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  • R RichardGrimmer

    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

    Does that make you a dinosaur next year?

    If, like me, you turn 30, the all I can tell you is that I FEEL like a dinosaur now - especially when some nubile young 21year old tries chatting me up :( "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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    Steve S
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    Ha! In your dreams, mate. (As I have an 18 year old daughter, who I made damn sure never met any of my co-workers, this is not a worry I have). If like me, you turned 40 a while back, it makes you want to slap those 30 year-olds. However, with age, comes wisdom and experience (sometimes!), and while I don't carry my years as well as I'd like, in C++ matters, I could leave you for dead in the dust :laugh: Having seen your 'apparently ... on a first date' posting a short while ago, you may also find that you welcome the introduction of national ID cards in the UK, if only to avoid that embarrassing feeling in the morning when you realise that your latest conquest is going to be late for school. Me, I prefer older women; generally speaking, they're more grateful :-O Steve S Developer for hire

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why. Intellisense is just screwed up for C++, and who came up with the new idiotic class view? I argue that a considerable amount of people in the vs2005 team should be fired! They also need to be slapped silly.

      -- In Hypno-Vision

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      Giles
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      Get yourself a copy of Visual Assist man!!!! Try it for a month and see. All better. Yes it should not have to be like this, but its always been like this. You get used to the class view, and in fact on large projects I much prefer it.

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        Get yourself a copy of Visual Assist man!!!! Try it for a month and see. All better. Yes it should not have to be like this, but its always been like this. You get used to the class view, and in fact on large projects I much prefer it.

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        I tried VA with 2003, but I found it full of other annoying bugs and quirks. Perhaps it's better now for 2005? I'll see if I can get the trial version.

        -- For proper viewing, take red pill now

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        • R RichardGrimmer

          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

          Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why

          Oh for FUCK'S SAKE - I'm getting SOOOO sick and fed up of you C++ dinosaurs pissing and whining about this - VS is a ".NET Development Environment" - and for C# / ASP.NET etc...etc.. it's just fine. Just accept that VC++ is a DEAD language and move into the 21st century - but most of all, if you're using the WRONG TOOLS FOR THE JOB (*which you are - VS6 rocked for CPP development!!!*) then stop moaning about it.... (Sounds of Rich running for cover.....:) ) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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          Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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          Oh that's funny. I'd love to see you write an inproc shell extension using a .NET language, then try to support it as your users start complaining over it breaking other components... ;P Use the right tool for the right job. Both Managed and Unmanaged languages have their niche, and no matter what you think of the fact, VS2005 supports native development. Ergo, it should do a decent job of it... Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.

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          • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

            Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why. Intellisense is just screwed up for C++, and who came up with the new idiotic class view? I argue that a considerable amount of people in the vs2005 team should be fired! They also need to be slapped silly.

            -- In Hypno-Vision

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            peterchen
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            Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

            They also need to be slapped silly.

            As I said before, what would that change ;)


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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              I tried VA with 2003, but I found it full of other annoying bugs and quirks. Perhaps it's better now for 2005? I'll see if I can get the trial version.

              -- For proper viewing, take red pill now

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              peterchen
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              Do It Do It Do It. VA always has some quirks, but they fix them quickly so you cand find the other ones. It's kind of fun.


              Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
              Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist

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              • R RichardGrimmer

                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why

                Oh for FUCK'S SAKE - I'm getting SOOOO sick and fed up of you C++ dinosaurs pissing and whining about this - VS is a ".NET Development Environment" - and for C# / ASP.NET etc...etc.. it's just fine. Just accept that VC++ is a DEAD language and move into the 21st century - but most of all, if you're using the WRONG TOOLS FOR THE JOB (*which you are - VS6 rocked for CPP development!!!*) then stop moaning about it.... (Sounds of Rich running for cover.....:) ) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                RichardGrimmer wrote:

                Just accept that VC++ is a DEAD language and move into the 21st century

                So, how does that shit that you're full of taste? :-D And why is C++ dead? Because it's native? If that's your reasoning, I think you need a reality check. .NET replaced VB's old market really. There are other markets ya know. In this place called the real world they do exist, just look at your car for one of many examples. Jeremy Falcon

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                  Do It Do It Do It. VA always has some quirks, but they fix them quickly so you cand find the other ones. It's kind of fun.


                  Some of us walk the memory lane, others plummet into a rabbit hole
                  Tree in C# || Fold With Us! || sighist

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                  David Wulff
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                  When the VS.NET 2003 version of VA first came out, I had the rather unfortunate situation where VA would randomly crop off the bottom of my C# files. That quirk was defiantely not fun. Since then though it's largely been good - I have been using VA for years and wouldn't be without it.


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                  • R RichardGrimmer

                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                    Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why

                    Oh for FUCK'S SAKE - I'm getting SOOOO sick and fed up of you C++ dinosaurs pissing and whining about this - VS is a ".NET Development Environment" - and for C# / ASP.NET etc...etc.. it's just fine. Just accept that VC++ is a DEAD language and move into the 21st century - but most of all, if you're using the WRONG TOOLS FOR THE JOB (*which you are - VS6 rocked for CPP development!!!*) then stop moaning about it.... (Sounds of Rich running for cover.....:) ) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                    Lost User
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                    Riiiight ... which is why my desktop is littered with .NET apps yes? :D :D :D

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                    • R RichardGrimmer

                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                      Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why

                      Oh for FUCK'S SAKE - I'm getting SOOOO sick and fed up of you C++ dinosaurs pissing and whining about this - VS is a ".NET Development Environment" - and for C# / ASP.NET etc...etc.. it's just fine. Just accept that VC++ is a DEAD language and move into the 21st century - but most of all, if you're using the WRONG TOOLS FOR THE JOB (*which you are - VS6 rocked for CPP development!!!*) then stop moaning about it.... (Sounds of Rich running for cover.....:) ) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                      Stephen Hewitt
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                      This C++ dinosaur would tear your silly managed head off for your insolence and then leave the mess behind to be garbage collected. Steve

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        Why not!? Use VS2005 for anything but .NET crap, and you'll know why. Intellisense is just screwed up for C++, and who came up with the new idiotic class view? I argue that a considerable amount of people in the vs2005 team should be fired! They also need to be slapped silly.

                        -- In Hypno-Vision

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                        Tim Craig
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                        C++ has been the poor stepchild at Microsoft for a long time. First, it was VB getting first support for new technology. Not only first support but support that made using new technoloby easy while C++ developers had to jump through hoops. Now, they've added the new darling C#. Microsoft saw Sun making inroads into the C++ community with a proprietary language and they just had to do it, too. The evolution of the human genome is too important to be left to chance.

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                        • S Steve S

                          Ha! In your dreams, mate. (As I have an 18 year old daughter, who I made damn sure never met any of my co-workers, this is not a worry I have). If like me, you turned 40 a while back, it makes you want to slap those 30 year-olds. However, with age, comes wisdom and experience (sometimes!), and while I don't carry my years as well as I'd like, in C++ matters, I could leave you for dead in the dust :laugh: Having seen your 'apparently ... on a first date' posting a short while ago, you may also find that you welcome the introduction of national ID cards in the UK, if only to avoid that embarrassing feeling in the morning when you realise that your latest conquest is going to be late for school. Me, I prefer older women; generally speaking, they're more grateful :-O Steve S Developer for hire

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                          RichardGrimmer
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                          Steve S wrote:

                          if only to avoid that embarrassing feeling in the morning when you realise that your latest conquest is going to be late for school.

                          Well THAT'S a little nasty Steve don't you think? As it happens, THAT one was almost as old as you! Well OK - 35, so not quite ;) Oh - and ex gf was 21 - so in my dreams huh? But then she is an EX now hehe!

                          "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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