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    Semion_N
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    Does anyone know an algorithm that recieves an unknown amount of numbers(it stops when it recieves -1) and calculates how many of them are above the average without using an array, list, vector, stack, file ect.? Is it even possible?

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      Does anyone know an algorithm that recieves an unknown amount of numbers(it stops when it recieves -1) and calculates how many of them are above the average without using an array, list, vector, stack, file ect.? Is it even possible?

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      Chris Losinger
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      i'd say "no, not possible".

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        Does anyone know an algorithm that recieves an unknown amount of numbers(it stops when it recieves -1) and calculates how many of them are above the average without using an array, list, vector, stack, file ect.? Is it even possible?

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        while number received != -1
        store the number
        end while
        calculate the average
        iterate through the array constructed below
        if number in the iteration is above the average
        increment counter
        end if
        end iterations

        but the question is, WHY don't you want to use the STL ?? managing your own memory with such growing arrays are not good things to do by yourself...


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          while number received != -1
          store the number
          end while
          calculate the average
          iterate through the array constructed below
          if number in the iteration is above the average
          increment counter
          end if
          end iterations

          but the question is, WHY don't you want to use the STL ?? managing your own memory with such growing arrays are not good things to do by yourself...


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          toxcct wrote:

          iterate through the array

          you can't use arrays

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            toxcct wrote:

            iterate through the array

            you can't use arrays

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            it was a pseudo code...


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              it was a pseudo code...


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              why does that matter? the original post said "no arrays".

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                why does that matter? the original post said "no arrays".

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                because even if "iterate" is not the correct word, he can still traverse the array he'd have built...


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                  because even if "iterate" is not the correct word, he can still traverse the array he'd have built...


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                  he said 'no arrays' which I think means no arrays not iterators

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                    he said 'no arrays' which I think means no arrays not iterators

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                    :~ sorry, don't get you...


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                      while number received != -1
                      store the number
                      end while
                      calculate the average
                      iterate through the array constructed below
                      if number in the iteration is above the average
                      increment counter
                      end if
                      end iterations

                      but the question is, WHY don't you want to use the STL ?? managing your own memory with such growing arrays are not good things to do by yourself...


                      TOXCCT >>> GEII power

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                      toxcct wrote:

                      store the number

                      To what?


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                        :~ sorry, don't get you...


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                        Semion_N
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                        You just can't use arrays! You have no array at the beggining, the user writes for you the input number by number-NO ARRAYS!

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                          toxcct wrote:

                          store the number

                          To what?


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                          to the paper next to the keyboard...


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                            Does anyone know an algorithm that recieves an unknown amount of numbers(it stops when it recieves -1) and calculates how many of them are above the average without using an array, list, vector, stack, file ect.? Is it even possible?

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                            David Crow
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                            While you can certainly compute the average without any additional storage, you'd still need to be able to go back through the set of numbers to pick out those greater than the average. Just for our edificaton, why the restriction? Is this your post, too?


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                              You just can't use arrays! You have no array at the beggining, the user writes for you the input number by number-NO ARRAYS!

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                              WTF !! even if you had a console program, by which the user typed all the values in a single line, you could still create an array (or an STL container), parse the string to extract the values, and store them then... if you don't explain your problem exactly, how can we guess what you're doing ? :confused:


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                                WTF !! even if you had a console program, by which the user typed all the values in a single line, you could still create an array (or an STL container), parse the string to extract the values, and store them then... if you don't explain your problem exactly, how can we guess what you're doing ? :confused:


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                                the problem says that you mustn't use arrays or other allocation of memory.

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                                  to the paper next to the keyboard...


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                                  That'll work! It satisfies the requirements of not using a list, array, etc. :-D


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                                    the problem says that you mustn't use arrays or other allocation of memory.

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                                    then, no chance to resolve it ;P


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                                      Does anyone know an algorithm that recieves an unknown amount of numbers(it stops when it recieves -1) and calculates how many of them are above the average without using an array, list, vector, stack, file ect.? Is it even possible?

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                                      So what kind of storage are you allowed to use?

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                                        So what kind of storage are you allowed to use?

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                                        Semion_N
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                                        just variables. int, float,char..

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                                          then, no chance to resolve it ;P


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                                          You say that there is no chanse to resolve it so can you prove it mathematiclly?

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