase sales. To be a proficient programmer it helps a lot to know more about the internals of the technology IMHO. And programmers by nature are curious bests :laugh: So, the books sales, i'm positive, will increase, i known what i'm talking because i'll buy yours, I didn't buy the 1st , because of the lack of <> , i was just hoping that you would write a 2nd soon, so i could buy-it :) Cheers, Joao Vaz

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            >>>And programmers by nature are curious beasts :-D >>> i was just hoping that you would write a 2nd soon, so i could buy-it <<< Almost there. I've done all the chapters. The only thing remaining is a/r (author review) on 2 chapters and the front matter (intro, acknowledgements, etc.) Basically, it means I'll 100% on Monday which should put the book in the stores by May 1. By the way, I'm going to be posting a sample chapter here (split into 2 or 3 digestable chunks) in the next couple of weeks. In addition, Essam Ahmed will be doing a book review and posting it here as well. Cheers, Tom Archer Author, Inside C# Best mini-putt score = 22

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